September Service Changes
September Service Changes
(01 Sep 2021, 12:33 pm)big mac With the layover, possibly that is the reason, although the layover time is only three minutes. So, if it did stop at St Andrew's Church it would probably just be coming in, picking the passengers up and going straight back out again rather than being parked up at the stop for a long period.My guess is that it won't have enough time in the timetable to go up John Dobson St, around Haymarket and down to Newgate St. I can't remember how long the N21 is given to run from Gateshead to Newcastle but you're talking a good 4/5mins to go around the top which would cut any and all layover time and probably leave the service running late.
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(01 Sep 2021, 12:33 pm)big mac With the layover, possibly that is the reason, although the layover time is only three minutes. So, if it did stop at St Andrew's Church it would probably just be coming in, picking the passengers up and going straight back out again rather than being parked up at the stop for a long period.My guess is that it won't have enough time in the timetable to go up John Dobson St, around Haymarket and down to Newgate St. I can't remember how long the N21 is given to run from Gateshead to Newcastle but you're talking a good 4/5mins to go around the top which would cut any and all layover time and probably leave the service running late.
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(01 Sep 2021, 6:31 pm)streetdeckfan So do we know what vehicles will be used on the 47/47A yet?No, if I were to pluck buses out of Consetts allocation it would be 6301-03 & 6338-40. But who knows what fleet movements will take place this weekend.
(01 Sep 2021, 7:27 pm)Stanleyone No, if I were to pluck buses out of Consetts allocation it would be 6301-03 & 6338-40. But who knows what fleet movements will take place this weekend.
(01 Sep 2021, 7:27 pm)Stanleyone No, if I were to pluck buses out of Consetts allocation it would be 6301-03 & 6338-40. But who knows what fleet movements will take place this weekend.
(01 Sep 2021, 7:54 pm)streetdeckfan I can't imagine them taking from X-Lines, so the older StreetDecks could be a shout. Would mean less of a downgrade for passengers as wellWill they not get the left over G2's from the Coaster, speaking of G2's where are they going. Bar the Durham Diamond
(01 Sep 2021, 8:38 pm)Keeiajs Will they not get the left over G2's from the Coaster, speaking of G2's where are they going.Theyre euro 5, exept for 6064. The only other deckers I can think of are permanently buying 9056-9061 from ensign bus and upgrading them to euro 6 and refurbishing them (New Seat cushions, USB ports & NSAs, tbh the new GNE Moquette will go great with the Lothian floor red handles) aswell as a repaint and of course recieving new GNE Fleet numbers (6177-6182 If 9068 isn't kept or if it is 6178-6183), they'd be a good addition as they're reliable & comfortable. Tbh 9056-9061 would be the best bet for an allocation for the 47/47A.
(01 Sep 2021, 8:38 pm)Keeiajs Will they not get the left over G2's from the Coaster, speaking of G2's where are they going.Theyre euro 5, exept for 6064. The only other deckers I can think of are permanently buying 9056-9061 from ensign bus and upgrading them to euro 6 and refurbishing them (New Seat cushions, USB ports & NSAs, tbh the new GNE Moquette will go great with the Lothian floor red handles) aswell as a repaint and of course recieving new GNE Fleet numbers (6177-6182 If 9068 isn't kept or if it is 6178-6183), they'd be a good addition as they're reliable & comfortable. Tbh 9056-9061 would be the best bet for an allocation for the 47/47A.
(01 Sep 2021, 9:15 pm)GNE6312 Theyre euro 5, exept for 6064. The only other deckers I can think of are permanently buying 9056-9061 from ensign bus and upgrading them to euro 6 and refurbishing them (New Seat cushions, USB ports & NSAs, tbh the new GNE Moquette will go great with the Lothian floor red handles) aswell as a repaint and of course recieving new GNE Fleet numbers (6177-6182 If 9068 isn't kept or if it is 6178-6183), they'd be a good addition as they're reliable & comfortable. Tbh 9056-9061 would be the best bet for an allocation for the 47/47A.They are on 6 months loan, so they will be gone by the end of the month.
