(06 Dec 2014, 6:48 pm)Dan wrote Just remember that was very early speculation based on what I thought would happen - far from confirmation of any sort...  

Ye but they will know that if they read it!

(06 Dec 2014, 6:32 pm)Michael wrote I don't think the solars will be replaced this year, maybe next year but i agree, the South Shields - Sunderland part is going from Citaros/scania's to all scania's.... Even with the laser citaro's moving over to the 20/20A they're wont be enough and we have to remember the new 2/2A will need more citaro's, only place they can really get them from is the Laser, i don't think GNE will want a mixture of buses on the 2/2A.

Although iv'e just thought, the B7RLE's could be available for the 20/20A if the Toonlink get the new buses, that means they won't have to be repainted! 

It's a strange one.
Can't ever see a service, such as the Lime 78 ever deviating from the Consett/Stanley - Sunderland via Chester route, for similar reasons to those I mentioned earlier with the 35 (established, brand associated with service etc).

Has there been no registration/variation for the 38?

(07 Dec 2014, 9:57 pm)Tom wrote Has there been no registration/variation for the 38?

Not yet, the 71 one still hasn't appeared for its cancellation, these should appear tomorrow.. hopefully.

(07 Dec 2014, 10:09 pm)Michael wrote Not yet, the 71 one still hasn't appeared for its cancellation, these should appear tomorrow.. hopefully.

Ah cheers

Nothing today, and they are starting on the 25th Jan!

(08 Dec 2014, 5:26 pm)Tom wrote Nothing today, and they are starting on the 25th Jan!

Think I read on one post that Go North East submitted these to VOSA on Friday 28th November? It's VOSA who are behind, if so, and nothing to do with GNE...

even the proposed service 33 not been registered yet aswell.

If the council has to be involved securing some journeys etc.. it can take up to the 25th Jan and even after that as their have certain lay way with VOSA.

(08 Dec 2014, 5:30 pm)Dan wrote Think I read on one post that Go North East submitted these to VOSA on Friday 28th November? It's VOSA who are behind, if so, and nothing to do with GNE...

Oh right - cheers

Do you think the changes for the 38 are still going ahead though?

(08 Dec 2014, 5:39 pm)Tom wrote Oh right - cheers

Do you think the changes for the 38 are still going ahead though?

I think all changes will go ahead as proposed.

Looking forward to the changes, and I hope they will be a success.
I think the 20 and 35/36 will work really well! Not sure about the 38 though.

Is the 38 continuing to houghton via Silksworth or have I missed something. Will 2 use the current 42 route

Who on earth is going to travel from chester le st to town end farm of all places

(08 Dec 2014, 11:28 pm)Acky81 wrote Who on earth is going to travel from chester le st to town end farm of all places

Pepole who want to go to Beamish, they get on the 28/28A from chester :p

(08 Dec 2014, 10:52 pm)Acky81 wrote Is the 38 continuing to houghton via Silksworth or have I missed something. Will 2 use the current 42 route

Not sure, they should be confirmed on VOSA this week, VOSA are behind 

(08 Dec 2014, 10:52 pm)Acky81 wrote Is the 38 continuing to houghton via Silksworth or have I missed something. Will 2 use the current 42 route

It was planned to continue to Houghton via Silskworth and Grasswell. 

(08 Dec 2014, 11:28 pm)Acky81 wrote Who on earth is going to travel from chester le st to town end farm of all places

Not all services are designed for people to do end to end on. Its not like the angel where people will be highly likely to get on it at Durham and go to Newcastle. The main connection with these would be Chester and Sunderland with the town end farm bit for people who live round there.

(09 Dec 2014, 7:54 am)Robert wrote Not all services are designed for people to do end to end on. Its not like the angel where people will be highly likely to get on it at Durham and go to Newcastle. The main connection with these would be Chester and Sunderland with the town end farm bit for people who live round there.

You'll always get one who will do the full route,

Some more gone up on VOSA for the GNE changes.

http://www.simplygo.com/news/new-service...nd-stanley

PB0002400/419 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Houton Le Spring the Broadway and Heworth Metro given service number 4 effective from 01-Feb-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/420 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birtley Town Centre and Heworth metro given service number 82/82A/83A effective from 01-Feb-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/477 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between CHESTER-LE-STREET, FRONT STREET and HOUGHTON LE-SPRING THE BROADWAY given service number 71/884/885/886/888 effective from 25-Jan-2015.

PB0002400/481 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange and Houghton Le Spring, The Broadway given service number 238/38/38C effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/504 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between RICKLETON and CHESTER-LE-STREET,PARK VIEW NORTH LODGE SCHOOL given service number 884/885/886/887/888 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/556 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: SUNDERLAND FAWCETT STREET
Finish Point: ADMIRAL WAY/WILLIAM DOXFORD CENTRE
Via:
Service Number: 33
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 25-JAN-2015
Other Details: MONDAY TO SATURDAY (EXCEPT PUBLIC HOLIDAYS)

PB0002400/557 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: CONCORD BUS STATION
Finish Point: WASHINGTON STEPHENSON INDUSTRIAL ESTATE
Via:
Service Number: 982
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 01-FEB-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday (Except public holidays)

PB0003954/221 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Metrocentre given service number 64/64A/95/96/96A effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/222 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Blackhall Mill given service number 47 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/296 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Winlation Bus Station and Gateshead Interchange given service number 49/49B/49C effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/307 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle, Market Street and Newcastle, Market Street given service number 97/98/98A effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/351 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between South Shields, Market and Newcastle, Market Street given service number 27 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/357 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wallsend, Metro and Wallsend, Metro given service number 40/41 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/380 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackhall Mill, Chopwell Road and Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station given service number 31/32 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/471 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Whitley Bay, Park Avenue and Cramlington, Manor Walks given service number 17/17A effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/495 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Castleside, Church Street and Stanley Bus Station given service number V8 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route.

