North East Buses

MX55WCZ now with The Eden.

(30 Oct 2019, 2:31 pm)S830OFT wrote [ -> ]MX55WCZ now with The Eden.

been with Eden since the summer

MX08DFY now with The Eden still retaining SB Travel logos on one side...

Due to a number of buses being off the road Scarlet Band have at least two Solo SRs on loan atm, YJ62FAM & KX15BHJ

YJ62FAM was on 99 yesterday: https://flic.kr/p/2hWekgp

The Hartlepool service coming off 5th Jan

(20 Dec 2019, 3:18 pm)Cock Robin wrote [ -> ]The Hartlepool service coming off 5th Jan

SB also looking for someone to take over the 35A Evening Service.


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Scarlet band wanting to give up a lot of services but they do want to keep the Park&Ride i'm not allowed to say to much but they want to make company bit smaller in fleet size and service size

(20 Dec 2019, 8:55 pm)Jimbo wrote [ -> ]Scarlet band wanting to give up a lot of services but they do want to keep the Park&Ride i'm not allowed to say to much but they want to make company bit smaller in fleet size and service size

I understand that they only want to be become a daytime service provider, based around the Park & Ride service.
DCC have told me which services that they want to give up to become the leaner operator, however I’m not allowed to divulge.


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I'm guessing they're hitting the same issue that eyms had with subsidised services no longer being viable for them.

(20 Dec 2019, 11:37 pm)BusLoverMum wrote [ -> ]I'm guessing they're hitting the same issue that eyms had with subsidised services no longer being viable for them.

SB had the 58 removed because they had driver shortages and have had a lack of serviceable buses, over the past few months.
They asked DCC to find another operator, according to DCC Arriva have been after the 58 for quite a while.


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(20 Dec 2019, 9:24 pm)2bagstew wrote [ -> ]I understand that they only want to be become a daytime service provider, based around the Park & Ride service.
DCC have told me which services that they want to give up to become the leaner operator, however I’m not allowed to divulge.


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you are correct also their is other stuff going on which can't be talked about

(20 Dec 2019, 11:37 pm)BusLoverMum wrote [ -> ]I'm guessing they're hitting the same issue that eyms had with subsidised services no longer being viable for them.

Wonder if they don't have the funds to replace a considerable amount of the fleet as some of the Solo's are about to be over the 15 year age limit on DCC contracts (think there's 6 that need to be replaced in 2020 then 7* in 2021 plus MX56NME in 2022), it's a canny lot to replace in one go which won't be cheap.

* 3 pink Solos for 16 & S1 discounted from equation due to not needing to meet age restrictions.

They are being very presumptuous assuming they are going to win the park and ride back given its a tendered service. I think it's up for renewal soon unless scarlet band have won it already. be surprised as the service is a shambles under them. Buses are tatty and poor For their age, many of the drivers have no customer service skills and the service is now totally unreliable. About time for someone else to run it.

(21 Dec 2019, 9:39 pm)123456 wrote [ -> ]They are being very presumptuous assuming they are going to win the park and ride back given its a tendered service. I think it's up for renewal soon unless scarlet band have won it already. be surprised as the service is a shambles under them. Buses are tatty  and poor For their age, many of the drivers have no customer service skills and the service is now totally unreliable. About  time for someone else to run it.

I'm almost certain that the Durham P&R contract was for 5 years, plus a 2 year extension. It started on 27th October 2014, so might not be up for renewal till October 2021.

It was a 1 year extension of both sides agreed.

Shame. Not sure about them putting all their eggs in one basket though, giving up other stuff. If they end up losing the Park and Ride they could end up with nothing left!

Cancellation now showing for service 58 on VOSA but I also found this whilst looking on there...

Registration number: PB1111930/37
Licence Number: PB1111930
Variation number: 0
Status: New
Service number.: 57X,
Service type: Normal Stopping
Start point: Hutton Henry
Finish point: Durham Bus Station
Via
Date received: 24 Dec 2019
Effective date: 05 Jan 2020
End date
Supported by subsidies?: Yes

(29 Dec 2019, 1:17 am)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Cancellation now showing for service 58 on VOSA but I also found this whilst looking on there...

