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citaro5284   05 Nov 2016, 5:58 pm
(05 Nov 2016, 5:52 pm)Michael wrote Was the modifictions to allow the buses to be hotter during Autumn and Winter?

Nah - cold air in the Winter and hot air in the summer  Tongue
BusLoverMum   05 Nov 2016, 6:39 pm
(05 Nov 2016, 5:58 pm)citaro5284 wrote Nah - cold air in the Winter and hot air in the summer  Tongue

You may joke... Undecided
Jamie M   05 Nov 2016, 7:14 pm
(05 Nov 2016, 5:58 pm)citaro5284 wrote Nah - cold air in the Winter and hot air in the summer  [emoji14]
6136 is cold air in both! [SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH]

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Ambassador   05 Nov 2016, 8:24 pm
3(!) 21s leaving Eldon Sq just gone. None for a half hour.

Would love to know the excuse behind that one (beside we can't plan properly for fireworks or match day traffic)

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
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TEN 6083   05 Nov 2016, 8:29 pm
Anyone know what was happening with the X21's today as I was waiting at Durham for one to Bishop Auckland as one Newcastle bound came out of the bus station as I was the going into it then about 5 minutes later another Newcastle bound X21 came in. This was at around 1pm.


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citaro5284   05 Nov 2016, 8:35 pm
(05 Nov 2016, 8:24 pm)Ambassador wrote 3(!) 21s leaving Eldon Sq just gone. None for a half hour.

Would love to know the excuse behind that one (beside we can't plan properly for fireworks or match day traffic)

Stick a complaint in asking what has happened to these buses and why you have had to wait for so long.
Crusader   05 Nov 2016, 8:50 pm
(05 Nov 2016, 8:24 pm)Ambassador wrote 3(!) 21s leaving Eldon Sq just gone. None for a half hour.

Would love to know the excuse behind that one (beside we can't plan properly for fireworks or match day traffic)

Surely you've just answered your own question there - Saltwell Fireworks and match day traffic. How would you like GNE to plan for it? It isn't really practical to have a different timetable for each special event happening otherwise there would be a different schedule every day of the year
citaro5284   05 Nov 2016, 8:58 pm
(05 Nov 2016, 8:50 pm)Crusader wrote Surely you've just answered your own question there - Saltwell Fireworks and match day traffic. How would you like GNE to plan for it? It isn't really practical to have a different timetable for each special event happening otherwise there would be a different schedule every day of the year

At the same time, Saltwell Park Firework display happens every year, so this should be taken into account and even have extra buses/drivers on standby to assist without having to put a different timetable in would help.
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Ambassador   05 Nov 2016, 9:01 pm
(05 Nov 2016, 8:50 pm)Crusader wrote Surely you've just answered your own question there - Saltwell Fireworks and match day traffic. How would you like GNE to plan for it? It isn't really practical to have a different timetable for each special event happening otherwise there would be a different schedule every day of the year

You'd think but thus isnt a one off. It's all the time, not just tonight, From now to January the already massively unreliable 21 will be even more so unreliable.

Turn around buses at gateshead, direct passengers to specific F1 services 

They need to increase the 21 pvr, invest more in passenger support, they cannot maintain a fictional 7 min frequency , on a counter more dirty unreliable B7s aren't acceptable to passengers 

They've a near monopoly on Durham Rd and they act like it,

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ryan99   05 Nov 2016, 9:08 pm
(05 Nov 2016, 9:32 am)Dan wrote It will be allocated to service 238 for the time being.


Corporate liveried Scania L94s. The new service 9 has a PVR of 6 and should be allocated the existing corporate liveried Scania L94 at Deptford (4936, 4937, 4945, 4946, 4954, 4955) or the Scania L94s joining the fleet this weekend all being well (4961, 4962, 4963, 4964). Service 38 should also be allocated one of these Scania L94s.

Other services at Deptford which are allocated Scania L94s are:

Service 39 - 4969, 4976, 4990, 4991, 4992, 5213, 5213.
Service X35 - 5204 - 5209, 5211

The above Scania L94s are all Euro 5 and hence should be covered by 4989, 5214 or 5215 in the event that any branded vehicle is VOR.


Only two spares for service 1, but Percy Main are only allocated two dedicated spares for the Coaster at present anyway? So no difference there.

The spares for Blue Arrow 11 will become Volvo B7RLEs - from Sunday, two of these are now spare on weekdays. So, again, it's no different to the present situation (as 4963 and 4964 are the only spares for the Blue Arrow 11 at the moment).

