PB0002404/46 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Wallsend and Forest Hall given service number 18 effective from 24-Mar-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/47 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between City Centre and City Centre given service number 32/32A effective from 24-Mar-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002404/280 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between City Centre and Red House Farm given service number 35 effective from 24-Mar-2014. To amend Timetable.

Does anyone know if the 16 goes past Red House academy School?

Need to be their tomorrow and not sure

(07 Mar 2014, 7:24 pm)Michael wrote Does anyone know if the 16 goes past Red House academy School?

Need to be their tomorrow and not sure

I believe it does, yes.

(07 Mar 2014, 7:27 pm)Dan wrote I believe it does, yes.

Thank's i have to be their for 8:30am tomorrow, i think iv'e got the 16 their before.

Springwell to Red House my first full or near full run of the route on the gas buses!

(07 Mar 2014, 7:24 pm)Michael wrote Does anyone know if the 16 goes past Red House academy School?

Need to be their tomorrow and not sure

Yea stops outside.

(07 Mar 2014, 7:38 pm)aureolin wrote Yea stops outside.

=D, even better, not familiar with Red House.

(07 Mar 2014, 7:46 pm)Michael wrote =D, even better, not familiar with Red House.

Stab vest is recommended.

Does anyone know if south shields is getting any of the mans from sunderland that are standing in the yard. Regards Robin

(07 Mar 2014, 9:22 pm)Robinwtait.19 wrote Does anyone know if south shields is getting any of the mans from sunderland that are standing in the yard. Regards Robin

They aren't. I think a few others have answered this question over the past few days when you've asked, Robin!

Thanks Dan For Info. Regards Robin

(07 Mar 2014, 9:22 pm)Robinwtait.19 wrote Does anyone know if south shields is getting any of the mans from sunderland that are standing in the yard. Regards Robin

I herd South Shields were getting most of them for the E1/E2/E6 so that the current E300s could go to Hartlepool for services 3/4/6/7

Haha im joking! Why on earth would Shields get tatty old T reg non-DDA MANs when they currently have quite a resonable fleet of newish DDA compliant buses.

The second MAN to move to Stockton is 22453.

Volvo B10BLE 21104 was picked up from Stockton yesterday and taken to its new home in preservation in the North West.

Does anyone know when last 4 dennis trident from hull are due for stockton

22495 is 3rd man to transfer to Stockton seen on 12 today

Are sunderland mans coming to replace our buses like our old mans from stockton

Dan. Wye is Stockton getting mans and south shields misses out all together. we must be getting something maybe one or two at least. Regards Robin

I don't why we are getting sunderland mans we don't need them in stockton we need new buses not the old mans.

(08 Mar 2014, 9:28 pm)glen123 wrote I don't why we are getting sunderland mans we don't need them in stockton we need new buses not the old mans.

But they're replacing ALX300s which are in a worse condition... That's precisely why Shields aren't getting any! Minus the two reserve ALX200s, Shields is fully DDA compliant.

It's a temporary measure and they will be replaced at the end of the year anyway...

(08 Mar 2014, 9:13 pm)Robinwtait.19 wrote Dan. Wye is Stockton getting mans and south shields misses out all together. we must be getting something maybe one or two at least. Regards Robin

Why would Shields want them? 15 year old buses when their average fleet age is probably in the mid-00's at present?

EDIT: 2008 in fact.

(08 Mar 2014, 9:28 pm)glen123 wrote I don't why we are getting sunderland mans we don't need them in stockton we need new buses not the old mans.

These MANs are replacing examples in worse conditions (22198/9 the first 2 replaced) and, as said elsewhere, are only a short-term measure and will be replaced later this year.

And it's not just Stockton getting MANs, 22214 has been reported at Slatyford.

Thank for that

(08 Mar 2014, 9:47 pm)Kuyoyo wrote These MANs are replacing examples in worse conditions (22198/9 the first 2 replaced) and, as said elsewhere, are only a short-term measure and will be replaced later this year.

And it's not just Stockton getting MANs, 22214 has been reported at Slatyford.

22198 hasn't been replaced. Was on 13 yesterday (as was 22453).

(09 Mar 2014, 8:18 am)Roland Pratt wrote 22198 hasn't been replaced. Was on 13 yesterday (as was 22453).

22198 has been "formally" recorded on the latest Fleet Card as Stockton to Reserve together with 22199.

However, my interpretation of Reserve means that it can be reinstated if required. Could it be that one of the 211xx vehicles has been sent from Stockton back to Busways to replace fire damaged 21153. And 22198 has in turn been reinstated to replace that or simply that they are perhaps just a bit short of buses at Stockton at the moment.

There are all sorts of reasons.

Looks like Stagecoach were not a fan of the gas E300s on the Sunday service 3, as it is back to E200s this week with 36090,36968 been seen on there so far today.

(09 Mar 2014, 9:46 am)dans_bus_photos wrote Looks like Stagecoach were not a fan of the gas E300s on the Sunday service 3, as it is back to E200s this week with 36090,36968 been seen on there so far today.

XD they have to a fan of them, the service 3 is allocated them from May

(09 Mar 2014, 10:09 am)Michael wrote XD they have to a fan of them, the service 3 is allocated them from May

I meant the Sunday service! Obviously does not justify e300s

(09 Mar 2014, 10:35 am)dans_bus_photos wrote I meant the Sunday service! Obviously does not justify e300s

, wonder where they are today then... 16 and 20 defiantly but wonder if they have them on the 4,5A,23.. i'll keep a check on the 5A/23 when it passes my house

Edit: normal working on the 10:44am 23 - which is running a couple mins late

(09 Mar 2014, 8:40 am)Richard Smiles wrote 22198 has been "formally" recorded on the latest Fleet Card as Stockton to Reserve together with 22199.

However, my interpretation of Reserve means that it can be reinstated if required. Could it be that one of the 211xx vehicles has been sent from Stockton back to Busways to replace fire damaged 21153. And 22198 has in turn been reinstated to replace that or simply that they are perhaps just a bit short of buses at Stockton at the moment.

There are all sorts of reasons.

All three 211xx were still in service at Stockton on Thursday. Maybe one of the new arrivals is covering for 24113.

(09 Mar 2014, 10:35 am)dans_bus_photos wrote I meant the Sunday service! Obviously does not justify e300s

Regardless of the day of the week, service 3 will be allocated the gas buses come May - so whatever the reason for not allocating them today, they'll have to get used to allocating them again in two months' time.

Why would the Sunday operation not 'justify' the allocation of a vehicle which is likely to have cheaper running costs? I do hope 'passenger numbers' isn't going to be the argument, because they were rammed last week in the North section of Sunderland.

There were some issues with time-keeping which I noticed, but nothing major and if they keep to time on services 16/20 (which the majority of services have from what I've seen, esp. service 20 which has been managing to complete the route in even less time than it previously did), I can't see this being a recurring issue.