(12 Apr 2016, 2:41 pm)Michael wrote PB0003954/551 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Whitley Bay Metro and Meadow Well Avon avenue given service number W3 effective from 29-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Hmm wonder if its for the roadworks that are going to take place?

(12 Apr 2016, 10:52 am)Michael wrote PB0003954/470 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Hexham Aldi and Allenheads Heritage Centre given service number 688 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Timetable.

(12 Apr 2016, 11:53 am)G-CPTN wrote This is puzzling to me, as, although the start date corresponds with the start of the closure of Hexham railway bridge, there should be no impact - unless the road closure of Alemouth Road will affect Station Road.

There will, I suppose, inevitably be congestion due to traffic being diverted from Alemouth Road along Haugh Lane towards the West End (Two Mile Cottages) and vice versa, so, maybe the changes are in anticipation of delays?

My understanding is that the last bus from the Railway Station is being retimed to run ten minutes later to connect with the train from Newcastle, and the last bus from Allenheads is twenty minutes later.

On VOSA today: Seems to be the same ones as last time, expect the 135/136 is included...


PB0002400/291 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sunderland Park Lane Interchange and Newcastle New Bridge Street given service number 56/N56 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route.

PB0002400/405 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Doxford, International, Admiral Way and Pennywell, Prestbury Road given service number 39/39A effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/448 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sunderland Park Lane Interchange and Sunderland Park Lane Interchange given service number 135/136 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/551 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Vicarage Estate, Church View and Washington Galleries Bus Station given service number 2 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/552 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between DURHAM BUS STATION and SOUTH SHIELDS BUS STATION given service number 20/20A/X20 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route.

PB0002400/554 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between LOW MOORSLEY, FRONT STREET/CHESTER- LE- STREET and HEWORTH METRO given service number 35/35A/36 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route.

PB0002400/595 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sunderland Docks, Barrack Street and Silksworth, Church View given service number 33 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/505 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between North Shields Rudyard Street and Sunderland Park Lane interchange given service number 9 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route.

(16 Apr 2016, 10:20 am)Michael wrote On VOSA today: Seems to be the same ones as last time, expect the 135/136 is included...


PB0002400/291 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sunderland Park Lane Interchange and Newcastle New Bridge Street given service number 56/N56 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route.

PB0002400/405 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Doxford, International, Admiral Way and Pennywell, Prestbury Road given service number 39/39A effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/448 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sunderland Park Lane Interchange and Sunderland Park Lane Interchange given service number 135/136 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/551 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Vicarage Estate, Church View and Washington Galleries Bus Station given service number 2 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0002400/552 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between DURHAM BUS STATION and SOUTH SHIELDS BUS STATION given service number 20/20A/X20 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route.

PB0002400/554 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between LOW MOORSLEY, FRONT STREET/CHESTER- LE- STREET and HEWORTH METRO given service number 35/35A/36 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route.

PB0002400/595 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sunderland Docks, Barrack Street and Silksworth, Church View given service number 33 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/505 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between North Shields Rudyard Street and Sunderland Park Lane interchange given service number 9 effective from 31-May-2016. To amend Route.

I assume that means the Streetlites will be ready for the 20/20A/X20 by the start of June

(16 Apr 2016, 11:30 am)NK53 TKT wrote I assume that means the Streetlites will be ready for the 20/20A/X20 by the start of June

I don't think any have arrived yet, so it could be tight for them to be out at the start of June especially when 22 are arriving and have to have destinations programmed, driving familiarisation?? and branding applied, doesn't mean they can't be ready for then, just a lot has to be done before they enter service.

Not sure if GNE will want stop announcements ready for them entering service to or they'll installed at a later date.

(16 Apr 2016, 11:38 am)Michael wrote I don't think any have arrived yet, so it could be tight for them to be out at the start of June especially when 22 are arriving and have to have destinations programmed, driving familiarization and branding applied, doesn't mean they can't be ready for then, just a lot has to be done before they enter service.

Not sure if GNE will want stop announcements ready for them entering service to or they'll installed at a later date.