Registration number: PB1111930/37
Licence Number: PB1111930
Variation number: 0
Status: New
Service number.: 57X,
Service type: Normal Stopping
Start point: Hutton Henry
Finish point: Durham Bus Station
Via
Date received: 24 Dec 2019
Effective date: 05 Jan 2020
End date
Supported by subsidies?: Yes

Yes it’s the replacement for the faster 58 extra bus that used start at Station Town for the college service.
SB will run it until Arriva have the capacity.


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Scarlet Band have acquired ex Go North East Solos 710-714, at least two of which are already in service still with Metrocentre Mini branding intact, former 711 / WK59CWW was on the 52 today: https://flic.kr/p/2ijQ6Wo

(25 Jan 2020, 7:28 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Scarlet Band have acquired ex Go North East Solos 710-714, at least two of which are already in service still with Metrocentre Mini branding intact, former 711 / WK59CWW was on the 52 today: https://flic.kr/p/2ijQ6Wo

I wonder how many people will try and board with a GNE ticket, even though they've removed all GNE logos.

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(26 Jan 2020, 10:59 am)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]I wonder how many people will try and board with a GNE ticket, even though they've removed all GNE logos.

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One was in use on Service 88 on frid but it was too far away to get any detail

(26 Jan 2020, 10:59 am)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]I wonder how many people will try and board with a GNE ticket, even though they've removed all GNE logos.

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Shouldn't happen really although in this instance the odds may increase as a result of the bus displaying the wrong destination although I think this journey does actually run via Langley Park, it's actually the 52 to East Hedleyhope.

(26 Jan 2020, 11:52 am)upt50k wrote [ -> ]One was in use on Service 88 on frid but it was too far away to get any detail

WK59CWU (former 710) was on the 52/725 on Friday.

(25 Jan 2020, 7:28 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Scarlet Band have acquired ex Go North East Solos 710-714, at least two of which are already in service still with Metrocentre Mini branding intact, former 711 / WK59CWW was on the 52 today: https://flic.kr/p/2ijQ6Wo

Wow. That looks awful.

Are SB struggling for buses at the moment?

(26 Jan 2020, 5:18 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]Wow. That looks awful.

Are SB struggling for buses at the moment?

SB need to replace 7 buses to keep within the DCC age limit.
To make it easier the 58 was transferred to Arriva a month earlier than was anticipated.


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Scarlet Band WK59 CWU by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Scarlet Band logo has been added to WK59 CWU

(29 Jan 2020, 6:21 pm)TEN 6083 wrote [ -> ]Scarlet Band WK59 CWU by kieron mathews, on Flickr

Scarlet Band logo has been added to WK59 CWU

Shame they haven't found a cloth for it too!

(29 Jan 2020, 6:29 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]Shame they haven't found a cloth for it too!

You seen the state of the X1 B9's? Awful.
Ditto the 128 I saw in Helmsley earlier. Caked in muck and not too dissimilar to these SB Solos.

Scarlet Band have been called to attend a Public Inquiry.

Public Inquiry (81339) to be held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane,
LEEDS, on 1 April 2020 commencing at 10:00
PB1111930 SN
SCARLET BAND BUS & COACH LTD
Director(s): GRAEME TORRANCE
WELFARE GARAGE, STATION ROAD, WEST CORNFORTH, FERRYHILL, DL17 9LA
S17 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 17 (The Public Passenger
Vehicles Act 1981)
S28 - Consideration of disciplinary action under Section 28 (The Transport Act 1985)

TM Public Inquiry (Case ID: 426356, Public Inquiry ID: 91465) for GRAEME HOPKINS
TORRANCE to be held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS,
on 1 April 2020 commencing at 10:00
Article 6 of Regulation (EC) No 1071/2009
Schedule 3

Former Go North East Optare Solo WK59 CWX has now been treated to a partial repaint - photo below shared by Dylan Irving on the Busesnortheast Facebook group:

Seen one of the Durham council park and ride buses running a service at Quebec earlier (the route number was 3 digits?)