Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(12 May 2023, 10:15 pm)Unber43 Would the 342 not be a good loop service?
It could come down the A1, either go to Scotswood, or Metrocentre, then into Newcastle.
(12 May 2023, 10:15 pm)Unber43 Would the 342 not be a good loop service?
It could come down the A1, either go to Scotswood, or Metrocentre, then into Newcastle.
Thinking about this.
But with the impending ABTRL opening next year and the impact it could have on Blyth's services, it only leaves the 306/308 and 43/44/45 as the 'goldmines'. Plus these will still encounter operational issues such as dead mileage, remote reliefs and long layovers.
Arriva although expanding facilities at Blyth, have not made any investment since 2013/14 (308 B5LH's and X10/X11 refurbs). Could this signal Arriva eventually pulling Blyth and focusing their core operations around Bedlington, Ashington, Morpeth and the Northumberland Coast?
If Stagecoach were to lets say acquire Blyth's operations if Arriva sold up......
- 43/44/45 - have Walkergate or Slatyford for some boards
- 306/308 - have Walkergate for some boards plus they also have presence around parts of each routes
- X7/X8 - Have presence & competition around these routes
- X9/X10/X11 - Could make a good go of these
If Arriva re-trenched and just had Ashington, they could get by using all the E400MMCs + the 14x StreetLites for the 1/2/57/57A. Not forgetting that the X21/X22 will likely see a frequency reduction once the ABTRL opens.
could they not run the last 44 to dinnington then bakc through brunswick then follow the 43 rout to cramliniton or even up to blyth. I know it would add 20 minutes to the journy but im sure people woulnd mind that muche,. I mena ive got the 44 to dinnington then the same bus back to town via brunswick and I also have to put up with the " tour de gateshead" 29 serivice.
(14 May 2023, 12:34 pm)L469 YVK Arriva although expanding facilities at Blyth, have not made any investment since 2013/14 (308 B5LH's and X10/X11 refurbs). Could this signal Arriva eventually pulling Blyth and focusing their core operations around Bedlington, Ashington, Morpeth and the Northumberland Coast?
(14 May 2023, 12:34 pm)L469 YVK Arriva although expanding facilities at Blyth, have not made any investment since 2013/14 (308 B5LH's and X10/X11 refurbs). Could this signal Arriva eventually pulling Blyth and focusing their core operations around Bedlington, Ashington, Morpeth and the Northumberland Coast?
(14 May 2023, 5:05 pm)V514DFT See personally i dont know why the interworking is more sensible
like this
44/45
43/52/53
51/54 or 51/55
54/306/308
Would that not help combat dead mileage
(14 May 2023, 5:05 pm)V514DFT See personally i dont know why the interworking is more sensible
like this
44/45
43/52/53
51/54 or 51/55
54/306/308
Would that not help combat dead mileage
(14 May 2023, 5:35 pm)mb134 They're literally investing in electric vehicles and associated infrastructure for Blyth right now.And that defeats the whole scale of efficiencies as unless EV's were rolled out further, interworking the 43/44/45 with other Blyth based routes would be a no go for starters.
(14 May 2023, 5:35 pm)mb134 They're literally investing in electric vehicles and associated infrastructure for Blyth right now.And that defeats the whole scale of efficiencies as unless EV's were rolled out further, interworking the 43/44/45 with other Blyth based routes would be a no go for starters.
(14 May 2023, 8:34 pm)L469 YVK And that defeats the whole scale of efficiencies as unless EV's were rolled out further, interworking the 43/44/45 with other Blyth based routes would be a no go for starters.
Then Arriva still have the issue of the 306 & 308 including dead runs to Tynemouth / Whitley Bay plus the long evening layovers too for the 306 given the fact that any interworking patterns would also gave to tie in with the 307 & 309 to maintain common headways.
Then....the inevitable when the ABTRL opens too for the X7/X8/X9/X10/X11
(14 May 2023, 8:34 pm)L469 YVK And that defeats the whole scale of efficiencies as unless EV's were rolled out further, interworking the 43/44/45 with other Blyth based routes would be a no go for starters.
Then Arriva still have the issue of the 306 & 308 including dead runs to Tynemouth / Whitley Bay plus the long evening layovers too for the 306 given the fact that any interworking patterns would also gave to tie in with the 307 & 309 to maintain common headways.