(01 Sep 2021, 9:15 pm)GNE6312 Theyre euro 5, exept for 6064. The only other deckers I can think of are permanently buying 9056-9061 from ensign bus and upgrading them to euro 6 and refurbishing them (New Seat cushions, USB ports & NSAs, tbh the new GNE Moquette will go great with the Lothian floor red handles) aswell as a repaint and of course recieving new GNE Fleet numbers (6177-6182 If 9068 isn't kept or if it is 6178-6183), they'd be a good addition as they're reliable & comfortable. Tbh 9056-9061 would be the best bet for an allocation for the 47/47A.They are on 6 months loan, so they will be gone by the end of the month.
(01 Sep 2021, 7:54 pm)streetdeckfan I can't imagine them taking from X-Lines, so the older StreetDecks could be a shout. Would mean less of a downgrade for passengers as well
(01 Sep 2021, 7:54 pm)streetdeckfan I can't imagine them taking from X-Lines, so the older StreetDecks could be a shout. Would mean less of a downgrade for passengers as well
(01 Sep 2021, 9:31 pm)Storx I can personally, there's literally no other route for the rest of the B5LH's to go on other than the X5/X15 where there's Euro 6 buses which easily could be on the 47/47A instead. The fact they've got plans to put a bid in for electric buses on there in a few years time would be enough time for when the B5LH's are expired and are ready for school work, similar with the Coast Road deckers.So what is GNE's ebus plans. Personally after the investment Consett has gotten they should stay away from that for atleast 4 years.
(01 Sep 2021, 9:31 pm)Storx I can personally, there's literally no other route for the rest of the B5LH's to go on other than the X5/X15 where there's Euro 6 buses which easily could be on the 47/47A instead. The fact they've got plans to put a bid in for electric buses on there in a few years time would be enough time for when the B5LH's are expired and are ready for school work, similar with the Coast Road deckers.So what is GNE's ebus plans. Personally after the investment Consett has gotten they should stay away from that for atleast 4 years.
(01 Sep 2021, 9:37 pm)Keeiajs So what is GNE's ebus plans. Personally after the investment Consett has gotten they should stay away from that for atleast 4 years.
(01 Sep 2021, 9:37 pm)Keeiajs So what is GNE's ebus plans. Personally after the investment Consett has gotten they should stay away from that for atleast 4 years.
(01 Sep 2021, 10:44 pm)streetdeckfan Why?And also theres more than Xlines based at consett...
Investment should be made on the most profitable routes. If the routes in Consett are making enough money to cover the cost of new vehicles, then they should get them. Those still relatively new buses can then be cascaded onto routes which they otherwise wouldn't be able to justify financially.
(01 Sep 2021, 10:44 pm)streetdeckfan Why?And also theres more than Xlines based at consett...
Investment should be made on the most profitable routes. If the routes in Consett are making enough money to cover the cost of new vehicles, then they should get them. Those still relatively new buses can then be cascaded onto routes which they otherwise wouldn't be able to justify financially.
(01 Sep 2021, 10:57 pm)JP6004 And also theres more than Xlines based at consett...
(01 Sep 2021, 10:44 pm)streetdeckfan Why?But that doesn't mean they can get a new buses every 3-4 years. X5/X15 isn't even that busy. Tbh I never see the X45/46/47 & X70/71/30/31 particularly busy. There are other routes in other areas which are busy which are running buses which are 9 years old. Not barely 10 month old.
Investment should be made on the most profitable routes. If the routes in Consett are making enough money to cover the cost of new vehicles, then they should get them. Those still relatively new buses can then be cascaded onto routes which they otherwise wouldn't be able to justify financially.
(01 Sep 2021, 10:44 pm)streetdeckfan Why?But that doesn't mean they can get a new buses every 3-4 years. X5/X15 isn't even that busy. Tbh I never see the X45/46/47 & X70/71/30/31 particularly busy. There are other routes in other areas which are busy which are running buses which are 9 years old. Not barely 10 month old.
Investment should be made on the most profitable routes. If the routes in Consett are making enough money to cover the cost of new vehicles, then they should get them. Those still relatively new buses can then be cascaded onto routes which they otherwise wouldn't be able to justify financially.
