(31 May 2015, 5:44 pm)Kuyoyo I can't say anything until I have it confirmed - but from what I've heard, Durham and Ashington may be having a modern standard-specification decker swap before the 6 goes Sapphire so all Sapphire deckers in the region are of the same type
(31 May 2015, 5:44 pm)Kuyoyo I can't say anything until I have it confirmed - but from what I've heard, Durham and Ashington may be having a modern standard-specification decker swap before the 6 goes Sapphire so all Sapphire deckers in the region are of the same type
(31 May 2015, 5:44 pm)aureolin Why does the depot's preference come into it? If someone at Arriva has signed off painting and branding an extra vehicle for the X12, then surely that should be used in the first instance? It's a ridiculous situation having an 'X12' branded vehicle going round Durham on everything but the X12, and it confuses customers.
(31 May 2015, 5:44 pm)aureolin Why does the depot's preference come into it? If someone at Arriva has signed off painting and branding an extra vehicle for the X12, then surely that should be used in the first instance? It's a ridiculous situation having an 'X12' branded vehicle going round Durham on everything but the X12, and it confuses customers.
(31 May 2015, 5:42 pm)Dan You've seen no complaints from me about this over on the Go North East section of the forum, so there certainly wouldn't be any complaints from me on this section...
For Go North East, there's very few branded services that now have a branded spare, and even though a spare vehicle may be used frequently, there are occasions where it is not required, and is allocated to another service as a result. Arriva have "Sapphire" branded vehicles down on Teesside working normal services all day because they're often not required to deputise for the correct allocation. It's a similar situation up north with Go North East (think of the Fab56 Volvo B9TLs), but the difference is that they can be allocated to the 20/20A services on a Saturday no problem because they carry the company's corporate livery.
Although the brand identity is lost somewhat when the corporate liveried spares have to be used regularly to cover for branded vehicles (I'm thinking of the red Mercs at Stanley and the red Volvo B9TL at Riverside), I'd suggest this is still better than a 'wrong brand' working.
(31 May 2015, 5:44 pm)aureolin Why does the depot's preference come into it? If someone at Arriva has signed off painting and branding an extra vehicle for the X12, then surely that should be used in the first instance? It's a ridiculous situation having an 'X12' branded vehicle going round Durham on everything but the X12, and it confuses customers.
(31 May 2015, 5:45 pm)mb134 May have picked this up totally wrong, but do you mean Lowlanders back to Ashington *hopes*
(31 May 2015, 5:42 pm)Dan You've seen no complaints from me about this over on the Go North East section of the forum, so there certainly wouldn't be any complaints from me on this section...
For Go North East, there's very few branded services that now have a branded spare, and even though a spare vehicle may be used frequently, there are occasions where it is not required, and is allocated to another service as a result. Arriva have "Sapphire" branded vehicles down on Teesside working normal services all day because they're often not required to deputise for the correct allocation. It's a similar situation up north with Go North East (think of the Fab56 Volvo B9TLs), but the difference is that they can be allocated to the 20/20A services on a Saturday no problem because they carry the company's corporate livery.
Although the brand identity is lost somewhat when the corporate liveried spares have to be used regularly to cover for branded vehicles (I'm thinking of the red Mercs at Stanley and the red Volvo B9TL at Riverside), I'd suggest this is still better than a 'wrong brand' working.
(31 May 2015, 5:44 pm)aureolin Why does the depot's preference come into it? If someone at Arriva has signed off painting and branding an extra vehicle for the X12, then surely that should be used in the first instance? It's a ridiculous situation having an 'X12' branded vehicle going round Durham on everything but the X12, and it confuses customers.
(31 May 2015, 5:45 pm)mb134 May have picked this up totally wrong, but do you mean Lowlanders back to Ashington *hopes*
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo Maybe, maybe not - I don't know 100% yet, just a rumor until confirmed.
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo Maybe, maybe not - I don't know 100% yet, just a rumor until confirmed.
(31 May 2015, 5:49 pm)Tommy_1581 I like the sound of that...
7519-7521 to Belmont and we receive the 57-reg Lowlanders and refurbish them to MAX for X20?
(31 May 2015, 5:52 pm)Dan Agree.
I can come up with two plausible reasons:
Or it could just boil down to poor allocations, which should be nipped in the bud from higher above...
