Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
New Idea (I'll leave the number up to whoever):
Newcastle, Crowther, Ayton, Lambton, The Galleries, Washington Village, Fatfield, Harraton, Picktree, Woodstone Village, Rainton Bridge, Hetton Park, Hetton-Le-Hole, Low Moorsley.
Would Operate Non-Stop from Central Station to Crowther via Redheugh Bridge, A1 & A1231.
Would Operate Non-Stop from Picktree Village to Lumley New Road via A183 & Forge Road.
Would Operate Non-Stop from Woodstone Village to Rainton Bridge via Black Boy Road.
PVR is 3 for an Hourly Service, would be allocated a Streetlite or Solo SR from Washington.
(25 Mar 2023, 4:42 pm)ASX_Terranova New Idea (I'll leave the number up to whoever):Just to clarify, is this all the same service, or 2 seperate services
Newcastle, Crowther, Ayton, Lambton, The Galleries, Washington Village, Fatfield, Harraton, Picktree, Woodstone Village, Rainton Bridge, Hetton Park, Hetton-Le-Hole, Low Moorsley.
Would Operate Non-Stop from Central Station to Crowther via Redheugh Bridge, A1 & A1231.
Would Operate Non-Stop from Picktree Village to Lumley New Road via A183 & Forge Road.
Would Operate Non-Stop from Woodstone Village to Rainton Bridge via Black Boy Road.
PVR is 3 for an Hourly Service, would be allocated a Streetlite or Solo SR from Washington.
(25 Mar 2023, 4:42 pm)ASX_Terranova New Idea (I'll leave the number up to whoever):Just to clarify, is this all the same service, or 2 seperate services
Newcastle, Crowther, Ayton, Lambton, The Galleries, Washington Village, Fatfield, Harraton, Picktree, Woodstone Village, Rainton Bridge, Hetton Park, Hetton-Le-Hole, Low Moorsley.
Would Operate Non-Stop from Central Station to Crowther via Redheugh Bridge, A1 & A1231.
Would Operate Non-Stop from Picktree Village to Lumley New Road via A183 & Forge Road.
Would Operate Non-Stop from Woodstone Village to Rainton Bridge via Black Boy Road.
PVR is 3 for an Hourly Service, would be allocated a Streetlite or Solo SR from Washington.
(25 Mar 2023, 6:11 pm)V514DFT Just to clarify, is this all the same service, or 2 seperate services
(25 Mar 2023, 6:11 pm)V514DFT Just to clarify, is this all the same service, or 2 seperate services
New X20
Park Lane - Houghton Church via 20 route serving all stops.
Then follows A690 nonstop until Carville.
Carville - Eden Terrace (Durham City Retail Park) serving all stops.
Eden Terrace - North Road via Belmont link road to A690 and direct to Milburngate Bridge.
North Road - Chester-Le Street via X21 route.
Chester Le Street - Lumley Church via Picktree Lane, A167 and Lumley New Road.
Then Lumley Church - Chilton Moor Front Street via Front Street and Black Boy Road.
Chilton Moor Front Street - Houghton Church via Dairy Lane.
Houghton Church - Park Lane via 20 route serving all stops.
X20A is the reverse of above both operating every 30 minutes providing a bus every 15 minutes between park lane and Houghton, an alternative bus between Houghton and Chester, a through bus from Lumley to Durham and coordinating with x21 between Durham and Chester to give an express bus every 15 minutes.
PVR 8-9 depending on either a 6 or 21 minute layover in Sunderland
Estimated timing included below.
It shouldn't be serving every stop from Sunderland to Houghton, it should be Park Lane, University, Barnes, Bede, Prospect Non-Stop to Houghton.
