Politics (and other political stuff)
Politics (and other political stuff)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politic...s-of-buses
Mind blown!
https://twitter.com/BBCArchive/status/11...10688?s=09
A brilliant 10mins of life in Sunderland in 1979.
A state of hopelessness - 2 more orders lined up at the yards and little chance of employment for the guys they followed round.
Some vintage shots of Sunderland and a bus or two, too!
https://twitter.com/BBCArchive/status/11...10688?s=09
A brilliant 10mins of life in Sunderland in 1979.
A state of hopelessness - 2 more orders lined up at the yards and little chance of employment for the guys they followed round.
Some vintage shots of Sunderland and a bus or two, too!
The result of the Labour leadership vote is due next Saturday. It is easy to forget that such a vote is even happening.
I wonder whether Keir (or Rebecca or Lisa) will even want to make many Shadow Cabinet changes at this stage. Maybe merely appoint successors to John McDonnell, Diane Abbott and whoever else stands down but make few if any other changes.
(28 Mar 2020, 12:46 pm)Metroline1511 The result of the Labour leadership vote is due next Saturday. It is easy to forget that such a vote is even happening.
I wonder whether Keir (or Rebecca or Lisa) will even want to make many Shadow Cabinet changes at this stage. Maybe merely appoint successors to John McDonnell, Diane Abbott and whoever else stands down but make few if any other changes.
(28 Mar 2020, 12:46 pm)Metroline1511 The result of the Labour leadership vote is due next Saturday. It is easy to forget that such a vote is even happening.
I wonder whether Keir (or Rebecca or Lisa) will even want to make many Shadow Cabinet changes at this stage. Maybe merely appoint successors to John McDonnell, Diane Abbott and whoever else stands down but make few if any other changes.
(31 Mar 2020, 11:37 pm)solsburian I think some shuffling is inevitable. I do hope Keir gets it, he is probably the most moderate of the lot, though I do feel he will be a caretaker leader as I don't think Labour will win the next general election after our jolly to the hard left put so many people off. i went to the leadership hustings in Durham and I was infuriated by Long-Baily endlessly harping on that the polices announced at the last GE were still right.
My main worry though is Momentum, they have been infiltrated by the right (including my ex) with the sole purpose of causing as much harm to the party as possible and ensure they remain unelectable. Without that going on, Momentum is already pure poison.
(31 Mar 2020, 11:37 pm)solsburian I think some shuffling is inevitable. I do hope Keir gets it, he is probably the most moderate of the lot, though I do feel he will be a caretaker leader as I don't think Labour will win the next general election after our jolly to the hard left put so many people off. i went to the leadership hustings in Durham and I was infuriated by Long-Baily endlessly harping on that the polices announced at the last GE were still right.
My main worry though is Momentum, they have been infiltrated by the right (including my ex) with the sole purpose of causing as much harm to the party as possible and ensure they remain unelectable. Without that going on, Momentum is already pure poison.
(11 Apr 2020, 6:04 pm)Metroline1511 The full line-up of shadow ministers, including those at a junior level, is listed here
https://labour.org.uk/people/shadow-cabinet/
(11 Apr 2020, 6:04 pm)Metroline1511 The full line-up of shadow ministers, including those at a junior level, is listed here
https://labour.org.uk/people/shadow-cabinet/
(15 Apr 2020, 5:40 pm)solsburian Glad he won! Some of my faith in the party has been restored.
(15 Apr 2020, 5:40 pm)solsburian Glad he won! Some of my faith in the party has been restored.
(16 Apr 2020, 11:57 am)streetdeckfan As you can probably tell by some of my other posts, I'm not a particular supporter of the Labour Party, but hopefully in the next election there might be a bit more competition!
(16 Apr 2020, 11:57 am)streetdeckfan As you can probably tell by some of my other posts, I'm not a particular supporter of the Labour Party, but hopefully in the next election there might be a bit more competition!
(30 Apr 2020, 2:40 pm)solsburian When Corbyn got the leadership I was going out with a member of Conservatives. While mine and their different political viewpoints was the source of friendly banter, they did make a good point; a good government needs effective opposition to keep it in check, and we wouldn't get that with Corbyn. They were absolutely right of course.