- Capacity issues on the Durham - Middlesbrough stretch of the route on Belmont's boards at peak times making it illogical to allocate a single deck vehicle. However, if this was the case, why wasn't a double-deck vehicle selected to be converted to MAX specification opposed to a single-deck?
- The bus is being kept local, at the request of the depot's engineering department (owing to a previous fault), as they want to make sure it's settled in before sending it out on a demanding service like the X12. This becomes less and less likely the more time it spends on these services, though. This has been ongoing since January...
(31 May 2015, 5:49 pm)Tommy_1581 I like the sound of that...
7519-7521 to Belmont and we receive the 57-reg Lowlanders and refurbish them to MAX for X20?
(31 May 2015, 5:52 pm)Dan Agree.
I can come up with two plausible reasons:
Or it could just boil down to poor allocations, which should be nipped in the bud from higher above...
- Capacity issues on the Durham - Middlesbrough stretch of the route on Belmont's boards at peak times making it illogical to allocate a single deck vehicle. However, if this was the case, why wasn't a double-deck vehicle selected to be converted to MAX specification opposed to a single-deck?
- The bus is being kept local, at the request of the depot's engineering department (owing to a previous fault), as they want to make sure it's settled in before sending it out on a demanding service like the X12. This becomes less and less likely the more time it spends on these services, though. This has been ongoing since January...
(31 May 2015, 5:57 pm)mb134 Either way, sounds good
Would image as a result (if it did occur) these would be refurbished to MAX specification for the 20/X20, with 7519-21 going down for the Sapphire conversion of the 6?
If 7453-6 did move back, and were used for the purpose previously stated, could they look at increasing the frequency of the 20/X20, or extending it to Alnwick?
(31 May 2015, 5:57 pm)mb134 Either way, sounds good
Would image as a result (if it did occur) these would be refurbished to MAX specification for the 20/X20, with 7519-21 going down for the Sapphire conversion of the 6?
If 7453-6 did move back, and were used for the purpose previously stated, could they look at increasing the frequency of the 20/X20, or extending it to Alnwick?
(31 May 2015, 5:56 pm)Tom Yeah hopefully the beasts will be for the 20/X20 - Then again the ALX400's are just as good.
(31 May 2015, 5:57 pm)mb134 Either way, sounds good
Would image as a result (if it did occur) these would be refurbished to MAX specification for the 20/X20, with 7519-21 going down for the Sapphire conversion of the 6?
If 7453-6 did move back, and were used for the purpose previously stated, could they look at increasing the frequency of the 20/X20, or extending it to Alnwick?
(31 May 2015, 5:56 pm)Tom Yeah hopefully the beasts will be for the 20/X20 - Then again the ALX400's are just as good.
(31 May 2015, 5:57 pm)mb134 Either way, sounds good
Would image as a result (if it did occur) these would be refurbished to MAX specification for the 20/X20, with 7519-21 going down for the Sapphire conversion of the 6?
If 7453-6 did move back, and were used for the purpose previously stated, could they look at increasing the frequency of the 20/X20, or extending it to Alnwick?
(31 May 2015, 5:59 pm)Kuyoyo Only be 3 of the Lowlander if it's true - as for MAX refurbishment, no idea
(31 May 2015, 5:59 pm)Kuyoyo Only be 3 of the Lowlander if it's true - as for MAX refurbishment, no idea
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo 1512 is allocated to a 27 working that does an X5 - it also means it's earning its keep and within easy reach to be swapped off if required on the 5s.
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo So, you were complaining about a split allocation the other day yet now you want a Pulsar on there? Durham seem to want to use deckers on there (and the region is short of modern deckers - a fact now becoming apparent with the X4/X5 MAX upgrade and the 6 Sapphire upgrade) and I think originally the plan was for a Pulsar board to remain on the Durham X12, obviously that all changed. Of course, ideally Durham shouldn't be putting 1415 out on the 6 but if it's all that spare and it's not required on the X12, what else do you do?
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo 1512 is allocated to a 27 working that does an X5 - it also means it's earning its keep and within easy reach to be swapped off if required on the 5s.