Service 4 - reduced to every half hour Mon - Sat, hourly evenings and Sundays
New Service 4A - Houghton-le-Spring - Herrington Burn - Shiney Row - Penshaw - Fatfield Bridge - Fallowfield Way - Washington Arts Centre - Glebe - Washington Galleries - Albany - Concord - Donwell - Usworth College - Follingsby Park - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service X4 - Easington Lane - Hetton le Hole - Houghton le Spring - Fence Houses - Bournmoor - Shiney Row - Biddick Woods - Washington Galleries - Springwell Village - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth Metro - Gateshead (via Felling-by-pass) - Newcastle (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
Service X1 - To maintain current route but reduced to half hourly Mon - Sun, evenings hourly alongside X4
New Services 74 and 75 (Replacing Service 8)
New Service 74 - Washington Galleries - Glebe -Washington Village - Barmston Waskerley Road - Barmston Village Centre - A1231 Slip road - Waterview Park - Teal Farm - Castletown - Hylton Riverside Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service 75- Washington Galleries - Biddick - Teal Farm - Waterview Park - Castletown - Trimdon Street Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly)
Option to extend 74 and 75 to Silksworth or run a new seperate service.
Service 2 - renumbered to 76 - Washington Galleries - Lambton - Harraton - Fatfield Bridge - Barnwell - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) - extend to Biddick on evenings. This service would serve Barnwell instead of Penshaw and Shiney Row, which would be served by the Service 77.
New Service 77 - Stanley - Beamish - West Pellton - Pelton - Chester le Street - Picktree - Rickleton - Harraton - Washington Arts Centre - Fallowfield Way - Fatfield Bridge - Penshaw - Shiney Row - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sun half hourly, evenings hourly)
Revised Service 83 - Chester le Street - Birtley - Portobello - Barley Mow - Rickleton - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Concord - Sulgrave - Peel Retail Park - Waterview Park (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) Option to extend to Stanley and Beamish
Service 50 - As a result of these proposed new services and service changes, Service 50 will no longer serve Harraton, and Rickleton Village Centre. Service 50 would be rerouted to serve Washington Hospital and continue to serve Picktree. This would allow for journeys to be more direct and improve reliablility.
(28 Mar 2023, 4:08 pm)Washingtonian Service 4 - reduced to every half hour Mon - Sat, hourly evenings and SundaysWhat about the existing 74? Suppose you could add a 1 in so it becomes the 714
New Service 4A - Houghton-le-Spring - Herrington Burn - Shiney Row - Penshaw - Fatfield Bridge - Fallowfield Way - Washington Arts Centre - Glebe - Washington Galleries - Albany - Concord - Donwell - Usworth College - Follingsby Park - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service X4 - Easington Lane - Hetton le Hole - Houghton le Spring - Fence Houses - Bournmoor - Shiney Row - Biddick Woods - Washington Galleries - Springwell Village - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth Metro - Gateshead (via Felling-by-pass) - Newcastle (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
Service X1 - To maintain current route but reduced to half hourly Mon - Sun, evenings hourly alongside X4
New Services 74 and 75 (Replacing Service 8)
New Service 74 - Washington Galleries - Glebe -Washington Village - Barmston Waskerley Road - Barmston Village Centre - A1231 Slip road - Waterview Park - Teal Farm - Castletown - Hylton Riverside Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service 75- Washington Galleries - Biddick - Teal Farm - Waterview Park - Castletown - Trimdon Street Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly)
Option to extend 74 and 75 to Silksworth or run a new seperate service.
Service 2 - renumbered to 76 - Washington Galleries - Lambton - Harraton - Fatfield Bridge - Barnwell - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) - extend to Biddick on evenings. This service would serve Barnwell instead of Penshaw and Shiney Row, which would be served by the Service 77.
New Service 77 - Stanley - Beamish - West Pellton - Pelton - Chester le Street - Picktree - Rickleton - Harraton - Washington Arts Centre - Fallowfield Way - Fatfield Bridge - Penshaw - Shiney Row - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sun half hourly, evenings hourly)
Revised Service 83 - Chester le Street - Birtley - Portobello - Barley Mow - Rickleton - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Concord - Sulgrave - Peel Retail Park - Waterview Park (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) Option to extend to Stanley and Beamish
Service 50 - As a result of these proposed new services and service changes, Service 50 will no longer serve Harraton, and Rickleton Village Centre. Service 50 would be rerouted to serve Washington Hospital and continue to serve Picktree. This would allow for journeys to be more direct and improve reliablility.