What about vykings 3978-82
Malarkey   05 Nov 2016, 9:29 pm
3964/3983/6084 & 6133 were on the F1 to Saltwell Park this evening, I believe 3972 iirc was supposed to be allocated also but incurred a fault on the layover at Gateshead Interchange.
Crusader   05 Nov 2016, 9:42 pm
(05 Nov 2016, 9:01 pm)Ambassador wrote You'd think but thus isnt a one off. It's all the time, not just tonight, From now to January the already massively unreliable 21 will be even more so unreliable.

Turn around buses at gateshead, direct passengers to specific F1 services 

They need to increase the 21 pvr, invest more in passenger support, they cannot maintain a fictional 7 min frequency , on a counter more dirty unreliable B7s aren't acceptable to passengers 

They've a near monopoly on Durham Rd and they act like it,

What monitoring have you undertaken to make a statement that the 21 is massively unreliable and a 7 minute headway cannot be maintained? Have you checked all of the bus departure times against the timetables over a number of days, or are you just talking about a few trips you have seen/used?

I know that GNE have put a lot of effort into improving the reliability of the service recently and whilst there will always be sometimes it doesn't run well for whatever reason, it is now very reliable. 

I'll give you the point about the B7's though, they're awful
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Dan   06 Nov 2016, 10:58 am
(05 Nov 2016, 9:08 pm)Ryan99 wrote What about vykings 3978-82

They remain allocated to scholars / Misc Works services - which no longer interwork with service 9.
Michael   06 Nov 2016, 11:02 am
(06 Nov 2016, 10:58 am)Dan wrote They remain allocated to scholars / Misc Works services - which no longer interwork with service 9.

They'll be on the 39 alot at peak times for the extra runs, since they've moved over from Washington to Deptford... i wish the passengers - good luck.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
johnwingate   06 Nov 2016, 11:50 am
yesterday i travelled wingate to peterlee on x7  at 9.46am journey there was a few people already on the bus by the time we left wingate it was pretty full i think another operator should look at running a service peterlee shotton colliery wingate etc possibly billingham stockton middlesbrough as i think this would pay and it would give shotton its link back to stockton middlesbrough and its link to wingate if go north east are not looking at it maybe some other operator big or small should
Ryan99   06 Nov 2016, 1:23 pm
When's the brand going to be released for 33/39
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Michael   06 Nov 2016, 1:47 pm
(06 Nov 2016, 1:23 pm)Ryan99 wrote When's the brand going to be released for 33/39

.... Dan already anwsered this yesterday.


http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...p?tid=1895&page=11

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Dan   06 Nov 2016, 2:15 pm
(06 Nov 2016, 11:02 am)Michael wrote They'll be on the 39 alot at peak times for the extra runs, since they've moved over from Washington to Deptford... i wish the passengers - good luck.

As I know someone was after photos of Volvo B7s before... The running boards for the five Volvo B7TLs at Deptford, from tomorrow, are as follows. There is one spare Volvo B7 to cover the PVR:

Running Board 1:
07:45 #458 (Monkwearmouth - St Roberts)
15:25 #458 (St Roberts - Monkwearmouth)
16:25 #39A (Doxford International - Pennywell)
17:21 #39 (Pennywell - Doxford International)

Running Board 2:
07:45 #454 (Easington Lane - St Roberts)
15:25 #454 (St Roberts - Easington Lane)
17:10 #8 (Enterprise Park - Sunderland)
17:39 #X35 (Doxford International - Sunderland)

Running Board 3:
07:30 #457 (Cleadon - St Roberts)
15:05 #422 (Broadway Junior School - Hastings Hill)
15:40 #525 (Whitburn Comp - South Shields)
16:30 #960 (Waterview Park - South Shields)

Running Board 4:
07:24 #265 (Seaham - Framwellgate Moor)
15:45 #265 (Durham - Seaham)
17:04 #X35 (Doxford International - Sunderland)



(06 Nov 2016, 1:47 pm)Michael wrote .... Dan already anwsered this yesterday.


http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...p?tid=1895&page=11

I merely gave a suggestion as to why the buses mightn't have been branded yet! Seems plausible to me!  Rolleyes
S813 FVK   06 Nov 2016, 2:33 pm
Talking of B7s, you don't happen to know which one has been/is going to be transferred to Stanley do you?
Dan   06 Nov 2016, 2:46 pm
(06 Nov 2016, 2:33 pm)S813 FVK wrote Talking of B7s, you don't happen to know which one has been/is going to be transferred to Stanley do you?