I think they'll be drip-fed into service, replacing Scania L94s week by week, similar to what happened when "Citylink" service 58 was upgraded. There's not enough room at Saltmeadows Road to store 22 new vehicles, however many vehicles are presently awaiting disposal, and of course vehicles present for bodyshop attention.

The Next Stop Announcements should be ready for the vehicles entering service, even if they are drip-fed. I'm led to believe that the 'spare' Streetlites will be allocated to the night bus N56 service as the Streetlites are more fuel-efficient than the Optare Versas presently allocated to this service and Go North East are also able to claim an enhanced BSOG payment for allocating Streetlites.

As such; the Streetlites will also have Next Stop Announcements programmed for services 56/N56, and the announcements on the Volvo B9TLs are due to be re-launched at the same time.

(16 Apr 2016, 11:44 am)Dan wrote I think they'll be drip-fed into service, replacing Scania L94s week by week, similar to what happened when "Citylink" service 58 was upgraded. There's not enough room at Saltmeadows Road to store 22 new vehicles, however many vehicles are presently awaiting disposal, and of course vehicles present for bodyshop attention.

The Next Stop Announcements should be ready for the vehicles entering service, even if they are drip-fed. I'm led to believe that the 'spare' Streetlites will be allocated to the night bus N56 service as the Streetlites are more fuel-efficient than the Optare Versas presently allocated to this service and Go North East are also able to claim an enhanced BSOG payment for allocating Streetlites.

As such; the Streetlites will also have Next Stop Announcements programmed for services 56/N56, and the announcements on the Volvo B9TLs are due to be re-launched at the same time.

, oh well, it was worth a guess, as that's what normally happens for any other new buses haha 

I do hope they don't change the colour or the branding for the Streetlites though.....

With the omnis (+2 red spare?) going to Washington, are there any plans to relocate some of the presidents? Surely 7 back up deckers are not required for the X1

(16 Apr 2016, 1:41 pm)JP6004 wrote With the omnis (+2 red spare?) going to Washington, are there any plans to relocate some of the presidents? Surely 7 back up deckers are not required for the X1

No red OmniCitys are transferring to Washington - that's just something which has been incorrectly suggested by enthusiasts! The Optare Versas and Scania L94 4935 will transfer to Riverside tonight.

Remember that 6040 is only at Washington in a float/reserve capacity, and as soon as the modifications to the Red Arrows Volvo B9TLs are complete, 6040 will either be withdrawn or transferred to another depot to serve a similar purpose (Percy Main would be a good shout - to cover for 3859 which has been withdrawn).

Three of the six (excluding 6040) Volvo B7TLs are allocated to scholars/misc works boards, meaning that just three are actually spare. Really, these are covering a PVR of 18 (15 for Red Arrows X1, 3 for scholars), and as Go North East usually allocate one spare vehicle for every 8, it's probably about right having three spare B7s at Washington, especially given their age.

The three Scania L94s at Washington will provide cover for a PVR of 29 (11 for Connections4, 11 for Whey Aye Five 0 and 7 for 82/82A). The Volvo B7s are likely to pick up the shortfall on the Whey Aye Five 0 and 82/82A, when all three Scania L94s have been allocated.

Thanks for clearing that up 

Well, DanP will still have a chance to get 4935 on the 88 if he hasnt already

PB0002400/307 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sunderland Park Lane Interchange and Parkside Heathway given service number 60 effective from 22-May-2016. To amend Timetable.

PB0002400/596 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Durham Railway Station
Finish Point: Chester-Le-Street, Emirates Durham International Cricket Ground
Via:
Service Number: 500
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 27-MAY-2016
Other Details: To run daily from Friday 27th May 2016 until Tuesday 31st May 2016 for the England versu Sri Lanka Investec Test Series Cricket

PB0002400/597 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Lambton Park
Finish Point: Chester-Le-Street, Emirates Durham International Cricket Ground
Via:
Service Number: 501
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 27-MAY-2016
Other Details: To run daily from Friday 27th May 2016 until Tuesday 31st May 2016 for the England versu Sri Lanka Investec Test Series Cricket

PB0002400/288 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sunderland, Park Lane Interchange and Hartlepool, Marina Way given service number X35 effective from 05-Jun-2016. To amend Timetable.

