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cbma06



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23 Apr 2023, 11:39 am #1,421
How many bus services that are ran by Hartlepool depot are actually commercial and how many are secured contract?, and are most evenings and Sundays just secured contracts?, has anyone got a list


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cbma06
23 Apr 2023, 11:39 am #1,421

How many bus services that are ran by Hartlepool depot are actually commercial and how many are secured contract?, and are most evenings and Sundays just secured contracts?, has anyone got a list


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col87



506
23 Apr 2023, 12:45 pm #1,422
(23 Apr 2023, 11:39 am)cbma06 How many bus services that are ran by Hartlepool depot are actually commercial and how many are secured contract?, and are most evenings and Sundays just secured contracts?, has anyone got a list


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Like I put in the last post all of them the 1 3/3A 6 and 7 are all commercial. 

the 20 980 and UTC are all contract services.  All Sunday and Evening services are commercial as well hence they are not many services at all after 6:30 an hourly service 1 a split service 7 from Owton Manor and half a service 6 been the only services on an evening using a total of about 5-6 buses if that.
col87
23 Apr 2023, 12:45 pm #1,422

(23 Apr 2023, 11:39 am)cbma06 How many bus services that are ran by Hartlepool depot are actually commercial and how many are secured contract?, and are most evenings and Sundays just secured contracts?, has anyone got a list


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Like I put in the last post all of them the 1 3/3A 6 and 7 are all commercial. 

the 20 980 and UTC are all contract services.  All Sunday and Evening services are commercial as well hence they are not many services at all after 6:30 an hourly service 1 a split service 7 from Owton Manor and half a service 6 been the only services on an evening using a total of about 5-6 buses if that.

tyresmoke



5,323
23 Apr 2023, 12:47 pm #1,423
(23 Apr 2023, 12:45 pm)col87 Like I put in the last post all of them the 1 3/3A 6 and 7 are all commercial. 

the 20 980 and UTC are all contract services.  All Sunday and Evening services are commercial as well hence they are not many services at all after 6:30 an hourly service 1 a split service 7 from Owton Manor and half a service 6 been the only services on an evening using a total of about 5-6 buses if that.


After 8pm you’re left with just 4 buses out, 3 on the 6/7 and one running service 1


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tyresmoke
23 Apr 2023, 12:47 pm #1,423

(23 Apr 2023, 12:45 pm)col87 Like I put in the last post all of them the 1 3/3A 6 and 7 are all commercial. 

the 20 980 and UTC are all contract services.  All Sunday and Evening services are commercial as well hence they are not many services at all after 6:30 an hourly service 1 a split service 7 from Owton Manor and half a service 6 been the only services on an evening using a total of about 5-6 buses if that.


After 8pm you’re left with just 4 buses out, 3 on the 6/7 and one running service 1


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Lollist



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23 Apr 2023, 4:47 pm #1,424
If only stagecoach read this forum tho dkubt they would listen to it though
Lollist
23 Apr 2023, 4:47 pm #1,424

If only stagecoach read this forum tho dkubt they would listen to it though

23 Apr 2023, 5:42 pm #1,425
Not sure if anyone has noticed but 22885 Has Gone To Hartlepool On Loan
Mr Alx300 22062 NK54 BFF
23 Apr 2023, 5:42 pm #1,425

Not sure if anyone has noticed but 22885 Has Gone To Hartlepool On Loan

col87



506
23 Apr 2023, 9:18 pm #1,426
(23 Apr 2023, 5:42 pm)Mr Alx300 22062 NK54 BFF Not sure if anyone has noticed but 22885 Has Gone To Hartlepool On Loan

so it gets even more ridiculous then as that now makes it 4 buses on loan ( unless one has gone back ).
col87
23 Apr 2023, 9:18 pm #1,426

(23 Apr 2023, 5:42 pm)Mr Alx300 22062 NK54 BFF Not sure if anyone has noticed but 22885 Has Gone To Hartlepool On Loan

so it gets even more ridiculous then as that now makes it 4 buses on loan ( unless one has gone back ).

glen



705
23 Apr 2023, 9:52 pm #1,427
Do you think stagecoach
north east needs more second hand buses to help out with Stockton and hartlepool depot?
glen
23 Apr 2023, 9:52 pm #1,427

Do you think stagecoach
north east needs more second hand buses to help out with Stockton and hartlepool depot?

Kuyoyo



6,856
24 Apr 2023, 4:51 am #1,428
(23 Apr 2023, 9:18 pm)col87 so it gets even more ridiculous then as that now makes it 4 buses on loan ( unless one has gone back ).

24122 returned on Saturday night in exchange for 22885.
Kuyoyo
24 Apr 2023, 4:51 am #1,428

(23 Apr 2023, 9:18 pm)col87 so it gets even more ridiculous then as that now makes it 4 buses on loan ( unless one has gone back ).