It is unlikely we will win the next general election, and I'm doubting we will regain many seats, though hopefully it will be a start of getting Labour back on track to being an effective opposition and a more palatable party to the general public.
(30 Apr 2020, 2:40 pm)solsburian When Corbyn got the leadership I was going out with a member of Conservatives. While mine and their different political viewpoints was the source of friendly banter, they did make a good point; a good government needs effective opposition to keep it in check, and we wouldn't get that with Corbyn. They were absolutely right of course.
It is unlikely we will win the next general election, and I'm doubting we will regain many seats, though hopefully it will be a start of getting Labour back on track to being an effective opposition and a more palatable party to the general public.
It wasn't because they liked Boris - it was an election won and lost on Brexit, with unfortunately many of what we'd consider 'core' Labour voters, feeling let down and disenfranchised with the Party's position on Brexit. It was an awful position; cobbled together to try and suit as many different groupings as possible, rather than having a simple (and democratic) policy. The leader not firmly committing one way or the other wasn't helpful either.
It is nonsense that Corbyn went 'all in' on the student vote. That couldn't be further from the truth. There was more in the manifesto for working people and workers rights, which IMO, were some of the best policies we had. A problem was that the policy messages were too complex and too long term, rather than focusing on a couple of key measures in each policy grouping. Whether we like it or not, Boris won with one simple message - "Get Brexit done" - you couldn't get away from that.
It may be that you saw less Labour signs than previously, but having seen the data, it would be factually incorrect to suggest there was in County Durham.
I don't think the majority were 'embarrassed' to vote Labour because of the leader and this can be seen from the number of votes cast, but the reasons above apply as to why this didn't turn into success. I also don't think we'll see much of a shift under Keir Starmer, even once he turns up to work (where is he?)
Oh and its funny that the "magic money tree" has been found as of late.
(30 Apr 2020, 7:23 pm)cbma06 If it wasn’t for the brexit party at the election, labour would of lost more seats and areas.
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(30 Apr 2020, 7:23 pm)cbma06 If it wasn’t for the brexit party at the election, labour would of lost more seats and areas.
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(30 Apr 2020, 7:04 pm)Adrian It wasn't because they liked Boris - it was an election won and lost on Brexit, with unfortunately many of what we'd consider 'core' Labour voters, feeling let down and disenfranchised with the Party's position on Brexit. It was an awful position; cobbled together to try and suit as many different groupings as possible, rather than having a simple (and democratic) policy. The leader not firmly committing one way or the other wasn't helpful either.
It is nonsense that Corbyn went 'all in' on the student vote. That couldn't be further from the truth. There was more in the manifesto for working people and workers rights, which IMO, were some of the best policies we had. A problem was that the policy messages were too complex and too long term, rather than focusing on a couple of key measures in each policy grouping. Whether we like it or not, Boris won with one simple message - "Get Brexit done" - you couldn't get away from that.
It may be that you saw less Labour signs than previously, but having seen the data, it would be factually incorrect to suggest there was in County Durham.
I don't think the majority were 'embarrassed' to vote Labour because of the leader and this can be seen from the number of votes cast, but the reasons above apply as to why this didn't turn into success. I also don't think we'll see much of a shift under Keir Starmer, even once he turns up to work (where is he?)
Oh and its funny that the "magic money tree" has been found as of late.
(30 Apr 2020, 7:04 pm)Adrian It wasn't because they liked Boris - it was an election won and lost on Brexit, with unfortunately many of what we'd consider 'core' Labour voters, feeling let down and disenfranchised with the Party's position on Brexit. It was an awful position; cobbled together to try and suit as many different groupings as possible, rather than having a simple (and democratic) policy. The leader not firmly committing one way or the other wasn't helpful either.
It is nonsense that Corbyn went 'all in' on the student vote. That couldn't be further from the truth. There was more in the manifesto for working people and workers rights, which IMO, were some of the best policies we had. A problem was that the policy messages were too complex and too long term, rather than focusing on a couple of key measures in each policy grouping. Whether we like it or not, Boris won with one simple message - "Get Brexit done" - you couldn't get away from that.
It may be that you saw less Labour signs than previously, but having seen the data, it would be factually incorrect to suggest there was in County Durham.
I don't think the majority were 'embarrassed' to vote Labour because of the leader and this can be seen from the number of votes cast, but the reasons above apply as to why this didn't turn into success. I also don't think we'll see much of a shift under Keir Starmer, even once he turns up to work (where is he?)