(28 Mar 2023, 4:08 pm)Washingtonian Service 4 - reduced to every half hour Mon - Sat, hourly evenings and SundaysWhat about the existing 74? Suppose you could add a 1 in so it becomes the 714
New Service 4A - Houghton-le-Spring - Herrington Burn - Shiney Row - Penshaw - Fatfield Bridge - Fallowfield Way - Washington Arts Centre - Glebe - Washington Galleries - Albany - Concord - Donwell - Usworth College - Follingsby Park - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service X4 - Easington Lane - Hetton le Hole - Houghton le Spring - Fence Houses - Bournmoor - Shiney Row - Biddick Woods - Washington Galleries - Springwell Village - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth Metro - Gateshead (via Felling-by-pass) - Newcastle (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
Service X1 - To maintain current route but reduced to half hourly Mon - Sun, evenings hourly alongside X4
New Services 74 and 75 (Replacing Service 8)
New Service 74 - Washington Galleries - Glebe -Washington Village - Barmston Waskerley Road - Barmston Village Centre - A1231 Slip road - Waterview Park - Teal Farm - Castletown - Hylton Riverside Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service 75- Washington Galleries - Biddick - Teal Farm - Waterview Park - Castletown - Trimdon Street Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly)
Option to extend 74 and 75 to Silksworth or run a new seperate service.
Service 2 - renumbered to 76 - Washington Galleries - Lambton - Harraton - Fatfield Bridge - Barnwell - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) - extend to Biddick on evenings. This service would serve Barnwell instead of Penshaw and Shiney Row, which would be served by the Service 77.
New Service 77 - Stanley - Beamish - West Pellton - Pelton - Chester le Street - Picktree - Rickleton - Harraton - Washington Arts Centre - Fallowfield Way - Fatfield Bridge - Penshaw - Shiney Row - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sun half hourly, evenings hourly)
Revised Service 83 - Chester le Street - Birtley - Portobello - Barley Mow - Rickleton - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Concord - Sulgrave - Peel Retail Park - Waterview Park (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) Option to extend to Stanley and Beamish
Service 50 - As a result of these proposed new services and service changes, Service 50 will no longer serve Harraton, and Rickleton Village Centre. Service 50 would be rerouted to serve Washington Hospital and continue to serve Picktree. This would allow for journeys to be more direct and improve reliablility.
(28 Mar 2023, 3:51 pm)Unber43 It shouldn't be serving every stop from Sunderland to Houghton, it should be Park Lane, University, Barnes, Bede, Prospect Non-Stop to Houghton.The Sunderland-Durham via A690 section takes 43 minutes each way. Realistically no one is going to go from Sunderland to Durham via Lumley and Chester. That’s not what it’s for. That section is for shorter hops.
It should be 35-40 mins going to Durham not 60 mins
There needs to also be smh done about Rainton bridge its been totally cut off, barely any buses early morning/ late days (especially on Sundays)
(28 Mar 2023, 3:51 pm)Unber43 It shouldn't be serving every stop from Sunderland to Houghton, it should be Park Lane, University, Barnes, Bede, Prospect Non-Stop to Houghton.The Sunderland-Durham via A690 section takes 43 minutes each way. Realistically no one is going to go from Sunderland to Durham via Lumley and Chester. That’s not what it’s for. That section is for shorter hops.
It should be 35-40 mins going to Durham not 60 mins
There needs to also be smh done about Rainton bridge its been totally cut off, barely any buses early morning/ late days (especially on Sundays)
(28 Mar 2023, 4:24 pm)V514DFT What about the existing 74? Suppose you could add a 1 in so it becomes the 714
(28 Mar 2023, 4:24 pm)V514DFT What about the existing 74? Suppose you could add a 1 in so it becomes the 714
I really didnt know where to put this but what is up with Hexhams 1003, it tracks as if it's not a route and GNE doesn't even have it on their website. Yet I've just seen a photo of Halswhistle 1003, destination display on a bus. But I just thought this was like a private hire when I saw it on bus times or thought it was driver change over for 681 (which is pretty stupid thought) but like why isn't it on the website or anything and how often does it run?? If a more suitable thread please move it
(28 Mar 2023, 8:30 pm)nova347 I really didnt know where to put this but what is up with Hexhams 1003, it tracks as if it's not a route and GNE doesn't even have it on their website. Yet I've just seen a photo of Halswhistle 1003, destination display on a bus. But I just thought this was like a private hire when I saw it on bus times or thought it was driver change over for 681 (which is pretty stupid thought) but like why isn't it on the website or anything and how often does it run?? If a more suitable thread please move itLooks to be a closed door scholars contract for the school in Hexham.
