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BusLoverMum



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05 Feb 2016, 10:31 pm #2,421
(05 Feb 2016, 9:44 pm)ifm001 I'd rather the additional X21 stop had been Birtley Town Centre rather than Low Fell. Stopping at all the stops on the 21 between Birtley and Newcastle takes ages. Yes Arriva X12 provides the link but no good if using buzzfares and the smartzone card is yet to be introduced in Gateshead. Which to be honest proably never will as the only stagecoach and arriva services are x12 and x34 so no point in smartzone for Gateshead.
But faster expresses between Birtley and Newcastle please GNE

Having no choice but to trundle through Birtley at 20mph would reduce reliability. Heck, you already have 10 buses an hour to Newcastle via Durham Road - and the 21 doesn't take much longer than the X12. I'd understand the want for more express buses if the time difference was 10-15 minutes, but it's not. It's half that.
BusLoverMum
05 Feb 2016, 10:31 pm #2,421

(05 Feb 2016, 9:44 pm)ifm001 I'd rather the additional X21 stop had been Birtley Town Centre rather than Low Fell. Stopping at all the stops on the 21 between Birtley and Newcastle takes ages. Yes Arriva X12 provides the link but no good if using buzzfares and the smartzone card is yet to be introduced in Gateshead. Which to be honest proably never will as the only stagecoach and arriva services are x12 and x34 so no point in smartzone for Gateshead.
But faster expresses between Birtley and Newcastle please GNE

Having no choice but to trundle through Birtley at 20mph would reduce reliability. Heck, you already have 10 buses an hour to Newcastle via Durham Road - and the 21 doesn't take much longer than the X12. I'd understand the want for more express buses if the time difference was 10-15 minutes, but it's not. It's half that.

Jimmi



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05 Feb 2016, 10:41 pm #2,422
(05 Feb 2016, 9:44 pm)ifm001 I'd rather the additional X21 stop had been Birtley Town Centre rather than Low Fell. Stopping at all the stops on the 21 between Birtley and Newcastle takes ages. Yes Arriva X12 provides the link but no good if using buzzfares and the smartzone card is yet to be introduced in Gateshead. Which to be honest proably never will as the only stagecoach and arriva services are x12 and x34 so no point in smartzone for Gateshead.
But faster expresses between Birtley and Newcastle please GNE

Problem with that would be the additional journey time it would take. I'd hate it if the X21 route was made much longer. At least the one extra stop Low Fell doesn't really add much time onto the route, Low Fell would probably add at least 5 extra minutes onto the route, you don't really want the route taking the same length of time or longer than Arriva's competing X12 service.
Jimmi
05 Feb 2016, 10:41 pm #2,422

(05 Feb 2016, 9:44 pm)ifm001 I'd rather the additional X21 stop had been Birtley Town Centre rather than Low Fell. Stopping at all the stops on the 21 between Birtley and Newcastle takes ages. Yes Arriva X12 provides the link but no good if using buzzfares and the smartzone card is yet to be introduced in Gateshead. Which to be honest proably never will as the only stagecoach and arriva services are x12 and x34 so no point in smartzone for Gateshead.
But faster expresses between Birtley and Newcastle please GNE

Problem with that would be the additional journey time it would take. I'd hate it if the X21 route was made much longer. At least the one extra stop Low Fell doesn't really add much time onto the route, Low Fell would probably add at least 5 extra minutes onto the route, you don't really want the route taking the same length of time or longer than Arriva's competing X12 service.

05 Feb 2016, 10:50 pm #2,423
OK I got it wrong in post #2322 when I speculated that 15 minutes would need to be added to the X21 running times so that Streetwrecks could cope - it's only 5 min northbound and 6 min southbound and I suppose 1 min of that will be for the new Low Fell stop; nothing wrong with stopping there, but it would make a mockery of the service to go through Birtley. Hopefully "Pronto" has gone, but I suppose it's too much to hope that my long suggested "OK Express" will take its place.
Greg in Weardale
05 Feb 2016, 10:50 pm #2,423

OK I got it wrong in post #2322 when I speculated that 15 minutes would need to be added to the X21 running times so that Streetwrecks could cope - it's only 5 min northbound and 6 min southbound and I suppose 1 min of that will be for the new Low Fell stop; nothing wrong with stopping there, but it would make a mockery of the service to go through Birtley. Hopefully "Pronto" has gone, but I suppose it's too much to hope that my long suggested "OK Express" will take its place.

