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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2016

 
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26 Feb 2016, 10:23 pm #881
(26 Feb 2016, 9:29 pm)BusLoverMum The better ones are undoubtedly needed to replace GNE's own high floor Olympians!

Unless there's plans for any September acquisitions which will deal with that problem more efficiently.

Better to replace some 18 year old high-floor vehicles with some significantly younger buses, such as OmniDekkas, rather than the ex-London Presidents, which are just a couple of years their junior. More effective in the long run.
R852 PRG
26 Feb 2016, 10:23 pm #881

(26 Feb 2016, 9:29 pm)BusLoverMum The better ones are undoubtedly needed to replace GNE's own high floor Olympians!

Unless there's plans for any September acquisitions which will deal with that problem more efficiently.

Better to replace some 18 year old high-floor vehicles with some significantly younger buses, such as OmniDekkas, rather than the ex-London Presidents, which are just a couple of years their junior. More effective in the long run.

26 Feb 2016, 10:27 pm #882
(26 Feb 2016, 9:49 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Send them to washington get rid of the presidents especialy 6042

I'd have thought any further OmniDekkas heading north would be direct replacements for Olympians and Lolynes. Also, an element of depot standardisation would come into play; it would be better to have the OmniDekkas all based at Stanley (if possible) for engineering purposes. Personally, I can't see any going to Washington. Possibly, if more do cascade, 4 could enter service at Chester-le-Street as direct replacements for 3869/72/75/78. However, with depot standardisation in mind, it would be better to send 4 OmniDekkas to Stanley, and send 4 ex-London Presidents from Stanley to Chester-le-Street. All OmniDekkas are therefore located at Stanley, and 4 of Stanley's 6 B7TL Presidents are rehomed at Chester-le-Street, which already has a number of them allocated. The remaining pair could be sent elsewhere. Just my theory on what would happen, anyhow.
Edited 26 Feb 2016, 10:29 pm by R852 PRG.
R852 PRG
26 Feb 2016, 10:27 pm #882

(26 Feb 2016, 9:49 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Send them to washington get rid of the presidents especialy 6042

I'd have thought any further OmniDekkas heading north would be direct replacements for Olympians and Lolynes. Also, an element of depot standardisation would come into play; it would be better to have the OmniDekkas all based at Stanley (if possible) for engineering purposes. Personally, I can't see any going to Washington. Possibly, if more do cascade, 4 could enter service at Chester-le-Street as direct replacements for 3869/72/75/78. However, with depot standardisation in mind, it would be better to send 4 OmniDekkas to Stanley, and send 4 ex-London Presidents from Stanley to Chester-le-Street. All OmniDekkas are therefore located at Stanley, and 4 of Stanley's 6 B7TL Presidents are rehomed at Chester-le-Street, which already has a number of them allocated. The remaining pair could be sent elsewhere. Just my theory on what would happen, anyhow.

Davie

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26 Feb 2016, 10:27 pm #883
(26 Feb 2016, 10:23 pm)R852 PRG Better to replace some 18 year old high-floor vehicles with some significantly younger buses, such as OmniDekkas, rather than the ex-London Presidents, which are just a couple of years their junior. More effective in the long run.
Another reason could be reliability, the Omnidekka's are far more reliable than the B7 President's ino.
Davie
26 Feb 2016, 10:27 pm #883

(26 Feb 2016, 10:23 pm)R852 PRG Better to replace some 18 year old high-floor vehicles with some significantly younger buses, such as OmniDekkas, rather than the ex-London Presidents, which are just a couple of years their junior. More effective in the long run.
Another reason could be reliability, the Omnidekka's are far more reliable than the B7 President's ino.

BusLoverMum



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26 Feb 2016, 11:09 pm #884
(26 Feb 2016, 10:23 pm)R852 PRG Better to replace some 18 year old high-floor vehicles with some significantly younger buses, such as OmniDekkas, rather than the ex-London Presidents, which are just a couple of years their junior. More effective in the long run.

From a passenger PoV, the prised em
Nuts (what?) presidents are a comfy ride, though.

Still suffering with some really debilitating pain after last week's ride on the 6, though. The driver hated it, too.
BusLoverMum
26 Feb 2016, 11:09 pm #884

(26 Feb 2016, 10:23 pm)R852 PRG Better to replace some 18 year old high-floor vehicles with some significantly younger buses, such as OmniDekkas, rather than the ex-London Presidents, which are just a couple of years their junior. More effective in the long run.