(28 Mar 2023, 8:30 pm)nova347 I really didnt know where to put this but what is up with Hexhams 1003, it tracks as if it's not a route and GNE doesn't even have it on their website. Yet I've just seen a photo of Halswhistle 1003, destination display on a bus. But I just thought this was like a private hire when I saw it on bus times or thought it was driver change over for 681 (which is pretty stupid thought) but like why isn't it on the website or anything and how often does it run?? If a more suitable thread please move itLooks to be a closed door scholars contract for the school in Hexham.
Interesting idea, how about sending the 27 to felling square.
I Have attached a screenshot showing the potential new route.
(29 Mar 2023, 1:16 pm)ASX_Terranova Interesting idea, how about sending the 27 to felling square.
I Have attached a screenshot showing the potential new route.
(29 Mar 2023, 1:16 pm)ASX_Terranova Interesting idea, how about sending the 27 to felling square.
I Have attached a screenshot showing the potential new route.
(29 Mar 2023, 5:05 pm)ifm001 V514DFTDidnt the 27 serve Felling Square once upon a time?Yeah, i knew it was either the 27 or the 527, i know it was a while back now though
Not the 27 in its present state and neither its predecessors the 532. The original 527 did which went to Marlborough/Central Station via Windy Nook/ Deckham etc.
(29 Mar 2023, 5:05 pm)ifm001 V514DFTDidnt the 27 serve Felling Square once upon a time?Yeah, i knew it was either the 27 or the 527, i know it was a while back now though
Not the 27 in its present state and neither its predecessors the 532. The original 527 did which went to Marlborough/Central Station via Windy Nook/ Deckham etc.
(28 Mar 2023, 4:08 pm)Washingtonian Service 4 - reduced to every half hour Mon - Sat, hourly evenings and Sundays
New Service 4A - Houghton-le-Spring - Herrington Burn - Shiney Row - Penshaw - Fatfield Bridge - Fallowfield Way - Washington Arts Centre - Glebe - Washington Galleries - Albany - Concord - Donwell - Usworth College - Follingsby Park - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service X4 - Easington Lane - Hetton le Hole - Houghton le Spring - Fence Houses - Bournmoor - Shiney Row - Biddick Woods - Washington Galleries - Springwell Village - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth Metro - Gateshead (via Felling-by-pass) - Newcastle (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
Service X1 - To maintain current route but reduced to half hourly Mon - Sun, evenings hourly alongside X4
New Services 75 and 75A (Replacing Service 8)
New Service 75 - Washington Galleries - Glebe -Washington Village - Barmston Waskerley Road - Barmston Village Centre - A1231 Slip road - Waterview Park - Teal Farm - Castletown - Hylton Riverside Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service 75A- Washington Galleries - Biddick - Teal Farm - Waterview Park - Castletown - Trimdon Street Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly)
Option to extend 74 and 75 to Silksworth or run a new seperate service.
Service 2 - renumbered to 76 - Washington Galleries - Lambton - Harraton - Fatfield Bridge - Barnwell - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) - extend to Biddick on evenings. This service would serve Barnwell instead of Penshaw and Shiney Row, which would be served by the Service 77.
New Service 77 - Stanley - Beamish - West Pellton - Pelton - Chester le Street - Picktree - Rickleton - Harraton - Washington Arts Centre - Fallowfield Way - Fatfield Bridge - Penshaw - Shiney Row - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sun half hourly, evenings hourly)
Revised Service 83 - Chester le Street - Birtley - Portobello - Barley Mow - Rickleton - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Concord - Sulgrave - Peel Retail Park - Waterview Park (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) Option to extend to Stanley and Beamish
Service 50 - As a result of these proposed new services and service changes, Service 50 will no longer serve Harraton, and Rickleton Village Centre. Service 50 would be rerouted to serve Washington Hospital and continue to serve Picktree. This would allow for journeys to be more direct and improve reliablility.