05 Feb 2016, 10:51 pm #2,424
I suppose "Angel Express" has a logic to it.
Greg in Weardale
05 Feb 2016, 10:51 pm #2,424

I suppose "Angel Express" has a logic to it.

dannygee



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05 Feb 2016, 11:23 pm #2,425
What about timetables fo the 19 thats getting updated in march
dannygee
05 Feb 2016, 11:23 pm #2,425

What about timetables fo the 19 thats getting updated in march

Michael



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05 Feb 2016, 11:26 pm #2,426
(05 Feb 2016, 11:23 pm)dannygee What about timetables fo the 19 thats getting updated in march

GNE will put the March changes on soon.

Could be next week for those ones.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
05 Feb 2016, 11:26 pm #2,426

(05 Feb 2016, 11:23 pm)dannygee What about timetables fo the 19 thats getting updated in march

GNE will put the March changes on soon.

Could be next week for those ones.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Ambassador



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06 Feb 2016, 12:57 am #2,427
(05 Feb 2016, 10:31 pm)BusLoverMum Having no choice but to trundle through Birtley at 20mph would reduce reliability. Heck, you already have 10 buses an hour to Newcastle via Durham Road - and the 21 doesn't take much longer than the X12. I'd understand the want for more express buses if the time difference was 10-15 minutes, but it's not. It's half that.

Outside of peak traffic at a crawl, not a single bus adheres to 20mph through Birtley.

At peak the X12 is a lot quicker purely because of heavy loadings through Durham Rd. The 7.30 X12 takes me about 15 mins to Gateshead. Normally the 21 is at least 30 minutes. X12 is 60p cheaper too.

Ironically most X21s seem to happily trundle through Birtley though that may change once western bypass works are complete.

I don't think Low Fell necessarily needs faster links to Durham. It's an odd one, I can on,y see it as a shot at Arriva/money to be made from low fell, which I guess makes commercial sense

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
06 Feb 2016, 12:57 am #2,427

(05 Feb 2016, 10:31 pm)BusLoverMum Having no choice but to trundle through Birtley at 20mph would reduce reliability. Heck, you already have 10 buses an hour to Newcastle via Durham Road - and the 21 doesn't take much longer than the X12. I'd understand the want for more express buses if the time difference was 10-15 minutes, but it's not. It's half that.

Outside of peak traffic at a crawl, not a single bus adheres to 20mph through Birtley.

At peak the X12 is a lot quicker purely because of heavy loadings through Durham Rd. The 7.30 X12 takes me about 15 mins to Gateshead. Normally the 21 is at least 30 minutes. X12 is 60p cheaper too.

Ironically most X21s seem to happily trundle through Birtley though that may change once western bypass works are complete.

I don't think Low Fell necessarily needs faster links to Durham. It's an odd one, I can on,y see it as a shot at Arriva/money to be made from low fell, which I guess makes commercial sense


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

James101



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06 Feb 2016, 1:12 am #2,428
(05 Feb 2016, 4:10 pm)Jimmi Just me who doesn't really care that much what the branding looks like? So long as I can identify the routes they are branded for, I'm not really bothered what they look like so much, I'm like "there is a Pronto" not "there is a bus with crap branding that makes it look like a menu for a pizza shop"

^^ the best description of Pronto branding I've read  Tongue
James101
06 Feb 2016, 1:12 am #2,428

(05 Feb 2016, 4:10 pm)Jimmi Just me who doesn't really care that much what the branding looks like? So long as I can identify the routes they are branded for, I'm not really bothered what they look like so much, I'm like "there is a Pronto" not "there is a bus with crap branding that makes it look like a menu for a pizza shop"

^^ the best description of Pronto branding I've read  Tongue

Andreos1



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06 Feb 2016, 5:58 pm #2,429
(05 Feb 2016, 12:51 pm)Michael Along with the changes GNE have relieved the new "Red Arrows" Branding.

