(23 Jan 2023, 9:53 pm)Unber43 wrote On paper the 22/23 should be ran by GNE, and tbh the only reason they get passengers is if a GNE bus is either quite late or they're going past Dalton Park. Even for Peterlee to Sunderland, students get free travel so that helps the numbers however a lot of them just used to get the 62/X6.

See personally I think it should be the other way round. Arriva are the stronger operator in East Durham especially Peterlee and the Western sides of the routes in Durham.

If it was just one operator then you could do something like:

22 - X6 Sunderland to Peterlee then current route (Every 30 minutes)
23 - No Changes
61 - No Changes (Every 30 Minutes
60 - No Changes (Every 15 Minutes)
23/60/61 - Every 7.5 Minutes combined. 
X6 - Withdrawn

Would tidy it up nicely with the 23/60/61being the 'local' route and the 22 being the Peterlee to Sunderland bus.

(23 Jan 2023, 5:58 pm)Unber43 wrote Pretty sure 71 is being ran by Deptford from today as there is two graphites on it

Washington have graphite solo's on loan.

(23 Jan 2023, 4:44 pm)Storx wrote I think you got this mixed up mind. From what I'm aware it was more about drivers moving to depots they want rather than the routes. 

The routes at inappropiate depots was because certain depots in particular Washington had too many drivers whereas others ie. Riverside had too little. 

Now it's been 6 month I'd imagine things have changed with drivers leaving etc so the routes can be moved to more appropriate depots.

This was my understanding also however in order to start moving routes to new depots again that’s going to require drivers to spend time route learning at the new depots and for drivers at the old depots to learn the routes that remain at the old depot if they have not already. That would be fine but there are STILL short notice cancellations due to a lack of drivers. Surely the focus should be on running a service first and foremost. It doesn’t matter to passengers which depot the us is suppose I come from if it doesn’t turn up.

Will the X66 get branded again for the Metrocentre - once the B7's go and is replaced by the spare E200MMC's?


What else has moved around and been withdrawn today?

(29 Jan 2023, 4:51 pm)Michael wrote Will the X66 get branded again for the Metrocentre - once the B7's go and is replaced by the spare E200MMC's?


What else has moved around and been withdrawn today?

Ah so 97 will now be reduced permanently, with 57. 

And the 96 passengers have had a massive downgrade.

(29 Jan 2023, 5:26 pm)Unber43 wrote Ah so 97 will now be reduced permanently, with 57. 

And the 96 passengers have had a massive downgrade.

The 96 appears to be interworking with the 49/49A now so it's going to have on whatever that has on.

(29 Jan 2023, 5:26 pm)Unber43 wrote Ah so 97 will now be reduced permanently, with 57. 

And the 96 passengers have had a massive downgrade.

The 96 has been interworking with the 49 for months now. You’re a bit late in catching onto that ‘massive downgrade’.

The 97 remains a temporary reduction.


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Passed the 17:09 78 from Stanley which now terminates at Shiney Row 3 times in the last week. Each time the bus has shown Chester-le-Street as the destination.

Was a Shiney Row display actually created? I can't see drivers using the wrong one 3 times.

(06 Feb 2023, 5:42 pm)S813 FVK wrote Passed the 17:09 78 from Stanley which is now terminates at Shiney Row 3 times in the last week. Every time the bus has shown Chester-le-Street as the destination.

Was a Shiney Row display actually created? I can't see drivers using the wrong display 3 times.

Pretty sure a similar thing happened with the 1 when the Metro was off the route ended at Tynemouth showed Whitley Bay for basically the entire time it was closed except the final week.

Happened to my neighbour too, his 310 said North Shields but was only going as far as Norham Road, Norham Road is quite long, so dont know who they could get round that tbh

(06 Feb 2023, 5:49 pm)Unber43 wrote Pretty sure a similar thing happened with the 1 when the Metro was off the route ended at Tynemouth showed Whitley Bay for basically the entire time it was closed except the final week.