From a passenger PoV, the prised em
Nuts (what?) presidents are a comfy ride, though.

Still suffering with some really debilitating pain after last week's ride on the 6, though. The driver hated it, too.

26 Feb 2016, 11:22 pm #885
(26 Feb 2016, 11:09 pm)BusLoverMum From a passenger PoV, the prised em
Nuts (what?) presidents are a comfy ride, though.

Still suffering with some really debilitating pain after last week's ride on the 6, though. The driver hated it, too.

Interesting. I can remember when I rode 6125 on it's first day in service, on an afternoon X30 from Lanchester to Stanley, where a driver changeover took place. I recall hearing the driver being relieved expressing how much he loved it. Looks like their novelty has worn off.
R852 PRG
26 Feb 2016, 11:22 pm #885

(26 Feb 2016, 11:09 pm)BusLoverMum From a passenger PoV, the prised em
Nuts (what?) presidents are a comfy ride, though.

Still suffering with some really debilitating pain after last week's ride on the 6, though. The driver hated it, too.

Interesting. I can remember when I rode 6125 on it's first day in service, on an afternoon X30 from Lanchester to Stanley, where a driver changeover took place. I recall hearing the driver being relieved expressing how much he loved it. Looks like their novelty has worn off.

26 Feb 2016, 11:23 pm #886
Actually any depots that operated Scania L94UBs should be able to cope with the Omnidekkas with no issue. The only difference to the single decker chassis is that the Omnidekka has the Scania N94UD chassis which means the engine is aligned differently.

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26 Feb 2016, 11:23 pm #886

Actually any depots that operated Scania L94UBs should be able to cope with the Omnidekkas with no issue. The only difference to the single decker chassis is that the Omnidekka has the Scania N94UD chassis which means the engine is aligned differently.


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26 Feb 2016, 11:31 pm #887
(26 Feb 2016, 11:22 pm)R852 PRG Interesting. I can remember when I rode 6125 on it's first day in service, on an afternoon X30 from Lanchester to Stanley, where a driver changeover took place. I recall hearing the driver being relieved expressing how much he loved it. Looks like their novelty has worn off.

I actually quite like the Omnidekkas. I always try and bag the rear door side seat on the lower deck when i'm on one just for that soft little arm rest (there is one on both sides but i can see more from the right).

Managed to resist the urge to correct you on something too lol.
Edited 26 Feb 2016, 11:33 pm by S813 FVK.
S813 FVK
26 Feb 2016, 11:31 pm #887

(26 Feb 2016, 11:22 pm)R852 PRG Interesting. I can remember when I rode 6125 on it's first day in service, on an afternoon X30 from Lanchester to Stanley, where a driver changeover took place. I recall hearing the driver being relieved expressing how much he loved it. Looks like their novelty has worn off.

I actually quite like the Omnidekkas. I always try and bag the rear door side seat on the lower deck when i'm on one just for that soft little arm rest (there is one on both sides but i can see more from the right).

Managed to resist the urge to correct you on something too lol.

26 Feb 2016, 11:33 pm #888
(26 Feb 2016, 11:31 pm)S813 FVK I actually quite like the Omnidekkas. I always try and bag the rear door side seat on the lower deck when i'm on one just for that soft little arm rest (there is one on both sides but i can see more from the right).

Same here, they sound like an Olympian, in my view. They have an amount of power that could match one, too. Don't think I've ever sat downstairs on one, however, always tend to have gone for my preferred spot, upstairs above the driver.
R852 PRG
26 Feb 2016, 11:33 pm #888

(26 Feb 2016, 11:31 pm)S813 FVK I actually quite like the Omnidekkas. I always try and bag the rear door side seat on the lower deck when i'm on one just for that soft little arm rest (there is one on both sides but i can see more from the right).

Same here, they sound like an Olympian, in my view. They have an amount of power that could match one, too. Don't think I've ever sat downstairs on one, however, always tend to have gone for my preferred spot, upstairs above the driver.