(02 Sep 2021, 7:45 am)Keeiajs But that doesn't mean they can get a new buses every 3-4 years. X5/X15 isn't even that busy. Tbh I never see the X45/46/47 & X70/71/30/31 particularly busy. There are other routes in other areas which are busy which are running buses which are 9 years old. Not barely 10 month old.
(02 Sep 2021, 7:45 am)Keeiajs But that doesn't mean they can get a new buses every 3-4 years. X5/X15 isn't even that busy. Tbh I never see the X45/46/47 & X70/71/30/31 particularly busy. There are other routes in other areas which are busy which are running buses which are 9 years old. Not barely 10 month old.
(01 Sep 2021, 9:25 pm)Keeiajs They are on 6 months loan, so they will be gone by the end of the month.What's to stop them converting the other B5's to euro 6 like 6064. then there will be no problem using them on 47/47A. And am I right in saying the cez for Newcastle has been delayed until next year. Plenty of time to convert the rest of the batch to euro 6.
But there is a PVR of 9 on the 16, so there are 6-7 spares, are they going anywhere. Possible a upgrade to a service. Or the 47/47A. I personally would send the spare to Washington & Deptford. And if they do loose StreetDecks have all 3-4 go to Washington for the X1 Extenstion.
(01 Sep 2021, 9:25 pm)Keeiajs They are on 6 months loan, so they will be gone by the end of the month.What's to stop them converting the other B5's to euro 6 like 6064. then there will be no problem using them on 47/47A. And am I right in saying the cez for Newcastle has been delayed until next year. Plenty of time to convert the rest of the batch to euro 6.
But there is a PVR of 9 on the 16, so there are 6-7 spares, are they going anywhere. Possible a upgrade to a service. Or the 47/47A. I personally would send the spare to Washington & Deptford. And if they do loose StreetDecks have all 3-4 go to Washington for the X1 Extenstion.
(02 Sep 2021, 10:06 am)ian foster What's to stop them converting the other B5's to euro 6 like 6064. then there will be no problem using them on 47/47A. And am I right in saying the cez for Newcastle has been delayed until next year. Plenty of time to convert the rest of the batch to euro 6.Idk how long it would take. 6064 was at EYMS for a while. 6-12 months I think it was there, well that is what it felt like.
(02 Sep 2021, 10:06 am)ian foster What's to stop them converting the other B5's to euro 6 like 6064. then there will be no problem using them on 47/47A. And am I right in saying the cez for Newcastle has been delayed until next year. Plenty of time to convert the rest of the batch to euro 6.Idk how long it would take. 6064 was at EYMS for a while. 6-12 months I think it was there, well that is what it felt like.
(02 Sep 2021, 10:09 am)Keeiajs Idk how long it would take. 6064 was at EYMS for a while. 6-12 months I think it was there, well that is what it felt like.Probably a lot less than 6064 as it was experimental and the first one and was also held up by the pandemic.
(01 Sep 2021, 9:15 pm)GNE6312 Theyre euro 5, exept for 6064. The only other deckers I can think of are permanently buying 9056-9061 from ensign bus and upgrading them to euro 6 and refurbishing them (New Seat cushions, USB ports & NSAs, tbh the new GNE Moquette will go great with the Lothian floor red handles) aswell as a repaint and of course recieving new GNE Fleet numbers (6177-6182 If 9068 isn't kept or if it is 6178-6183), they'd be a good addition as they're reliable & comfortable. Tbh 9056-9061 would be the best bet for an allocation for the 47/47A.9068 is allox 6175
(01 Sep 2021, 9:15 pm)GNE6312 Theyre euro 5, exept for 6064. The only other deckers I can think of are permanently buying 9056-9061 from ensign bus and upgrading them to euro 6 and refurbishing them (New Seat cushions, USB ports & NSAs, tbh the new GNE Moquette will go great with the Lothian floor red handles) aswell as a repaint and of course recieving new GNE Fleet numbers (6177-6182 If 9068 isn't kept or if it is 6178-6183), they'd be a good addition as they're reliable & comfortable. Tbh 9056-9061 would be the best bet for an allocation for the 47/47A.9068 is allox 6175