This was true for a day

2nd day showed North Shields for about 3 days I'd say https://flic.kr/p/2ofACS8

Then finally it got the Tynemouth board https://flic.kr/p/2nzu3dF

Does anyone else think that big text where it says e.g Tynemouth, North Sheilds, Blackhall Mill looks quite bad.

Honestly I like the big text for a short-terminating route. It makes it stand out that it isn't going the full journey.

(06 Feb 2023, 8:30 pm)Jack Gill wrote Honestly I like the big text for a short-terminating route. It makes it stand out that it isn't going the full journey.

Not that anyone reads it, of course....

(06 Feb 2023, 8:30 pm)Jack Gill wrote Honestly I like the big text for a short-terminating route. It makes it stand out that it isn't going the full journey.

When they trialled it in 2019 I kinda liked it tbh. But I dont like the font they use now

(06 Feb 2023, 8:26 pm)Unber43 wrote Does anyone else think that big text where it says e.g Tynemouth, North Sheilds, Blackhall Mill looks quite bad.

North Sheilds doesnt exist, however, North Shields does

(06 Feb 2023, 5:42 pm)S813 FVK wrote Passed the 17:09 78 from Stanley which now terminates at Shiney Row 3 times in the last week. Each time the bus has shown Chester-le-Street as the destination.

Was a Shiney Row display actually created? I can't see drivers using the wrong one 3 times.

The morning 819N scholars runs every morning as 819 Lanchester either laziness on the drivers part or another route not even programmed in.


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(06 Feb 2023, 9:26 pm)V514DFT wrote North Sheilds doesnt exist, however, North Shields does

I always spell North Shields wrong

(06 Feb 2023, 8:26 pm)Unber43 wrote Does anyone else think that big text where it says e.g Tynemouth, North Sheilds, Blackhall Mill looks quite bad.

If it is a long route it looks bad, but if it is a short route it does make sense

Surely the Sunderland changes should be ready now lol

(09 Feb 2023, 3:25 pm)Acky81 wrote Surely the Sunderland changes should be ready now lol

Sunderland changes are not happening now , well nothing before at least May possibly

(08 Feb 2023, 4:43 pm)pbjd wrote The morning 819N scholars runs every morning as 819 Lanchester either laziness on the drivers part or another route not even programmed in.


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The 819 is programmed, but Lanchester is first in the list.


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(09 Feb 2023, 4:17 pm)Retro Nero wrote Sunderland changes are not happening now , well nothing before at least May possibly

How come?

(09 Feb 2023, 4:17 pm)Retro Nero wrote Sunderland changes are not happening now , well nothing before at least May possibly

Sunday 14th May 2023 ive heard,but i think its probably bollocks

(09 Feb 2023, 9:17 pm)Acky81 wrote How come?

By the sounds of things they never existed. Sunderland changes at this time of year usually happen around the Nexus tenders which if I'm right is May which is probably where that date is coming from unless it's small timetable changes - similar in Gateshead.

See: https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...may-366066 or https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...s-14605205 the year before for example

North Tyneside will be the next changes that'll happen if there's any which is always March.

Where did the 50A used to go

(10 Feb 2023, 11:05 am)Unber43 wrote Where did the 50A used to go

Used to do bits of the 8 in an evening and miss Nissan out.

See here: http://www.travelnortheast.co.uk/downloa...50-TBD.pdf

(10 Feb 2023, 11:19 am)Storx wrote Used to do bits of the 8 in an evening and miss Nissan out.

See here: http://www.travelnortheast.co.uk/downloa...50-TBD.pdf

ah thanks

(10 Feb 2023, 11:05 am)Unber43 wrote Where did the 50A used to go

Yeah, basically via Boldon Cinema to Testoes Then A19 to A1231 Washington Highway into Waterview Park then A1231 the Galleries

(10 Feb 2023, 11:50 am)Retro Nero wrote Yeah, basically via Boldon Cinema to Testoes Then A19 to A1231 Washington Highway into Waterview Park then A1231 the Galleries

Just before the 50A got cancelled, it got routed through Cherry Blossom Way, then serving Nissan after Waterview Park. It used to pick up a few regular customers for the Amazpn depot along there.

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