Jimmi



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26 Feb 2016, 11:37 pm #889
(26 Feb 2016, 11:33 pm)R852 PRG Same here, they sound like an Olympian, in my view. They have an amount of power that could match one, too. Don't think I've ever sat downstairs on one, however, always tend to have gone for my preferred spot, upstairs above the driver.
They've been alright when I've had them, although much like Omnicitys they do seem to shake a bit when they go over poor road surfaces. If I can't bag the front seat upstairs, I go for the one behind the staircase as there is good leg room there. Not been on many, since they entered service I've only really done a few journeys between the Metrocentre and Newcastle and once bagged one on the 15 to Durham.
Jimmi
26 Feb 2016, 11:37 pm #889

(26 Feb 2016, 11:33 pm)R852 PRG Same here, they sound like an Olympian, in my view. They have an amount of power that could match one, too. Don't think I've ever sat downstairs on one, however, always tend to have gone for my preferred spot, upstairs above the driver.
They've been alright when I've had them, although much like Omnicitys they do seem to shake a bit when they go over poor road surfaces. If I can't bag the front seat upstairs, I go for the one behind the staircase as there is good leg room there. Not been on many, since they entered service I've only really done a few journeys between the Metrocentre and Newcastle and once bagged one on the 15 to Durham.

BusLoverMum



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27 Feb 2016, 12:29 am #890
(26 Feb 2016, 11:33 pm)R852 PRG Same here, they sound like an Olympian, in my view. They have an amount of power that could match one, too. Don't think I've ever sat downstairs on one, however, always tend to have gone for my preferred spot, upstairs above the driver.

Can't argue with the power. They feel horribly unstable on bends, though (this from an omnicity lover) and the vibrations, on top of those seats, had me on the edge of tears. The old hip injury that had flared up in the past few weeks has progressd to trapped nerve symptoms, since then. I actually have numb patches of skin, which is a bad sign.
BusLoverMum
27 Feb 2016, 12:29 am #890

(26 Feb 2016, 11:33 pm)R852 PRG Same here, they sound like an Olympian, in my view. They have an amount of power that could match one, too. Don't think I've ever sat downstairs on one, however, always tend to have gone for my preferred spot, upstairs above the driver.

Can't argue with the power. They feel horribly unstable on bends, though (this from an omnicity lover) and the vibrations, on top of those seats, had me on the edge of tears. The old hip injury that had flared up in the past few weeks has progressd to trapped nerve symptoms, since then. I actually have numb patches of skin, which is a bad sign.

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27 Feb 2016, 1:09 am #891
All this talk of nigh on 2 decade old B7s is making me feel bloody old

I don't think they are awful buses in the engine sense but they are iextremely uncomfortable with poor leg room, a bouncy ride, freezing temps and I hate their daily allocation to the Angel (which deserves better!) Nothing worse than a B7 at rush hour on the 21. It also makes me like the hybrids....or a GCT Bluebird

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
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27 Feb 2016, 1:09 am #891

All this talk of nigh on 2 decade old B7s is making me feel bloody old

I don't think they are awful buses in the engine sense but they are iextremely uncomfortable with poor leg room, a bouncy ride, freezing temps and I hate their daily allocation to the Angel (which deserves better!) Nothing worse than a B7 at rush hour on the 21. It also makes me like the hybrids....or a GCT Bluebird


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Andreos1



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27 Feb 2016, 9:10 am #892
(27 Feb 2016, 1:09 am)Ambassador All this talk of nigh on 2 decade old B7s is making me feel bloody old

I don't think they are awful buses in the engine sense but they are iextremely uncomfortable with poor leg room, a bouncy ride, freezing temps and I hate their daily allocation to the Angel (which deserves better!) Nothing worse than a B7 at rush hour on the 21. It also makes me like the hybrids....or a GCT Bluebird

I think it was on Monday when I saw two of Chester's getting tlc from a fitter.
Whilst some are grim inside (and I dislike the positioning of the stairs), I don't mind getting one. Once going on a faster section of roas, I find they tend to ride well from experience.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
27 Feb 2016, 9:10 am #892

(27 Feb 2016, 1:09 am)Ambassador All this talk of nigh on 2 decade old B7s is making me feel bloody old

I don't think they are awful buses in the engine sense but they are iextremely uncomfortable with poor leg room, a bouncy ride, freezing temps and I hate their daily allocation to the Angel (which deserves better!) Nothing worse than a B7 at rush hour on the 21. It also makes me like the hybrids....or a GCT Bluebird

