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(19 Jul 2015, 2:07 pm)aureolin wrote Quiet day in today, so I thought; what if de-regulation didn't happen all those years ago....

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Tyne and Wear PTE - 9119 - SN64CTU by aureolindn, on Flickr

I don't think TYPTE would have been that stupid to order Streetdecks.
Not like GNE anyways who will probably order them.
Apart from that it looks nice Smile
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When i die, i want the Terminator 2 theme to play, the theme which plays when he goes in to the molten steel......... just seems appropriate if i get cremated haha

Also... Terminator 2 was one of the best squeals to a movie ever...
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(22 Jul 2015, 8:00 am)Michael wrote When i die, i want the Terminator 2 theme to play, the theme which plays when he goes in to the molten steel......... just seems appropriate if i get cremated haha

Also... Terminator 2 was one of the best squeals to a movie ever...
That would be a good song to play...

When I cash in my heavenly chips I want a few songs played My Way by Frank Sinatra with Jerusalem and Danny Boy...

One of my mates at GNE once said if I died before him he would arrange for my coffin to be transported on an MPD(because I always moaned about them) as a joke at my expense
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(22 Jul 2015, 10:27 am)MrFozz wrote That would be a good song to play...

When I cash in my heavenly chips I want a few songs played My Way by Frank Sinatra with Jerusalem and Danny Boy...

One of my mates at GNE once said if I died before him he would arrange for my coffin to be transported on an MPD(because I always moaned about them) as a joke at my expense

haha!

Good idea
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I am not the best when it comes to vehicle types for buses, for most of my photos in the north east I use what it says on the NEB fleet list, normally I have no problems but I have had some comments on the photo of the four Stagecoach Enivro 400's in Wheatsheaf depot which I uploaded on Monday. https://www.flickr.com/photos/127079988@...datetaken/

Any ideas what to do?
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(22 Jul 2015, 6:43 pm)Jimmi wrote I am not the best when it comes to vehicle types for buses, for most of my photos in the north east I use what it says on the NEB fleet list, normally I have no problems but I have had some comments on the photo of the four Stagecoach Enivro 400's in Wheatsheaf depot which I uploaded on Monday. https://www.flickr.com/photos/127079988@...datetaken/

Any ideas what to do?

Chris Forbes who commented saying " Its a E40D" He's wrong its a Dennis Trident 4. And Bus Spotter Ross is correct, Its a Dennis Trident 4.
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(22 Jul 2015, 6:47 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Chris Forbes who commented saying " Its a E40D" He's wrong its a Dennis Trident 4.  And Bus Spotter Ross is correct, Its a Dennis Trident 4.

What's a Dennis Trident 4?  Huh
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(22 Jul 2015, 6:52 pm)R852 PRG wrote The two of them seem like your average ''Stagecoach buffs''; who must know absolutely everything about every single bus operated by Stagecoach UK. Obviously, an error has been picked up here; and they have pounced.

And not only that, it turns out they are both wrong. I've only head of a Dennis Trident 2. Never an Dennis Trident 4.
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(22 Jul 2015, 6:52 pm)R852 PRG wrote The two of them seem like your average ''Stagecoach buffs''; who must know absolutely everything about every single bus operated by Stagecoach UK. Obviously, an error has been picked up here; and they have pounced.

Funnily enough I put the same thing on Arriva's Enviro 400's and no-one has ever made any comments which tend to get more views than most of the Stagecoach photos I upload and I upload this and it's a problem.

Not happy with this, hate thinking I am wrong and if it was a thing that became a frequent thing I would be tempted to not place any body and chassis makes in my photo descriptions, bad enough when I leave the North East for photos and have to guess such as my recent trips to Blackpool, Carlisle and Scarborough.
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(22 Jul 2015, 6:50 pm)aureolin wrote What's a Dennis Trident 4?  Huh

(22 Jul 2015, 6:54 pm)S813 FVK wrote And not only that, it turns out they are both wrong. I've only head of a Dennis Trident 2. Never an Dennis Trident 4.





The Dennis Trident 4 was the Dennis Trident Chassis updated for the E400 Euro 5 Model ( 2009 - 2015 )
The original Dennis Trident was found in the first examples ( 1999 - 2003 )
In Euro 3 it was modified and then marketed as the " Dennis Trident 2 " ( 2003 - 2006 )
In Euro 4 for some reason it was still called Trident 2
And when it came to Euro 5 it was updated again and named Trident 4. You will find these in all ( Excluding 57 reg ) Arriva examples
Though the 196** batch at Stagecoach are Unique in having Spicer Axles instead of ZF ones.

Trident 4 chassis ( Excluding E400H )  also feature a ZF axels while all original and Trident 2s have Spicer Axles
E400Hs still Have Spicer Axles.
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(22 Jul 2015, 7:01 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote The Dennis Trident 4 was the Dennis Trident Chassis updated for the E400 Euro 5 Model ( 2009 - 2015 )
The original Dennis Trident was found in the first examples ( 1999 - 2003 )
In Euro 3 it was modified and then marketed as the " Dennis Trident 2 " ( 2003 - 2006 )
In Euro 4 for some reason it was still called Trident 2
And when it came to Euro 5 it was updated again and named Trident 4. You will find these in all ( Excluding 57 reg ) Arriva examples
Though the 196** batch at Stagecoach are Unique in having Spicer Axles instead of ZF ones.

Trident 4 chassis ( Excluding E400H )  also feature a ZF axels while all original and Trident 2s have Spicer Axles
E400Hs still Have Spicer Axles.

