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(23 Apr 2023, 11:39 am)cbma06 How many bus services that are ran by Hartlepool depot are actually commercial and how many are secured contract?, and are most evenings and Sundays just secured contracts?, has anyone got a listLike I put in the last post all of them the 1 3/3A 6 and 7 are all commercial.
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(23 Apr 2023, 11:39 am)cbma06 How many bus services that are ran by Hartlepool depot are actually commercial and how many are secured contract?, and are most evenings and Sundays just secured contracts?, has anyone got a listLike I put in the last post all of them the 1 3/3A 6 and 7 are all commercial.
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(23 Apr 2023, 12:45 pm)col87 Like I put in the last post all of them the 1 3/3A 6 and 7 are all commercial.
the 20 980 and UTC are all contract services. All Sunday and Evening services are commercial as well hence they are not many services at all after 6:30 an hourly service 1 a split service 7 from Owton Manor and half a service 6 been the only services on an evening using a total of about 5-6 buses if that.
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(23 Apr 2023, 12:45 pm)col87 Like I put in the last post all of them the 1 3/3A 6 and 7 are all commercial.
the 20 980 and UTC are all contract services. All Sunday and Evening services are commercial as well hence they are not many services at all after 6:30 an hourly service 1 a split service 7 from Owton Manor and half a service 6 been the only services on an evening using a total of about 5-6 buses if that.
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Not sure if anyone has noticed but 22885 Has Gone To Hartlepool On Loan
(24 Apr 2023, 1:08 pm)col87 That’s interesting then as it was tracking on the 6 earlier. Saying that I don’t many are tracking properly at the moment.
(24 Apr 2023, 1:08 pm)col87 That’s interesting then as it was tracking on the 6 earlier. Saying that I don’t many are tracking properly at the moment.
(16 Apr 2023, 9:15 pm)Dyllan7817 The next MANviro 300 expected to arrive at Stockton is 22883 SP09DRX this should be in Stocktons fleet around the 24th this month whether it’ll stay in beachball or not is currently unknown atm
(16 Apr 2023, 9:15 pm)Dyllan7817 The next MANviro 300 expected to arrive at Stockton is 22883 SP09DRX this should be in Stocktons fleet around the 24th this month whether it’ll stay in beachball or not is currently unknown atm
(23 Apr 2023, 11:31 am)col87 If you mean Hartlepool that is what’s happening but reworking and renumbering the 6 and 7 both long standing routes which predate the Stagecoach network with very little in re routing won’t be a good idea. At the moment they is only 5 commercial services they operate the 1 3/3A 6 and 7. That’s along side one college service the UTC with one split journey each way and two early morning work services the 20 and 980 which is about one journey a day only going one way. So it is a simple network and the existing services up to a point do work. The problem really is that they really needs to be additional services. To go back 20 years to 2003 you had a lot more services either the following
1,1A,2,2A, 3, 3A,4,5,6,7,7A,8,9( Sunday only service), 12,15(Evening and Sunday) X9( Jointly with Stockton Depot) 516,527 it was not perfect but most areas where served but the problem is Stagecoach since they took over have axed Services. As for the profit they used to make additional income from having a coaching unit available for private hire alongside doing excursions but that was all axed around 2002 even though it was successful. They also used to have the X99 to metrocentre which ran for many years which was also axed around 2002. So Stagecoach really have themselves to blame by
1) cost cutting over the years getter to the current situation of where a depot that was making profit now barley breaks even.
2) Not keeping up with passengers habits by having routes to place’s passengers will want to go to.
3) By not having a big enough budget to keep the buses in good condition. If the buses were kept decent people would use them more but it’s well known with the Hartlepool fleet you never know if will you get a journey down without it breaking down or having a problem. I personally used to joke that alpha kept a truck in the town due to how often breakdowns would happen and it’s not a joke I once witnessed two breakdowns with hours of each other.
(23 Apr 2023, 11:31 am)col87 If you mean Hartlepool that is what’s happening but reworking and renumbering the 6 and 7 both long standing routes which predate the Stagecoach network with very little in re routing won’t be a good idea. At the moment they is only 5 commercial services they operate the 1 3/3A 6 and 7. That’s along side one college service the UTC with one split journey each way and two early morning work services the 20 and 980 which is about one journey a day only going one way. So it is a simple network and the existing services up to a point do work. The problem really is that they really needs to be additional services. To go back 20 years to 2003 you had a lot more services either the following
1,1A,2,2A, 3, 3A,4,5,6,7,7A,8,9( Sunday only service), 12,15(Evening and Sunday) X9( Jointly with Stockton Depot) 516,527 it was not perfect but most areas where served but the problem is Stagecoach since they took over have axed Services. As for the profit they used to make additional income from having a coaching unit available for private hire alongside doing excursions but that was all axed around 2002 even though it was successful. They also used to have the X99 to metrocentre which ran for many years which was also axed around 2002. So Stagecoach really have themselves to blame by
1) cost cutting over the years getter to the current situation of where a depot that was making profit now barley breaks even.
2) Not keeping up with passengers habits by having routes to place’s passengers will want to go to.
3) By not having a big enough budget to keep the buses in good condition. If the buses were kept decent people would use them more but it’s well known with the Hartlepool fleet you never know if will you get a journey down without it breaking down or having a problem. I personally used to joke that alpha kept a truck in the town due to how often breakdowns would happen and it’s not a joke I once witnessed two breakdowns with hours of each other.
22890 is now believed to be at Sunderland for repaint before heading to Stockton.
22581 not 100% sure if this is withdrawn it shows as withdrawn on bustimes as it was being stripped for parts on the back yard at Slatyford depot but it’s now in the workshop that could be another Stockton are getting.
22065 has been updated on bustimes to being painted into driver training colours so I don’t think that’s heading to Stockton.
(25 Apr 2023, 6:38 pm)ReDemPTiion 22890 is now believed to be at Sunderland for repaint before heading to Stockton.i have seen photos of 22065 and can confirm it is indeed in training colours
22581 not 100% sure if this is withdrawn it shows as withdrawn on bustimes as it was being stripped for parts on the back yard at Slatyford depot but it’s now in the workshop that could be another Stockton are getting.
22065 has been updated on bustimes to being painted into driver training colours so I don’t think that’s heading to Stockton.
(25 Apr 2023, 6:38 pm)ReDemPTiion 22890 is now believed to be at Sunderland for repaint before heading to Stockton.i have seen photos of 22065 and can confirm it is indeed in training colours
22581 not 100% sure if this is withdrawn it shows as withdrawn on bustimes as it was being stripped for parts on the back yard at Slatyford depot but it’s now in the workshop that could be another Stockton are getting.
22065 has been updated on bustimes to being painted into driver training colours so I don’t think that’s heading to Stockton.
Does anyone know why Walkergate now have 8 E200s for a PVR of 5. I assumed 37314 transferring over was to replace 36468? Leaving Walkergate with 37312,37314-19
(26 Apr 2023, 3:25 pm)Lollist Why more trainers we have thousands22075 is getting withdrawn at Stockton or is believed to be withdrawn
(26 Apr 2023, 3:25 pm)Lollist Why more trainers we have thousands22075 is getting withdrawn at Stockton or is believed to be withdrawn