24122 returned on Saturday night in exchange for 22885.

col87



506
24 Apr 2023, 1:08 pm #1,429
(24 Apr 2023, 4:51 am)Kuyoyo 24122 returned on Saturday night in exchange for 22885.
That’s interesting then as it was tracking on the 6 earlier.  Saying that I don’t many are tracking properly at the moment.
col87
24 Apr 2023, 1:08 pm #1,429

(24 Apr 2023, 4:51 am)Kuyoyo 24122 returned on Saturday night in exchange for 22885.
That’s interesting then as it was tracking on the 6 earlier.  Saying that I don’t many are tracking properly at the moment.

24 Apr 2023, 2:00 pm #1,430
(24 Apr 2023, 1:08 pm)col87 That’s interesting then as it was tracking on the 6 earlier.  Saying that I don’t many are tracking properly at the moment.


22885 was parked up in Stockton depot earlier today
stagecoachfan
24 Apr 2023, 2:00 pm #1,430

(24 Apr 2023, 1:08 pm)col87 That’s interesting then as it was tracking on the 6 earlier.  Saying that I don’t many are tracking properly at the moment.


22885 was parked up in Stockton depot earlier today

Lollist



193
24 Apr 2023, 4:06 pm #1,431
We need more carsisle buses clearly
Lollist
24 Apr 2023, 4:06 pm #1,431

We need more carsisle buses clearly

24 Apr 2023, 5:36 pm #1,432
(16 Apr 2023, 9:15 pm)Dyllan7817 The next MANviro 300 expected to arrive at Stockton is 22883 SP09DRX this should be in Stocktons fleet around the 24th this month whether it’ll stay in beachball or not is currently unknown atm

Still tracking in Lancaster as of today
stagecoachfan
24 Apr 2023, 5:36 pm #1,432

(16 Apr 2023, 9:15 pm)Dyllan7817 The next MANviro 300 expected to arrive at Stockton is 22883 SP09DRX this should be in Stocktons fleet around the 24th this month whether it’ll stay in beachball or not is currently unknown atm

Still tracking in Lancaster as of today

Rob44



1,519
25 Apr 2023, 12:01 pm #1,433
(23 Apr 2023, 11:31 am)col87 If you mean Hartlepool that is what’s happening but reworking and renumbering the 6 and 7 both long standing routes which predate the Stagecoach network with very little in re routing won’t be a good idea.  At the moment they is only 5 commercial services they operate the 1 3/3A 6 and 7. That’s along side one college service the UTC with one split journey each way and two early morning work services the 20 and 980 which is about one journey a day only going one way.  So it is a simple network and the existing services up to a point do work. The problem really is that they really needs to be additional services.  To go back 20 years to 2003 you had a lot more services either the following 

1,1A,2,2A, 3, 3A,4,5,6,7,7A,8,9( Sunday only service), 12,15(Evening and Sunday) X9( Jointly with Stockton Depot) 516,527 it was not perfect but most areas where served but the problem is Stagecoach since they took over have axed Services. As for the profit they used to make additional income from having a coaching unit available for private hire alongside doing excursions but that was all axed around 2002 even though it was successful.  They also used to have the X99 to metrocentre which ran for many years which was also axed around 2002. So Stagecoach really have themselves to blame by 

1) cost cutting over the years getter to the current situation of where a depot that was making profit now barley breaks even.  

2) Not keeping up with passengers habits by having routes to place’s passengers will want to go to. 

3) By not having a big enough budget to keep the buses in good condition.  If the buses were kept decent people would use them more but it’s well known with the Hartlepool fleet you never know if will you get a journey down without it breaking down or having a problem.  I personally used to joke that alpha kept a truck in the town due to how often breakdowns would happen and it’s not a joke I once witnessed two breakdowns with hours of each other.

Im not sure about that mind.  Ok if buses are breaking down every time you use them you might think about using other forms of transport ( if you can ) but you'd hardly go out and spend 10k on a car or pay 5x the amount for a taxi? How many more punter uses the GNE xlines serices because they are new buses?  I doubt the passenger footfall has increased at all. And ive seen x lines bus parked up at the side of the road with an engineer so newer doesn't always mean reliable.
Rob44
25 Apr 2023, 12:01 pm #1,433

(23 Apr 2023, 11:31 am)col87 If you mean Hartlepool that is what’s happening but reworking and renumbering the 6 and 7 both long standing routes which predate the Stagecoach network with very little in re routing won’t be a good idea.  At the moment they is only 5 commercial services they operate the 1 3/3A 6 and 7. That’s along side one college service the UTC with one split journey each way and two early morning work services the 20 and 980 which is about one journey a day only going one way.  So it is a simple network and the existing services up to a point do work. The problem really is that they really needs to be additional services.  To go back 20 years to 2003 you had a lot more services either the following 

1,1A,2,2A, 3, 3A,4,5,6,7,7A,8,9( Sunday only service), 12,15(Evening and Sunday) X9( Jointly with Stockton Depot) 516,527 it was not perfect but most areas where served but the problem is Stagecoach since they took over have axed Services. As for the profit they used to make additional income from having a coaching unit available for private hire alongside doing excursions but that was all axed around 2002 even though it was successful.  They also used to have the X99 to metrocentre which ran for many years which was also axed around 2002. So Stagecoach really have themselves to blame by 

1) cost cutting over the years getter to the current situation of where a depot that was making profit now barley breaks even.  