Changes within 2 weeks of each other first change is on the 22nd May, both are - To amend Timetable.

When the Streetlites enter service at Deptford, could they end up being used for some normal Fab 56 runs as well as the N56 during the evenings and depending whats on (football, good weather etc), Sundays?

(22 Apr 2016, 4:04 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote When the Streetlites enter service at Deptford, could they end up being used for some normal Fab 56 runs as well as the N56 during the evenings and depending whats on (football, good weather etc), Sundays?

Knowing my luck the two spare's will be on the majority of the time.

(22 Apr 2016, 4:04 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote When the Streetlites enter service at Deptford, could they end up being used for some normal Fab 56 runs as well as the N56 during the evenings and depending whats on (football, good weather etc), Sundays?

Yes, the N56 will be operated by the two red spare Streetlites.

They'll have the Next Stop Announcements programmed for the daytime 56 too, but I doubt it will be a regular allocation as the two red Volvo B9TLs are usually sufficient.

They won't have the announcements programmed for the Drifter just yet, but I imagine they will be allocated to service 60 a fair bit, if a branded vehicle is unavailable and the Streetlite isn't needed on the 20.

(22 Apr 2016, 4:06 pm)Dan wrote Yes, the N56 will be operated by the two red spare Streetlites.

They'll have the Next Stop Announcements programmed for the daytime 56 too, but I doubt it will be a regular allocation as the two red Volvo B9TLs are usually sufficient.

They won't have the announcements programmed for the Drifter just yet, but I imagine they will be allocated to service 60 a fair bit, if a branded vehicle is unavailable and the Streetlite isn't needed on the 20.

I don't agree with brand dilution but if given that the PVR of the Fab 56 stands at 5 vehicles during the evenings for instance, could GNE not end up allocating the 2x red Streetlites on a regular basis (every evening if available) given that they're the same specification (including e-leather seating) to save on fuel costs vs a heavy duty B9TL?

(22 Apr 2016, 6:24 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote I don't agree with brand dilution but if given that the PVR of the Fab 56 stands at 5 vehicles during the evenings for instance, could GNE not end up allocating the 2x red Streetlites on a regular basis (every evening if available) given that they're the same specification (including e-leather seating) to save on fuel costs vs a heavy duty B9TL?

No - as you say, it would dilute the brand. The only journey on service 56 which should be operated by a red Streetlite is the one which runs onto the N56 service.

Hopefully changes are put online this week, as its now less than a month until they come in to force.

(25 Apr 2016, 9:16 am)Michael wrote Hopefully changes are put online this week, as its now less than a month until they come in to force.

New timetables are now going online for the Sunderland changes.


Currently in the black and white format.

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One surprise in the changes is the 38 dropping to hourly (combined between Park Lane and Hollycarrside Hewitt Avenue half hourly with the 238)


X36 dropping to hourly, no surprise tbh.

2/2A - now half hourly (every 15 minutes combined) - 39 is now part of the timetable. 

33 - every 15 minutes between: Sunderland Fawcett Street - Vicarage Estate Church View - half hourly to the docks.

61 - back to half hourly on Sundays

(25 Apr 2016, 10:18 am)Michael wrote New timetables are now going online for the Sunderland changes.


Currently in the black and white format.

Is the timetables only showing rectangles for anyone else? Just looked at the 2/39 and 8/8A and 9 timetables and this is what I could see:

(25 Apr 2016, 10:29 am)Jimmi wrote Is the timetables only showing rectangles for anyone else? Just looked at the 2/39 and 8/8A and 9 timetables and this is what I could see:

Working alright for me, it might be the PDF thing.

Not sure though

(25 Apr 2016, 10:18 am)Michael wrote New timetables are now going online for the Sunderland changes.


Currently in the black and white format.

