(Yesterday, 8:28 pm)L469 YVK wrote True - but why has NECA not been positively engaging with all parties concerned to prevent this from happening?

And I don't get how the timetables are still quite closely aligned.

Only losers are going to be the public unfortunately.

I'm still very surprised Arriva haven't taken advantage of BSIP like GNE & Stagecoach did for the 56, 21 and 1.....unless they're waiting for more new buses to turn up to prevent a s***show at the detriment of the wider operation perhaps.

Who's to say they haven't been?  Sounds like a unilateral decision, I struggle to see what Arriva or NECA have done wrong here unless there's more happened behind the scenes.

Agree though that the public are the overall losers in this.

(6 hours ago)Chris 1 wrote Who's to say they haven't been?  Sounds like a unilateral decision, I struggle to see what Arriva or NECA have done wrong here unless there's more happened behind the scenes.

Agree though that the public are the overall losers in this.

Unless GNE are making money in their strongholds and decided they don't need the partnership as such?

Not going to lie but most times I've travelled through High Farm on both the 307 & 309, theu do always pick up well and quite often tend to run late doing so.

L469 YVK
Unless GNE are making money in their strongholds and decided they don't need the partnership as such?

Not going to lie but most times I've travelled through High Farm on both the 307 & 309, theu do always pick up well and quite often tend to run late doing so.


Go North East wanted to reduce the frequency of their services to some extent. That’s why they withdrew

(8 hours ago)Ambassador wrote I'm not sure where the idea the 21 carries fresh air past certain points is coming from - it absolutely doesn't - and as much as we deride it, BSIP required strong and factual business cases with relevant data.
 
On a weekend especially, the service is regularly full by the time it departs Birtley - agree additional resource for Low Fell in this case - perhaps running a short 21 to Angel and turning at Eighton Lodge would solve this. 

As much as I question GNE, it feels a convenient and lazy stick to beat them with.

Oh no arguments definitely don't think it carries fresh air, that's just silly, but does it need to be 7.5 minutes all the way to CLS I'm unsure.

Tbh when I posted that I was thinking more deviating at Birtley, and doing something different. 

I'm sure there's loads of ideas but considering there's subsidised routes in all directions (25/28/81) could it maybe have been an option to sort one of, or even more out, since the tax payer is paying for it anyway. 

If anything it was a dig at Nexus for not using it as an opportunity to deal with some of the existing routes.

The 43/44/45 to North of Newcastle is a similar route and that's what that does really.