(28 Mar 2023, 4:08 pm)Washingtonian Service 4 - reduced to every half hour Mon - Sat, hourly evenings and Sundays
New Service 4A - Houghton-le-Spring - Herrington Burn - Shiney Row - Penshaw - Fatfield Bridge - Fallowfield Way - Washington Arts Centre - Glebe - Washington Galleries - Albany - Concord - Donwell - Usworth College - Follingsby Park - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service X4 - Easington Lane - Hetton le Hole - Houghton le Spring - Fence Houses - Bournmoor - Shiney Row - Biddick Woods - Washington Galleries - Springwell Village - Leam Lane/Lingey Lane - Heworth Metro - Gateshead (via Felling-by-pass) - Newcastle (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
Service X1 - To maintain current route but reduced to half hourly Mon - Sun, evenings hourly alongside X4
New Services 75 and 75A (Replacing Service 8)
New Service 75 - Washington Galleries - Glebe -Washington Village - Barmston Waskerley Road - Barmston Village Centre - A1231 Slip road - Waterview Park - Teal Farm - Castletown - Hylton Riverside Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly)
New Service 75A- Washington Galleries - Biddick - Teal Farm - Waterview Park - Castletown - Trimdon Street Retail Park - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat hourly)
Option to extend 74 and 75 to Silksworth or run a new seperate service.
Service 2 - renumbered to 76 - Washington Galleries - Lambton - Harraton - Fatfield Bridge - Barnwell - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) - extend to Biddick on evenings. This service would serve Barnwell instead of Penshaw and Shiney Row, which would be served by the Service 77.
New Service 77 - Stanley - Beamish - West Pellton - Pelton - Chester le Street - Picktree - Rickleton - Harraton - Washington Arts Centre - Fallowfield Way - Fatfield Bridge - Penshaw - Shiney Row - Hastings Hill - Sunderland Royal Hospital - Sunderland Interchange (Mon - Sun half hourly, evenings hourly)
Revised Service 83 - Chester le Street - Birtley - Portobello - Barley Mow - Rickleton - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Concord - Sulgrave - Peel Retail Park - Waterview Park (Mon - Sat half hourly, evenings and Sundays hourly) Option to extend to Stanley and Beamish
Service 50 - As a result of these proposed new services and service changes, Service 50 will no longer serve Harraton, and Rickleton Village Centre. Service 50 would be rerouted to serve Washington Hospital and continue to serve Picktree. This would allow for journeys to be more direct and improve reliablility.
Mine is a straightforward suggestion.
For the buses running as service numbers 84 and 85 in Washington:
84 - to run in a continuous clockwise loop
85 - to run in a continuous anti-clockwise loop.
Presently, the two service numbers interoperate in that service number 84 runs from Concord in a clockwise direction Concord - Barmston - Columbia - Galleries - Oxclose - Blackfell - Concord while the 85 runs in the opposite (anti-clockwise) direction Concord - Blackfell - Oxclose - Galleries - Columbia - Barmston - Concord. Once a service returns back to Concord (eg the 84), the bus then changes to the other service number (eg the 85) and effectively doubles back on the route it has just travelled from. My suggestion would be to have the 84 run in a continuous clockwise route (i.e. don't change to the 85 when back at Concord) with the 85 doing likewise in an anti-clockwise route. This will help speed up travelling times between places which are near the start of one one service route (for example, Peel Retail Park on the 84) and near the end of the other service route (for example Donwell on the 85). Presently to travel from Donwell to Peel is a 40 minute journey. This would change to a 10 minute journey (plus layover times at Concord).
It also helps make it easier to track a bus on the app. At present, if I am at Concord waiting for the 84 I have to track the 85 to see where it is. It is the same for the 85 at Concord, I have to track the 84 to see where it is. With buses travelling in a constant loop under one route number this would not be necessary.
The 84 / 85 also serves Coach Road Estate once an hour. This would continue.
As per above, the actual route the 84 and 85 cover would remain the same. The change would be to how buses cover those two service numbers.
(29 Mar 2023, 1:16 pm)ASX_Terranova Interesting idea, how about sending the 27 to felling square.That harks back to the bad old days of the 80s when Sunderland road had no buses because Metro.
I Have attached a screenshot showing the potential new route.
(29 Mar 2023, 1:16 pm)ASX_Terranova Interesting idea, how about sending the 27 to felling square.That harks back to the bad old days of the 80s when Sunderland road had no buses because Metro.
I Have attached a screenshot showing the potential new route.