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One surprise in the changes is the 38 dropping to hourly (combined between Park Lane and Hollycarrside Hewitt Avenue half hourly with the 238)


X36 dropping to hourly, no surprise tbh.

2/2A - now half hourly (every 15 minutes combined) - 39 is now part of the timetable. 

33 - every 15 minutes between: Sunderland Fawcett Street - Vicarage Estate Church View - half hourly to the docks.

61 - back to half hourly on Sundays

Full details:

http://www.simplygo.com/news/changes-to-...ay-22-may/

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Might of got these right, not sure:

Sunderland PVR’s from 22nd May
 
2/2A – 10 PVR
33 – 3 PVR
35/36 – 13 PVR
38/238 – 4 PVR
X36 – 2 PVR


Rest remain the same.

(25 Apr 2016, 10:55 am)Michael wrote Full details:

http://www.simplygo.com/news/changes-to-...ay-22-may/

Wonder if the Versa's left spare from the reduction in service on the 2, will see use on the 39?

I haven't looked at the PVR, but if they are apreparing on the same timetable...

Interesting to see the North Sunderland changes happening- again.
When will they crack it?

(25 Apr 2016, 11:45 am)Andreos1 wrote Wonder if the Versa's left spare from the reduction in service on the 2, will see use on the 39?

I haven't looked at the PVR, but if they are apreparing on the same timetable...

Interesting to see the North Sunderland changes happening- again.
When will they crack it?

Won't be enough, the 39 will need 7 buses, in total 17 Versa's could be needed..... unless they take the ones from the 34/34A to make up the PVR however my bet will be Scania's from the 20/20A ONCE the streetlites enter service, will go on the 39. 


The Versa's could go on the 33, if I've got the PVR right or they could also be used as spares. 


The Spare Citaro(s) - 1 stays at Deptford for the 35/36/60, 1 to Washington or Riverside.

MPD's stay on the 38/238

X36 dropped from the Fast Cats?

(25 Apr 2016, 11:54 am)Michael wrote Won't be enough, the 39 will need 7 buses, in total 17 Versa's could be needed..... unless they take the ones from the 34/34A to make up the PVR however my bet will be Scania's from the 20/20A ONCE the streetlites enter service, will go on the 39. 


The Versa's could go on the 33, if I've got the PVR right or they could also be used as spares. 


The Spare Citaro(s) - 1 stays at Deptford for the 35/36/60, 1 to Washington or Riverside.

MPD's stay on the 38/238

X36 dropped from the Fast Cats?

Apparently it will be, however, we all know how much rubbish people talk. It'll probs be vest to wait and see what happens.

(25 Apr 2016, 12:02 pm)Davie wrote Apparently it will be, however, we all know how much rubbish people talk. It'll probs be vest to wait and see what happens.

Wouldn't be surprised if it did.

Looks like Deptford's PVR is going to reduce by 9 with the new changes. Have worked the new PVR's out:

2/2A- 10
33- 3
35- 8
36- 6
38- 1
39- 7
X36- 2

(25 Apr 2016, 11:54 am)Michael wrote Won't be enough, the 39 will need 7 buses, in total 17 Versa's could be needed..... unless they take the ones from the 34/34A to make up the PVR however my bet will be Scania's from the 20/20A ONCE the streetlites enter service, will go on the 39. 


The Versa's could go on the 33, if I've got the PVR right or they could also be used as spares. 


The Spare Citaro(s) - 1 stays at Deptford for the 35/36/60, 1 to Washington or Riverside.

MPD's stay on the 38/238

X36 dropped from the Fast Cats?

Does the 39 need the capacity offered by a Solar - particularly when it operates via two of the most congested bus corridors in Sunderland.

Thanks for confirming PVR.

(25 Apr 2016, 1:51 pm)Andreos1 wrote Does the 39 need the capacity offered by a Solar - particularly when it operates via two of the most congested bus corridors in Sunderland.

Thanks for confirming PVR.

Not sure Andreos, i was just thinking about the Cadets getting replaced and it seems likely the Scania's would do that, i could be wrong of cause, same as the PVR's