Uploaded a pic but its blurry 


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Interestingly the new X21 timetable is in the rubbish style.. keeping the new branding under wraps for the time being?

Nobody seems to have noticed the additional sticker next to the wifi symbol.

New buses such as the Streetlites have three stickers - wifi, usb charging and plug sockets...

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
06 Feb 2016, 5:58 pm #2,429

(05 Feb 2016, 12:51 pm)Michael Along with the changes GNE have relieved the new "Red Arrows" Branding.

Uploaded a pic but its blurry 


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Interestingly the new X21 timetable is in the rubbish style.. keeping the new branding under wraps for the time being?

Nobody seems to have noticed the additional sticker next to the wifi symbol.

New buses such as the Streetlites have three stickers - wifi, usb charging and plug sockets...


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

S813 FVK



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06 Feb 2016, 6:03 pm #2,430
(06 Feb 2016, 5:58 pm)Andreos1 Nobody seems to have noticed the additional sticker next to the wifi symbol.

New buses such as the Streetlites have three stickers - wifi, usb charging and plug sockets...

Its a sticker to indicate that the service has Next Stop Announcements, the Red Kite and C&C Streetlites had this sticker added not too long ago.
S813 FVK
06 Feb 2016, 6:03 pm #2,430

(06 Feb 2016, 5:58 pm)Andreos1 Nobody seems to have noticed the additional sticker next to the wifi symbol.

New buses such as the Streetlites have three stickers - wifi, usb charging and plug sockets...

Its a sticker to indicate that the service has Next Stop Announcements, the Red Kite and C&C Streetlites had this sticker added not too long ago.

Michael



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08 Feb 2016, 6:51 pm #2,431
PB0003954/538 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Ashington Bus Station and North Shields, Town Centre given service number 19 effective from 22-Feb-2016. To amend Route.

PB0003954/658 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Bedlington Station, Clayton Arms and Linton, First Row given service number 434 effective from 22-Feb-2016. To amend Route.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
08 Feb 2016, 6:51 pm #2,431

PB0003954/538 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Ashington Bus Station and North Shields, Town Centre given service number 19 effective from 22-Feb-2016. To amend Route.

PB0003954/658 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Bedlington Station, Clayton Arms and Linton, First Row given service number 434 effective from 22-Feb-2016. To amend Route.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

dannygee



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09 Feb 2016, 12:52 am #2,432
(08 Feb 2016, 6:51 pm)Michael PB0003954/538 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Ashington Bus Station and North Shields, Town Centre given service number 19 effective from 22-Feb-2016. To amend Route.

PB0003954/658 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Bedlington Station, Clayton Arms and Linton, First Row given service number 434 effective from 22-Feb-2016. To amend Route.

Theres a diversion at bedlington station
dannygee
09 Feb 2016, 12:52 am #2,432

(08 Feb 2016, 6:51 pm)Michael PB0003954/538 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Ashington Bus Station and North Shields, Town Centre given service number 19 effective from 22-Feb-2016. To amend Route.

PB0003954/658 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Bedlington Station, Clayton Arms and Linton, First Row given service number 434 effective from 22-Feb-2016. To amend Route.

Theres a diversion at bedlington station

Michael



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09 Feb 2016, 11:39 am #2,433
The 128 timetable has been uploaded to the GNE site: http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/75982.92 - it starts on 19th March and runs to the 29th October 2016.
Edited 09 Feb 2016, 11:40 am by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
09 Feb 2016, 11:39 am #2,433

The 128 timetable has been uploaded to the GNE site: http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/75982.92 - it starts on 19th March and runs to the 29th October 2016.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael



19,175
09 Feb 2016, 11:53 am #2,434
PB0002400/480 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between CASSOP, DEAN VIEW and ARNISON CENTRE given service number 59 effective from 02-Apr-2016.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
09 Feb 2016, 11:53 am #2,434

PB0002400/480 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between CASSOP, DEAN VIEW and ARNISON CENTRE given service number 59 effective from 02-Apr-2016.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jimmi



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09 Feb 2016, 11:58 am #2,435
(09 Feb 2016, 11:53 am)Michael PB0002400/480 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between CASSOP, DEAN VIEW and ARNISON CENTRE given service number 59 effective from 02-Apr-2016.