I think it was on Monday when I saw two of Chester's getting tlc from a fitter.
Whilst some are grim inside (and I dislike the positioning of the stairs), I don't mind getting one. Once going on a faster section of roas, I find they tend to ride well from experience.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Jimmi



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27 Feb 2016, 10:47 am #893
In case anyone is on the lookout, 9104 is currently on the 683 and 9106 is currently on the 682. Just managed to snap 9106 through the window on the 685!
Jimmi
27 Feb 2016, 10:47 am #893

In case anyone is on the lookout, 9104 is currently on the 683 and 9106 is currently on the 682. Just managed to snap 9106 through the window on the 685!

DanPicken

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27 Feb 2016, 10:56 am #894
(27 Feb 2016, 10:47 am)Jimmi In case anyone is on the lookout, 9104 is currently on the 683 and 9106 is currently on the 682. Just managed to snap 9106 through the window on the 685!

9105 is on 185/681.
DanPicken
27 Feb 2016, 10:56 am #894

(27 Feb 2016, 10:47 am)Jimmi In case anyone is on the lookout, 9104 is currently on the 683 and 9106 is currently on the 682. Just managed to snap 9106 through the window on the 685!

9105 is on 185/681.

DanPicken

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27 Feb 2016, 12:05 pm #895
(26 Feb 2016, 10:27 pm)Davie Another reason could be reliability, the Omnidekka's are far more reliable than the B7 President's ino.

Or so we thought, 6131 has failed at Metrocentre heading for Newcastle while on the 6. 8341 & 633 have both been taken out of service.
Edited 27 Feb 2016, 12:06 pm by DanPicken.
DanPicken
27 Feb 2016, 12:05 pm #895

(26 Feb 2016, 10:27 pm)Davie Another reason could be reliability, the Omnidekka's are far more reliable than the B7 President's ino.

Or so we thought, 6131 has failed at Metrocentre heading for Newcastle while on the 6. 8341 & 633 have both been taken out of service.

S813 FVK



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27 Feb 2016, 12:07 pm #896
(27 Feb 2016, 12:05 pm)DanPicken Or so we thought, 6131 has failed at Metrocentre heading for Newcastle while on the 6. 8341 & 633 have both been taken out of service.

1 breakdown does not mean a type of bus is unreliable.
S813 FVK
27 Feb 2016, 12:07 pm #896

(27 Feb 2016, 12:05 pm)DanPicken Or so we thought, 6131 has failed at Metrocentre heading for Newcastle while on the 6. 8341 & 633 have both been taken out of service.

1 breakdown does not mean a type of bus is unreliable.

27 Feb 2016, 1:09 pm #897
According to the news 542 has transferred to deptford

4842
Best bus ever
biglugs@yahoo.com
27 Feb 2016, 1:09 pm #897

According to the news 542 has transferred to deptford


4842
Best bus ever

DanPicken

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27 Feb 2016, 1:17 pm #898
(27 Feb 2016, 1:09 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com According to the news 542 has transferred to deptford

Anyone know what it will be allocated to?
DanPicken
27 Feb 2016, 1:17 pm #898

(27 Feb 2016, 1:09 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com According to the news 542 has transferred to deptford

Anyone know what it will be allocated to?

Michael



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27 Feb 2016, 1:18 pm #899
(27 Feb 2016, 1:09 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com According to the news 542 has transferred to deptford

The first Prince Bishop scania is now "Go North East" - 4945.

From the news.
Edited 27 Feb 2016, 1:19 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
27 Feb 2016, 1:18 pm #899

(27 Feb 2016, 1:09 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com According to the news 542 has transferred to deptford

The first Prince Bishop scania is now "Go North East" - 4945.

From the news.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

27 Feb 2016, 1:33 pm #900
(27 Feb 2016, 1:18 pm)Michael The first Prince Bishop scania is now "Go North East" - 4945.

From the news.

That was on the 2a Wednesday looky i got it in blue

4842
Best bus ever
biglugs@yahoo.com
27 Feb 2016, 1:33 pm #900

(27 Feb 2016, 1:18 pm)Michael The first Prince Bishop scania is now "Go North East" - 4945.

From the news.

That was on the 2a Wednesday looky i got it in blue


4842
Best bus ever

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