2) Not keeping up with passengers habits by having routes to place’s passengers will want to go to. 

3) By not having a big enough budget to keep the buses in good condition.  If the buses were kept decent people would use them more but it’s well known with the Hartlepool fleet you never know if will you get a journey down without it breaking down or having a problem.  I personally used to joke that alpha kept a truck in the town due to how often breakdowns would happen and it’s not a joke I once witnessed two breakdowns with hours of each other.

Im not sure about that mind.  Ok if buses are breaking down every time you use them you might think about using other forms of transport ( if you can ) but you'd hardly go out and spend 10k on a car or pay 5x the amount for a taxi? How many more punter uses the GNE xlines serices because they are new buses?  I doubt the passenger footfall has increased at all. And ive seen x lines bus parked up at the side of the road with an engineer so newer doesn't always mean reliable.

25 Apr 2023, 6:38 pm #1,434
22890 is now believed to be at Sunderland for repaint before heading to Stockton. 

22581 not 100% sure if this is withdrawn it shows as withdrawn on bustimes as it was being stripped for parts on the back yard at Slatyford depot but it’s now in the workshop that could be another Stockton are getting.

22065 has been updated on bustimes to being painted into driver training colours so I don’t think that’s heading to Stockton.
ReDemPTiion
25 Apr 2023, 6:38 pm #1,434

22890 is now believed to be at Sunderland for repaint before heading to Stockton. 

22581 not 100% sure if this is withdrawn it shows as withdrawn on bustimes as it was being stripped for parts on the back yard at Slatyford depot but it’s now in the workshop that could be another Stockton are getting.

22065 has been updated on bustimes to being painted into driver training colours so I don’t think that’s heading to Stockton.

26 Apr 2023, 11:54 am #1,435
(25 Apr 2023, 6:38 pm)ReDemPTiion 22890 is now believed to be at Sunderland for repaint before heading to Stockton. 

22581 not 100% sure if this is withdrawn it shows as withdrawn on bustimes as it was being stripped for parts on the back yard at Slatyford depot but it’s now in the workshop that could be another Stockton are getting.

22065 has been updated on bustimes to being painted into driver training colours so I don’t think that’s heading to Stockton.
i have seen photos of 22065 and can confirm it is indeed in training colours
toward6931
26 Apr 2023, 11:54 am #1,435

(25 Apr 2023, 6:38 pm)ReDemPTiion 22890 is now believed to be at Sunderland for repaint before heading to Stockton. 

22581 not 100% sure if this is withdrawn it shows as withdrawn on bustimes as it was being stripped for parts on the back yard at Slatyford depot but it’s now in the workshop that could be another Stockton are getting.

22065 has been updated on bustimes to being painted into driver training colours so I don’t think that’s heading to Stockton.
i have seen photos of 22065 and can confirm it is indeed in training colours

Lollist



193
26 Apr 2023, 3:25 pm #1,436
Why more trainers we have thousands
Lollist
26 Apr 2023, 3:25 pm #1,436

Why more trainers we have thousands

26 Apr 2023, 6:02 pm #1,437
Does anyone know why Walkergate now have 8 E200s for a PVR of 5. I assumed 37314 transferring over was to replace 36468? Leaving Walkergate with 37312,37314-19
Dans_bus_photos
26 Apr 2023, 6:02 pm #1,437

Does anyone know why Walkergate now have 8 E200s for a PVR of 5. I assumed 37314 transferring over was to replace 36468? Leaving Walkergate with 37312,37314-19

26 Apr 2023, 6:02 pm #1,438
(26 Apr 2023, 3:25 pm)Lollist Why more trainers we have thousands
22075 is getting withdrawn at Stockton or is believed to be withdrawn
Mr Alx300 22062 NK54 BFF
26 Apr 2023, 6:02 pm #1,438

(26 Apr 2023, 3:25 pm)Lollist Why more trainers we have thousands
22075 is getting withdrawn at Stockton or is believed to be withdrawn

glen



705
26 Apr 2023, 6:41 pm #1,439
Just seen a photo of 22883 at Stockton depot today.
glen
26 Apr 2023, 6:41 pm #1,439

Just seen a photo of 22883 at Stockton depot today.

glen



705
26 Apr 2023, 6:53 pm #1,440
Is going be more ex 300 going to Stockton and alx300 to?
glen
26 Apr 2023, 6:53 pm #1,440

Is going be more ex 300 going to Stockton and alx300 to?

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