Then....the inevitable when the ABTRL opens too for the X7/X8/X9/X10/X11
(15 May 2023, 7:36 am)Shrek If I remember correctly, the terms of the levelling up funding for the new electric buses for the 43/44/45 will require those buses to be running those routes. So they'll probably have to keep them together for that purpose.
(15 May 2023, 7:36 am)Shrek If I remember correctly, the terms of the levelling up funding for the new electric buses for the 43/44/45 will require those buses to be running those routes. So they'll probably have to keep them together for that purpose.
(12 May 2023, 2:39 pm)V514DFT Still mention it all the time
I'd renumber it 64 aswell, that way it matches up in more ways than 1, my concern about that idea is the 62, as 1 extends to Throckley every 30 mins, so would you use that one to extend to Cramlington so it would be a Throckley- Cramlington service every 30 minutes?, 62/63 arent great at the best of times in regards to being on time, its been said a few times on here that the 62/63 need another service to take some of the pressure off
(12 May 2023, 2:39 pm)V514DFT Still mention it all the time
I'd renumber it 64 aswell, that way it matches up in more ways than 1, my concern about that idea is the 62, as 1 extends to Throckley every 30 mins, so would you use that one to extend to Cramlington so it would be a Throckley- Cramlington service every 30 minutes?, 62/63 arent great at the best of times in regards to being on time, its been said a few times on here that the 62/63 need another service to take some of the pressure off
(15 May 2023, 8:07 am)Storx In fairness the hybrids were meant to be kept on the 308 and currently the 306/308 is meant to be fully Decker operated. I wouldn't be surprised to see them start to wander onto other routes like usual after a few weeks especially when things get reallocated for time keeping.Of course that is going to happen , will be interesting to see how they would handle a X10/11 board.
(15 May 2023, 8:07 am)Storx In fairness the hybrids were meant to be kept on the 308 and currently the 306/308 is meant to be fully Decker operated. I wouldn't be surprised to see them start to wander onto other routes like usual after a few weeks especially when things get reallocated for time keeping.Of course that is going to happen , will be interesting to see how they would handle a X10/11 board.
(15 May 2023, 8:07 am)Storx In fairness the hybrids were meant to be kept on the 308 and currently the 306/308 is meant to be fully Decker operated. I wouldn't be surprised to see them start to wander onto other routes like usual after a few weeks especially when things get reallocated for time keeping.
(15 May 2023, 8:07 am)Storx In fairness the hybrids were meant to be kept on the 308 and currently the 306/308 is meant to be fully Decker operated. I wouldn't be surprised to see them start to wander onto other routes like usual after a few weeks especially when things get reallocated for time keeping.
See the problem u have is there isn't enough deckers at Walkergate/Blyth to cover the 43/44/45/X7/8/9/10/11 alongside shoving decekrs on the 306/308 as well. Reason we are seeing the occasion of the E400 from Ashington randomly appearing and 7524/25/26/56 appearing at Blyth & Walkergate
(15 May 2023, 2:52 pm)Busu284 See the problem u have is there isn't enough deckers at Walkergate/Blyth to cover the 43/44/45/X7/8/9/10/11 alongside shoving decekrs on the 306/308 as well. Reason we are seeing the occasion of the E400 from Ashington randomly appearing and 7524/25/26/56 appearing at Blyth & Walkergate
(15 May 2023, 2:52 pm)Busu284 See the problem u have is there isn't enough deckers at Walkergate/Blyth to cover the 43/44/45/X7/8/9/10/11 alongside shoving decekrs on the 306/308 as well. Reason we are seeing the occasion of the E400 from Ashington randomly appearing and 7524/25/26/56 appearing at Blyth & Walkergate
Some service changes are planned in Durham from July 9th
Info circulated via some local Facebook groups and pages.
(16 May 2023, 8:25 pm)Jimmi Some service changes are planned in Durham from July 9th
Info circulated via some local Facebook groups and pages.
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(16 May 2023, 8:25 pm)Jimmi Some service changes are planned in Durham from July 9th
Info circulated via some local Facebook groups and pages.
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Service Manager, Coatham Connect
(16 May 2023, 8:25 pm)Jimmi Some service changes are planned in Durham from July 9th
Info circulated via some local Facebook groups and pages.