PB0003954/560 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackhall Mill, River View and Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station given service number 11 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

(09 Dec 2014, 11:34 am)Jimmi wrote PB0002400/419 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Houton Le Spring the Broadway and Heworth Metro given service number 4 effective from 01-Feb-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/420 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birtley Town Centre and Heworth metro given service number 82/82A/83A effective from 01-Feb-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/477 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between CHESTER-LE-STREET, FRONT STREET and HOUGHTON LE-SPRING THE BROADWAY given service number 71/884/885/886/888 effective from 25-Jan-2015.

PB0002400/481 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange and Houghton Le Spring, The Broadway given service number 238/38/38C effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/504 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between RICKLETON and CHESTER-LE-STREET,PARK VIEW NORTH LODGE SCHOOL given service number 884/885/886/887/888 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/556 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: SUNDERLAND FAWCETT STREET
Finish Point: ADMIRAL WAY/WILLIAM DOXFORD CENTRE
Via:
Service Number: 33
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 25-JAN-2015
Other Details: MONDAY TO SATURDAY (EXCEPT PUBLIC HOLIDAYS)

PB0002400/557 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: CONCORD BUS STATION
Finish Point: WASHINGTON STEPHENSON INDUSTRIAL ESTATE
Via:
Service Number: 982
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 01-FEB-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday (Except public holidays)

PB0003954/221 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Metrocentre given service number 64/64A/95/96/96A effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/222 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Blackhall Mill given service number 47 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/296 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Winlation Bus Station and Gateshead Interchange given service number 49/49B/49C effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/307 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle, Market Street and Newcastle, Market Street given service number 97/98/98A effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/351 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between South Shields, Market and Newcastle, Market Street given service number 27 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/357 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wallsend, Metro and Wallsend, Metro given service number 40/41 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/380 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackhall Mill, Chopwell Road and Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station given service number 31/32 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/471 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Whitley Bay, Park Avenue and Cramlington, Manor Walks given service number 17/17A effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/495 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Castleside, Church Street and Stanley Bus Station given service number V8 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Route.

PB0003954/560 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Blackhall Mill, River View and Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station given service number 11 effective from 25-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.

Changes to timetable?
Surely they aren't cancelling the late runs already?
Hope I am wrong on this one...

Seems to be a few, if only minor, changes to services outside of Sunderland!
Has anyone seen the late runs on the 4? How are passenger numbers?
What's the new Washington service? Workers service?
Interesting the 33 starts at Fawcett Street.

(09 Dec 2014, 11:57 am)Andreos1 wrote Changes to timetable?
Surely they aren't cancelling the late runs already?
Hope I am wrong on this one...

The late runs were introduced on 2nd November and the changes were registered about four weeks after that... There's usually a trial period of six months for this sort of thing.

I'd imagine that the timetable changes will be minor to coincide with the planned changes to services 82/83.

(09 Dec 2014, 12:48 pm)Drifter60 wrote Seems to be a few, if only minor, changes to services outside of Sunderland!
Has anyone seen the late runs on the 4? How are passenger numbers?
What's the new Washington service? Workers service?
Interesting the 33 starts at Fawcett Street.

Starting the 33 from same place as stagecoach service 12 to silksworth, trying to claw back passengers from the 12.

Thought the 33 would have done mill hill too as the 133 redby once did

Totally random route in my opinion this 36 plan. Previous 36 never worked as stagecoach dominate with 4 and 13

(09 Dec 2014, 1:34 pm)Acky81 wrote Totally random route in my opinion this 36 plan. Previous 36 never worked as stagecoach dominate with 4 and 13

But the current 29 is working...

(09 Dec 2014, 1:30 pm)Acky81 wrote Thought the 33 would have done mill hill too as the 133 redby once did

Proposed

The 33 will be mon to sat daytime 15 minute freq, the bus will change into a 39 at Doxford international, the 39 will be every 15 minute frequency when the 29 is withdrawn , I think through travel will be accepted for residents at moor side and doxford to silksworth for appointments and shopping

(09 Dec 2014, 12:48 pm)Drifter60 wrote Seems to be a few, if only minor, changes to services outside of Sunderland!
Has anyone seen the late runs on the 4? How are passenger numbers?
What's the new Washington service? Workers service?
Interesting the 33 starts at Fawcett Street.

Never seen it or used it on an evening/night since the changes.
Hopefully will be using it over Christmas.

Since the initial changes in November and the push at the time on social media, I haven't noticed any other marketing/advertising promoting the changes.
What that means, is anyone's guess.

It could be doing really well and doesn't need any additional advertising!