Do you have a source for that info? Not doubting you, just my understanding was as follows:

Dennis Trident 2: 2-axle chassis
Dennis Trident 3: 3-axle chassis

I could be wrong like.....
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(22 Jul 2015, 7:13 pm)aureolin wrote Do you have a source for that info? Not doubting you, just my understanding was as follows:

Dennis Trident 2: 2-axle chassis
Dennis Trident 3: 3-axle chassis

I could be wrong like.....

You are right, there's no such thing as a Trident 4, the chassis is now the E40D. Same as 37301-19 are E20D not Dart 4 (as per 36081-94 and 36461-79).
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(22 Jul 2015, 7:13 pm)aureolin wrote Do you have a source for that info? Not doubting you, just my understanding was as follows:

Dennis Trident 2: 2-axle chassis
Dennis Trident 3: 3-axle chassis

I could be wrong like.....

Spot on.

I believe, officially, the newer (Euro 5 and 6?) ADL products are ADL E20D, ADL E40D etc opposed to Dennis Dart SLF 4, Dennis Trident 2, etc. I wouldn't suggest that the latter is incorrect, though, and most enthusiasts would 'accept' both.
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(22 Jul 2015, 7:16 pm)Kuyoyo wrote You are right, there's no such thing as a Trident 4, the chassis is now the E40D. Same as 37301-19 are E20D not Dart 4 (as per 36081-94 and 36461-79).

(22 Jul 2015, 7:13 pm)aureolin wrote Do you have a source for that info? Not doubting you, just my understanding was as follows:

Dennis Trident 2: 2-axle chassis
Dennis Trident 3: 3-axle chassis

I could be wrong like.....
(22 Jul 2015, 7:18 pm)Dan wrote Spot on.

I believe, officially, the newer ADL products are ADL E20D, ADL E40D etc opposed to Dennis Dart SLF 4, Dennis Trident 2, etc. I wouldn't suggest that the latter is incorrect, though.


Though yous may be right about E40D, A 3 Axle Trident ( Hong Kong , Singapore ) used to be merked as a Trident 5 , Though going by everyone else's comments the Enviro 500 today will be marked as a E50D or E50H for the hybrid version.

A long time ago, before I registered on NEB I had a ride on a 60 Reg Stagecoach E400 196** though I cant remember what fleet number it had, it definitely had  Trident 4 on its Manufactures plate next to the doors so this will have been a recent change to naming it the E40D

Though im not sure, I think the best way to do it will look at the Manufacture's plate next to the doors, im annoyed now I was on 37305 today so could of checked!
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(22 Jul 2015, 7:18 pm)Dan wrote Spot on.

I believe, officially, the newer (Euro 5 and 6?) ADL products are ADL E20D, ADL E40D etc opposed to Dennis Dart SLF 4, Dennis Trident 2, etc. I wouldn't suggest that the latter is incorrect, though, and most enthusiasts would 'accept' both.

So is my Flickr description correct or incorrect? I think I am more confused now than I was before. I am terrible with body's and chassis.
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(22 Jul 2015, 7:47 pm)Jimmi wrote So is my Flickr description correct or incorrect? I think I am more confused now than I was before. I am terrible with body's and chassis.

I would leave it as it is and ignore anyone trying to nitpick. "Dennis Trident 2" is, by and large, an accepted chassis for the ADL Enviro 400.

I've just had a look at his Flickr photos and he includes no detail of vehicle make and type himself...
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(22 Jul 2015, 7:54 pm)Dan wrote I would leave it as it is and ignore anyone trying to nitpick. "Dennis Trident 2" is, by and large, an accepted chassis for the ADL Enviro 400.

I've just had a look at his Flickr photos and he includes no detail of vehicle make and type himself...

What a knobhead.
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(22 Jul 2015, 7:54 pm)Dan wrote I would leave it as it is and ignore anyone trying to nitpick. "Dennis Trident 2" is, by and large, an accepted chassis for the ADL Enviro 400.

I've just had a look at his Flickr photos and he includes no detail of vehicle make and type himself...

Sounds like he's an anorak enthusiast to me.
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(22 Jul 2015, 7:54 pm)Dan wrote I would leave it as it is and ignore anyone trying to nitpick. "Dennis Trident 2" is, by and large, an accepted chassis for the ADL Enviro 400.

I've just had a look at his Flickr photos and he includes no detail of vehicle make and type himself...

Just looked at both and neither do.

Also at least I know how to type a registration, SJ 15 PUX, seriously! Nearly all of them are like this.
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(22 Jul 2015, 8:17 pm)Jimmi wrote Just looked at both and neither do.

Also at least I know how to type a registration, SJ 15 PUX, seriously! Nearly all of them are like this.

There is no space between the SJ and the 15. Therefore, is there any need to put one in? I just copy the destination down as it is (xxxx xxx)
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(22 Jul 2015, 8:25 pm)S813 FVK wrote There is no space between the SJ and the 15. Therefore, is there any need to put one in? I just copy the destination down as it is (xxxx xxx)

I tend to put both in, to maximise the chance of my photographs being found on a search, ie NE15ABC and NE15 ABC.

No idea why an extra space would be put in though.
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(22 Jul 2015, 8:25 pm)S813 FVK wrote There is no space between the SJ and the 15. Therefore, is there any need to put one in? I just copy the destination down as it is (xxxx xxx)

Quite right, I show registrations as (example registration given) YT51 EAW in the title, then put it down as YT51EAW in the description, partly so it comes up in searches for the registration in both ways.