6032.

Other transfers which have taken place today can be found on the link below:
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/news/?operator=2

The fleet lists have been updated too - some people would have you believe that our fleet lists aren't very good and can't be relied upon for information... I beg to differ - they're update to the hour!
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S813 FVK   06 Nov 2016, 3:30 pm
(06 Nov 2016, 2:46 pm)Dan wrote The fleet lists have been updated too - some people would have you believe that our fleet lists aren't very good and can't be relied upon for information... I beg to differ - they're update to the hour!

6009 is still shown as being at Washington: http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=6009
Dan   06 Nov 2016, 3:31 pm
(06 Nov 2016, 3:30 pm)S813 FVK wrote 6009 is still shown as being at Washington: http://northeastbuses.co.uk/fleet/item.php?operatorF=2&fleetnoF=6009

You're not helping me prove a point here!

I blame the merger to the new news system for that one slipping through the net - it's now been sorted! Wink
Michael   06 Nov 2016, 3:32 pm
Thanks for the info Dan.

422 is my old school bus Tongue

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
S813 FVK   06 Nov 2016, 3:39 pm
(06 Nov 2016, 3:31 pm)Dan wrote You're not helping me prove a point here!

I blame the merger to the new news system for that one slipping through the net - it's now been sorted! Wink

Soz Tongue You should certainly be able to make statement without opposition now - that was the only issue that I could find Smile
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South Tyne Lad   06 Nov 2016, 7:44 pm
(06 Nov 2016, 2:15 pm)Dan wrote As I know someone was after photos of Volvo B7s before... The running boards for the five Volvo B7TLs at Deptford, from tomorrow, are as follows. There is one spare Volvo B7 to cover the PVR:

Running Board 1:
07:45 #458 (Monkwearmouth - St Roberts)
15:25 #458 (St Roberts - Monkwearmouth)
16:25 #39A (Doxford International - Pennywell)
17:21 #39 (Pennywell - Doxford International)

Running Board 2:
07:45 #454 (Easington Lane - St Roberts)
15:25 #454 (St Roberts - Easington Lane)
17:10 #8 (Enterprise Park - Sunderland)
17:39 #X35 (Doxford International - Sunderland)

Running Board 3:
07:30 #457 (Cleadon - St Roberts)
15:05 #422 (Broadway Junior School - Hastings Hill)
15:40 #525 (Whitburn Comp - South Shields)
16:30 #960 (Waterview Park - South Shields)

Running Board 4:
07:24 #265 (Seaham - Framwellgate Moor)
15:45 #265 (Durham - Seaham)
17:04 #X35 (Doxford International - Sunderland)


Does the morning run still run onto the Prince Bishops? If so is it allocated a Streetlite?

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Ds1197   06 Nov 2016, 10:25 pm
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My kind of bad version of the black cats brand it would look better if had Photoshop and didn't have to make them on powerpoint
Gnebuspro91   06 Nov 2016, 10:56 pm
Im new to this i wud like to say somthing about the 9 from were i live boldon why have a 9 bus hourly to north shields then half hourly at nyt very quiet at nyt and i see thew passngers from north shields
Ds1197   06 Nov 2016, 11:15 pm
(06 Nov 2016, 10:56 pm)Gnebuspro91 wrote Im new to this i wud like to say somthing about the 9 from were i live boldon why have a 9 bus hourly to north shields then half hourly at nyt very quiet at nyt and i see thew passngers from north shields

Because of the nexus contact is only between Jarrow and North Shields and during the day it gets every 30 minutes between these parts and core part of the route gets the highest frequency.


I think each board on the 9 runs like this

#1 Sunderland-Jarrow
#2 Jarrow-Sunderland
#3 Sunderland-North Shields
#4 North Shields-Jarrow
#5 Jarrow-North Shields
#6 North Shields-Sunderland
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Ambassador   07 Nov 2016, 7:11 am
First proper ride on 6140 doing the honours on the 21.

Firstly, good ride, nice power and some added variety.

However, the trim on the seats is absolutely shocking, something I'd expect from GCT or a school bus company. Seats are dirty and completely worn, many are torn to bits,especially on corners. Really disappointing they've been allowed to enter service like this, especially on a high profile route

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
LeeCalder   07 Nov 2016, 8:43 am
Does Chester'a 885 run onto anything? Just saw Lolyne 3872 on that service
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