Wonder if GNE have lost the contract to another operator or if the contract has been dropped entirely?
Edited 09 Feb 2016, 12:00 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
09 Feb 2016, 11:58 am #2,435

(09 Feb 2016, 11:53 am)Michael PB0002400/480 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between CASSOP, DEAN VIEW and ARNISON CENTRE given service number 59 effective from 02-Apr-2016.

Wonder if GNE have lost the contract to another operator or if the contract has been dropped entirely?

Michael



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09 Feb 2016, 12:17 pm #2,436
(09 Feb 2016, 11:58 am)Jimmi Wonder if GNE have lost the contract to another operator or if the contract has been dropped entirely?

Not sure Jimmi, i'm not from the area so i have no idea what the passenger numbers are like. 

Maybe council cuts?.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
09 Feb 2016, 12:17 pm #2,436

(09 Feb 2016, 11:58 am)Jimmi Wonder if GNE have lost the contract to another operator or if the contract has been dropped entirely?

Not sure Jimmi, i'm not from the area so i have no idea what the passenger numbers are like. 

Maybe council cuts?.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

2bagstew



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09 Feb 2016, 8:32 pm #2,437
(09 Feb 2016, 12:17 pm)Michael Not sure Jimmi, i'm not from the area so i have no idea what the passenger numbers are like. 

Maybe council cuts?.

This service was paid out of the individual grant money that every DDC Councillor gets at the start of every financial year. The money has to used to benefit the local communities. This means that Cassop Quarrington Hill and Kelloe will not have a bus on a Sunday.
2bagstew
09 Feb 2016, 8:32 pm #2,437

(09 Feb 2016, 12:17 pm)Michael Not sure Jimmi, i'm not from the area so i have no idea what the passenger numbers are like. 

Maybe council cuts?.

This service was paid out of the individual grant money that every DDC Councillor gets at the start of every financial year. The money has to used to benefit the local communities. This means that Cassop Quarrington Hill and Kelloe will not have a bus on a Sunday.

09 Feb 2016, 10:09 pm #2,438
.....like most other rural communities in County Durham who lost weekday services after 8pm and all Sunday services from April 2011. The Sunday 59 and GNE 15 were exceptions, paid for in other ways.
Greg in Weardale
09 Feb 2016, 10:09 pm #2,438

.....like most other rural communities in County Durham who lost weekday services after 8pm and all Sunday services from April 2011. The Sunday 59 and GNE 15 were exceptions, paid for in other ways.

BusLoverMum



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09 Feb 2016, 11:05 pm #2,439
(09 Feb 2016, 11:53 am)Michael PB0002400/480 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between CASSOP, DEAN VIEW and ARNISON CENTRE given service number 59 effective from 02-Apr-2016.

Is the cassop - thornley/wheatley hill section the secured bit, then? Wonder what will happen to that.
BusLoverMum
09 Feb 2016, 11:05 pm #2,439

(09 Feb 2016, 11:53 am)Michael PB0002400/480 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between CASSOP, DEAN VIEW and ARNISON CENTRE given service number 59 effective from 02-Apr-2016.

Is the cassop - thornley/wheatley hill section the secured bit, then? Wonder what will happen to that.

Jimmi



10,975
09 Feb 2016, 11:17 pm #2,440
(09 Feb 2016, 11:05 pm)BusLoverMum Is the cassop - thornley/wheatley hill section the secured bit, then? Wonder what will happen to that.
By the sounds of things, some of those areas are going to be left with no Sunday bus service.
Jimmi
09 Feb 2016, 11:17 pm #2,440

(09 Feb 2016, 11:05 pm)BusLoverMum Is the cassop - thornley/wheatley hill section the secured bit, then? Wonder what will happen to that.
By the sounds of things, some of those areas are going to be left with no Sunday bus service.

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