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo So, you were complaining about a split allocation the other day yet now you want a Pulsar on there? Durham seem to want to use deckers on there (and the region is short of modern deckers - a fact now becoming apparent with the X4/X5 MAX upgrade and the 6 Sapphire upgrade) and I think originally the plan was for a Pulsar board to remain on the Durham X12, obviously that all changed. Of course, ideally Durham shouldn't be putting 1415 out on the 6 but if it's all that spare and it's not required on the X12, what else do you do?
(31 May 2015, 6:02 pm)Kuyoyo Only 3 would go as Durham would be down a vehicle if it lost 4 deckers and only gained 3 - unless 7518 also moved south to Durham to give a decker spare for the 6/24
(31 May 2015, 6:02 pm)Kuyoyo Only 3 would go as Durham would be down a vehicle if it lost 4 deckers and only gained 3 - unless 7518 also moved south to Durham to give a decker spare for the 6/24
(31 May 2015, 5:59 pm)Kuyoyo As for the poor allocation comment - if it's the only bus left without a defect, would you rather have no bus?
(31 May 2015, 5:59 pm)Kuyoyo As for the poor allocation comment - if it's the only bus left without a defect, would you rather have no bus?
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo So, you were complaining about a split allocation the other day yet now you want a Pulsar on there? Durham seem to want to use deckers on there (and the region is short of modern deckers - a fact now becoming apparent with the X4/X5 MAX upgrade and the 6 Sapphire upgrade) and I think originally the plan was for a Pulsar board to remain on the Durham X12, obviously that all changed. Of course, ideally Durham shouldn't be putting 1415 out on the 6 but if it's all that spare and it's not required on the X12, what else do you do?
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo So, you were complaining about a split allocation the other day yet now you want a Pulsar on there? Durham seem to want to use deckers on there (and the region is short of modern deckers - a fact now becoming apparent with the X4/X5 MAX upgrade and the 6 Sapphire upgrade) and I think originally the plan was for a Pulsar board to remain on the Durham X12, obviously that all changed. Of course, ideally Durham shouldn't be putting 1415 out on the 6 but if it's all that spare and it's not required on the X12, what else do you do?
(31 May 2015, 6:10 pm)Dan As 1415's appearance on service 6 (and other services besides the X12) seems to be almost daily, Durham must have huge operational issues, if it's the only bus left in the depot on all of these occasions!
What is their spare vehicle %, again?
(31 May 2015, 6:10 pm)Dan As 1415's appearance on service 6 (and other services besides the X12) seems to be almost daily, Durham must have huge operational issues, if it's the only bus left in the depot on all of these occasions!
What is their spare vehicle %, again?
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo Durham seem to want to use deckers on there (and the region is short of modern deckers - a fact now becoming apparent with the X4/X5 MAX upgrade and the 6 Sapphire upgrade)
(31 May 2015, 5:53 pm)Kuyoyo Durham seem to want to use deckers on there (and the region is short of modern deckers - a fact now becoming apparent with the X4/X5 MAX upgrade and the 6 Sapphire upgrade)
How would I best go about complaining to Arriva regarding the red light incident yesterday?
Also what info should I include?
(31 May 2015, 6:33 pm)Jimmi How would I best go about complaining to Arriva regarding the red light incident yesterday?
Also what info should I include?
(31 May 2015, 6:33 pm)Jimmi How would I best go about complaining to Arriva regarding the red light incident yesterday?
Also what info should I include?
(31 May 2015, 6:33 pm)Jimmi How would I best go about complaining to Arriva regarding the red light incident yesterday?
Also what info should I include?
(31 May 2015, 6:36 pm)Robert Journey, vehicle fleet number if possible. Using that information, they should be able to track the driver down without trouble.
(31 May 2015, 6:37 pm)MarcTheA4 File a formal complaint. A rough time, service number, usually the fleet number of the vehicle would come in handy, and the location the incident took place should be enough for them to find the incident on CCTV, I would think.
(31 May 2015, 6:36 pm)Robert Journey, vehicle fleet number if possible. Using that information, they should be able to track the driver down without trouble.
(31 May 2015, 6:37 pm)MarcTheA4 File a formal complaint. A rough time, service number, usually the fleet number of the vehicle would come in handy, and the location the incident took place should be enough for them to find the incident on CCTV, I would think.
(31 May 2015, 6:48 pm)Jimmi Do I use the contact us page http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/contact-us/ or some other way?
(31 May 2015, 6:48 pm)Jimmi Do I use the contact us page http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/contact-us/ or some other way?