Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2015
Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2015
(16 Dec 2015, 10:19 pm)Jimmi I love a good old route map, they actually help me to visualise the a route. I particularly like my leaflet for the Durham County Council map of services in County Durham.
(16 Dec 2015, 11:18 pm)Greg in Weardale Yes, very good idea. As I've said before proper maps should be on each GNE timetable like Arriva's (and on Toonlink X30/31) However maps of each area showing all routes is a good idea too. Only trouble is, I couldn't get them to download!
(16 Dec 2015, 10:19 pm)Jimmi I love a good old route map, they actually help me to visualise the a route. I particularly like my leaflet for the Durham County Council map of services in County Durham.
(16 Dec 2015, 11:18 pm)Greg in Weardale Yes, very good idea. As I've said before proper maps should be on each GNE timetable like Arriva's (and on Toonlink X30/31) However maps of each area showing all routes is a good idea too. Only trouble is, I couldn't get them to download!
(18 Dec 2015, 10:00 am)Michael Any more Duel door B10s been converted to become DDA?
(18 Dec 2015, 10:00 am)Michael Any more Duel door B10s been converted to become DDA?
(18 Dec 2015, 11:27 am)Diamond One Not many now last I recalled
(18 Dec 2015, 10:00 am)Michael Any more Duel door B10s been converted to become DDA?
(18 Dec 2015, 11:27 am)Diamond One Not many now last I recalled
(18 Dec 2015, 12:55 pm)Dan Apologies - my fault for not keeping you all updated, but I've now updated the news page.
Volvo B10BLEs 5154, 5157 and 5171 were all sent to Thorntons earlier this week for DDA modifications. The remaining Volvo B10BLEs which aren't DDA-compliant but presently remain in service (5151, 5158 and 5160) are all awaiting withdrawal, having been previously replaced by other vehicles.
(18 Dec 2015, 12:55 pm)Dan Apologies - my fault for not keeping you all updated, but I've now updated the news page.
Volvo B10BLEs 5154, 5157 and 5171 were all sent to Thorntons earlier this week for DDA modifications. The remaining Volvo B10BLEs which aren't DDA-compliant but presently remain in service (5151, 5158 and 5160) are all awaiting withdrawal, having been previously replaced by other vehicles.
(18 Dec 2015, 1:06 pm)DanPicken Surely the Renowns first as they're older.
(18 Dec 2015, 1:08 pm)Michael I wasn't sure as they've just paid for them to be converted to become DDA and it seems the Cadets are going first with some of them ending up on Route training.
(18 Dec 2015, 1:06 pm)DanPicken Surely the Renowns first as they're older.
(18 Dec 2015, 1:08 pm)Michael I wasn't sure as they've just paid for them to be converted to become DDA and it seems the Cadets are going first with some of them ending up on Route training.
(18 Dec 2015, 1:08 pm)Michael I wasn't sure as they've just paid for them to be converted to become DDA and it seems the Cadets are going first with some of them ending up on Route training.
(18 Dec 2015, 1:13 pm)DanPicken It may of been since they couldn't get Streetshites in time, it's only the Cadets which are unreliable.
(18 Dec 2015, 1:13 pm)Dan The book value on full size single deckers and double deckers is expected to depreciate over the vehicle's life span of 15 years. Midibuses and minibuses are only expected to depreciate over a life span of 12 years.
(18 Dec 2015, 1:13 pm)DanPicken It may of been since they couldn't get Streetshites in time, it's only the Cadets which are unreliable.
(18 Dec 2015, 1:13 pm)Dan The book value on full size single deckers and double deckers is expected to depreciate over the vehicle's life span of 15 years. Midibuses and minibuses are only expected to depreciate over a life span of 12 years.
If Streetdecks are coming for X21 let's take the opportunity to revive the OK Express(way) brand on it with that wonderful traditional style livery the Scanias had for the OK1. But please, no windows blocked by branding, as being able to see out is especially important on long routes (and I and everyone I know think its important on all routes).
(18 Dec 2015, 3:35 pm)Greg in Weardale If Streetdecks are coming for X21 let's take the opportunity to revive the OK Express(way) brand on it with that wonderful traditional style livery the Scanias had for the OK1. But please, no windows blocked by branding, as being able to see out is especially important on long routes (and I and everyone I know think its important on all routes).
(18 Dec 2015, 3:35 pm)Greg in Weardale If Streetdecks are coming for X21 let's take the opportunity to revive the OK Express(way) brand on it with that wonderful traditional style livery the Scanias had for the OK1. But please, no windows blocked by branding, as being able to see out is especially important on long routes (and I and everyone I know think its important on all routes).
(18 Dec 2015, 4:27 pm)S813 FVK And to compliment the above, the X21 has been branded Pronto since the service was introduced in its current guise. I think it would be wrong to change it given that customers are more familiar with the Pronto brand.
(18 Dec 2015, 4:27 pm)S813 FVK And to compliment the above, the X21 has been branded Pronto since the service was introduced in its current guise. I think it would be wrong to change it given that customers are more familiar with the Pronto brand.
6020 was looking forlorn this morning at Chester Moor. Had a fitter attending to it.
I think it was 6020 that I saw parked up on Saturday with its hazards on.
re OK vs Pronto and ages. The Northern name was phased out years ago, made a comeback and has now been introduced as a brand.
Post 86, there was no such thing as 'Northern', only variants of it.
A gap of 20+ years prior to it being reintroduced.
The OK name vanished in the mid/late 90's.
If Northern is ok (no pun intended), why not OK?
(18 Dec 2015, 4:39 pm)Andreos1 6020 was looking forlorn this morning at Chester Moor. Had a fitter attending to it.
I think it was 6020 that I saw parked up on Saturday with its hazards on.
re OK vs Pronto and ages. The Northern name was phased out years ago, made a comeback and has now been introduced as a brand.
Post 86, there was no such thing as 'Northern', only variants of it.
A gap of 20+ years prior to it being reintroduced.
The OK name vanished in the mid/late 90's.
If Northern is ok (no pun intended), why not OK?
(18 Dec 2015, 4:39 pm)Andreos1 6020 was looking forlorn this morning at Chester Moor. Had a fitter attending to it.
I think it was 6020 that I saw parked up on Saturday with its hazards on.
re OK vs Pronto and ages. The Northern name was phased out years ago, made a comeback and has now been introduced as a brand.
Post 86, there was no such thing as 'Northern', only variants of it.
A gap of 20+ years prior to it being reintroduced.
The OK name vanished in the mid/late 90's.
If Northern is ok (no pun intended), why not OK?
Quite a few young people on this forum lamented the passing of the OK Expressway livery and Northern, Venture and Diamond all refer to historic operators around the area now served by the brands. There's nowt wrong with having some traditionally named brands and liveries along with some modern, trendy ones. The X21 is now an ideal case for the former. And several brands (some good, some not) have been replaced recently eg Highwayman to Green Arrow, (quite liked both), Laser (so so) to See it, do it (naff), Lime (stupid name) to Coast & Country (not bad) etc. Pronto is a pretty silly name and not a brilliant livery. The Bishop - Newcastle route was the main line of OK (for both constituent companies, Emerson and Howe) so there's a relevance there, (which there wasn't with the OK1 route) and it was a brilliant livery. I hope Prince Bishops will be kept as it's a good brand (being pedantic, it would have more relevance to a Durham (Cathedral) to Bishop Auckland (home of the Bishop) route, but the name does cover the whole area as the "Land of the Prince Bishops" because in mediaeval times the Bishop ruled what is now County Durham and Northumberland in the name of the King (end of history lesson).