Oh and its funny that the "magic money tree" has been found as of late.
(30 Apr 2020, 9:42 pm)streetdeckfan For me, the issue with Labour's manifesto was that it just seemed like there were too many promises. It didn't matter if it was affordable, it /looked/ far fetched. Like you say, if they had focused on a couple key measures it would have been a lot more palatable.
(30 Apr 2020, 9:42 pm)streetdeckfan For me, the issue with Labour's manifesto was that it just seemed like there were too many promises. It didn't matter if it was affordable, it /looked/ far fetched. Like you say, if they had focused on a couple key measures it would have been a lot more palatable.
(30 Apr 2020, 10:26 pm)Adrian I can only speak from my County, but although Corbyn was one of the top 5 negatives brought up during canvassing, more than double that quoted Brexit/our Brexit stance.
The leadership issue is complicated, and as we now know, was setup to fail. See: https://labourlist.org/2020/04/internal-...by-labour/
(30 Apr 2020, 10:26 pm)Adrian I can only speak from my County, but although Corbyn was one of the top 5 negatives brought up during canvassing, more than double that quoted Brexit/our Brexit stance.
The leadership issue is complicated, and as we now know, was setup to fail. See: https://labourlist.org/2020/04/internal-...by-labour/
The Liberal Democrats had been due to announce their new leader in July, but then postponed the leadership contest to next year. They have now reconsidered and decided to hold the contest this summer after all. The result is due shortly after August 26th.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52736616
According to the LibDems' website, the idea is to have the new leader in place before the (virtual) party conference in September.
Most likely to stand are Ed Davey, Layla Moran, Wera Hobhouse and potentially Daisy Cooper.
Good news today for the North East and Nissan:
Nissan's UK factory in Sunderland will stay open as the Japanese carmaker carries out a global restructuring amid the coronavirus pandemic.
The carmaker also announced it will close its factory in Barcelona with the loss of about 2,800 jobs, prompting protests at the Spanish plant.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52829348
FUNNY, because i thought they were closing because of Brexit according the Labour Mp's??????????????
What's also funny, is that not one of the Labour MP's in the NE has said anything about it staying open
(28 May 2020, 2:56 pm)Michael Good news today for the North East and Nissan:
Nissan's UK factory in Sunderland will stay open as the Japanese carmaker carries out a global restructuring amid the coronavirus pandemic.
The carmaker also announced it will close its factory in Barcelona with the loss of about 2,800 jobs, prompting protests at the Spanish plant.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52829348
FUNNY, because i thought they were closing because of Brexit according the Labour Mp's??????????????
What's also funny, is that not one of the Labour MP's in the NE has said anything about it staying open
(28 May 2020, 2:56 pm)Michael Good news today for the North East and Nissan:
Nissan's UK factory in Sunderland will stay open as the Japanese carmaker carries out a global restructuring amid the coronavirus pandemic.
The carmaker also announced it will close its factory in Barcelona with the loss of about 2,800 jobs, prompting protests at the Spanish plant.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52829348
FUNNY, because i thought they were closing because of Brexit according the Labour Mp's??????????????
What's also funny, is that not one of the Labour MP's in the NE has said anything about it staying open
You'll recall that it was Nissan itself that threatened to leave if/when left the EU, if it was in the terms of a *hard (no deal) Brexit*
We haven't even left yet, but the terminology is really important here. This is what Nissan said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin...03721.html
https://inews.co.uk/news/business/nissan...and-506775
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50000530
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(31 May 2020, 4:26 pm)Adrian You'll recall that it was Nissan itself that threatened to leave if/when left the EU, if it was in the terms of a *hard (no deal) Brexit*
We haven't even left yet, but the terminology is really important here. This is what Nissan said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin...03721.html
https://inews.co.uk/news/business/nissan...and-506775
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50000530
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(31 May 2020, 4:26 pm)Adrian You'll recall that it was Nissan itself that threatened to leave if/when left the EU, if it was in the terms of a *hard (no deal) Brexit*
We haven't even left yet, but the terminology is really important here. This is what Nissan said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin...03721.html
https://inews.co.uk/news/business/nissan...and-506775
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50000530
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