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CatsFast101
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11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:14 pm)Dan - X66
Vehicles withdrawn

- Lime
4850-55 withdrawn, 4896-4902 cascaded to replace older B10BLEs

- Crusader
14x Citaros available for cascade - perhaps 9 to Stanley for "Red Kite", and the remaining 5 to Stanley for X30/X31, with a number of doors open for the cascades (one of which being the "Centurion")?

- Laser
12x Citaros available for cascade - perhaps all 12 to remain at Deptford for use on "Prince Bishops" service 20, in turn allowing the currently allocated Solars to replace B10BLEs in the fleet?

- Toon Link
4841 and 5144-50 withdrawn, 4978-82 perhaps to take a "spare role" in the fleet to replace older spare vehicles. "South Tyne" 5 comes to mind with this one too.

- Fab57
Vehicles withdrawn

Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand?
CatsFast101
11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm #241

(11 Feb 2014, 5:14 pm)Dan - X66
Vehicles withdrawn

- Lime
4850-55 withdrawn, 4896-4902 cascaded to replace older B10BLEs

- Crusader
14x Citaros available for cascade - perhaps 9 to Stanley for "Red Kite", and the remaining 5 to Stanley for X30/X31, with a number of doors open for the cascades (one of which being the "Centurion")?

- Laser
12x Citaros available for cascade - perhaps all 12 to remain at Deptford for use on "Prince Bishops" service 20, in turn allowing the currently allocated Solars to replace B10BLEs in the fleet?

- Toon Link
4841 and 5144-50 withdrawn, 4978-82 perhaps to take a "spare role" in the fleet to replace older spare vehicles. "South Tyne" 5 comes to mind with this one too.

- Fab57
Vehicles withdrawn

Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand?

19181
11 Feb 2014, 5:30 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm)CatsFast101 Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand?

Pulse - Possibly - not sure on numbers though, not from the area - with spare solar's - seem's likely.

64/64A/95/96 - might rejoin the Highwayman? - Whats their PVR?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Feb 2014, 5:30 pm #242

(11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm)CatsFast101 Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand?

Pulse - Possibly - not sure on numbers though, not from the area - with spare solar's - seem's likely.

64/64A/95/96 - might rejoin the Highwayman? - Whats their PVR?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan
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18138
11 Feb 2014, 5:30 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm)CatsFast101 Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand?

Has certainly been suggested for a good two months or so now - and not by me this time!
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=784&pid=22211#pid22211

Well... Do you think the Pulse is gonna go red in a few weeks' time? If so, I see no problem with that suggestion. Wink

As for the 64/95/96, I doubt it - not yet.
Dan
11 Feb 2014, 5:30 pm #243

(11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm)CatsFast101 Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand?

Has certainly been suggested for a good two months or so now - and not by me this time!
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=784&pid=22211#pid22211

Well... Do you think the Pulse is gonna go red in a few weeks' time? If so, I see no problem with that suggestion. Wink

As for the 64/95/96, I doubt it - not yet.

Tom
6138
11 Feb 2014, 5:31 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm)CatsFast101 Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand?

4969/5211/5212/5213 to the ''Pulse'' services, which leaves 5214/5215/5216/5217 to go somewhere. Possibly the X70/X71?
Tom
11 Feb 2014, 5:31 pm #244

(11 Feb 2014, 5:25 pm)CatsFast101 Shocked to see fab57 getting investment straight away but yeah this sounds about right, same I said in the other thread. 4 Solars from Prince Bishops' over to Pulse possibly? Could we see 64/95/96 get some too under a new brand?

4969/5211/5212/5213 to the ''Pulse'' services, which leaves 5214/5215/5216/5217 to go somewhere. Possibly the X70/X71?

19181
11 Feb 2014, 5:34 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:30 pm)Dan Has certainly been suggested for a good two months or so now - and not by me this time!
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=784&pid=22211#pid22211

Well... Do you think the Pulse is gonna go red in a few weeks' time? If so, I see no problem with that suggestion. Wink

As for the 64/95/96, I doubt it - not yet.

It seems daft that all the B10's from 17/17/67/69/69A will go Northern when their inline to be withdrawn this year -.-

Even though Dan said - a good tidy up might increase value, i still think its daft their wasting money when they won't even get much for them

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Feb 2014, 5:34 pm #245

(11 Feb 2014, 5:30 pm)Dan Has certainly been suggested for a good two months or so now - and not by me this time!
http://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showth...hp?tid=784&pid=22211#pid22211

Well... Do you think the Pulse is gonna go red in a few weeks' time? If so, I see no problem with that suggestion. Wink

As for the 64/95/96, I doubt it - not yet.

It seems daft that all the B10's from 17/17/67/69/69A will go Northern when their inline to be withdrawn this year -.-

Even though Dan said - a good tidy up might increase value, i still think its daft their wasting money when they won't even get much for them


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan
Site Administrator
18138
11 Feb 2014, 5:38 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:34 pm)Michael It seems daft that all the B10's from 17/17/67/69/69A will go Northern when their inline to be withdrawn this year -.-

Even though Dan said - a good tidy up might increase value, i still think its daft their wasting money when they won't even get much for them

Gotta think - those B10BLEs have had a bit of work done to them! They're Euro 4, after all. Interiors aren't too shabby at present, but if they're given a thorough clean regardless...

If they're in a more appropriate red (rather than a tired old yellow which hasn't been repainted for a good while), operators who are less likely to be able to afford £1.5k or so for a repaint, may be more tempted to buy them.
Dan
11 Feb 2014, 5:38 pm #246

(11 Feb 2014, 5:34 pm)Michael It seems daft that all the B10's from 17/17/67/69/69A will go Northern when their inline to be withdrawn this year -.-

Even though Dan said - a good tidy up might increase value, i still think its daft their wasting money when they won't even get much for them

Gotta think - those B10BLEs have had a bit of work done to them! They're Euro 4, after all. Interiors aren't too shabby at present, but if they're given a thorough clean regardless...

If they're in a more appropriate red (rather than a tired old yellow which hasn't been repainted for a good while), operators who are less likely to be able to afford £1.5k or so for a repaint, may be more tempted to buy them.

6857
11 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:23 pm)Michael Would be nice to see purple citaro's with black at the top!

Ask and you shall receive Wink

Kuyoyo
11 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm #247

(11 Feb 2014, 5:23 pm)Michael Would be nice to see purple citaro's with black at the top!

Ask and you shall receive Wink

19181
11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm)Kuyoyo Ask and you shall receive Wink

Yes, that's perfect, it suits the citaro really well

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm #248

(11 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm)Kuyoyo Ask and you shall receive Wink

Yes, that's perfect, it suits the citaro really well


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan
Site Administrator
18138
11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm)Kuyoyo Ask and you shall receive Wink

We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! Tongue

If GNE think it's another Crusader, it's entirely possible we'll have a cheap in-house design unfortunately.
Dan
11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm #249

(11 Feb 2014, 5:40 pm)Kuyoyo Ask and you shall receive Wink

We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! Tongue

If GNE think it's another Crusader, it's entirely possible we'll have a cheap in-house design unfortunately.

Tom
6138
11 Feb 2014, 5:44 pm
This could possibly happen if the Crusader did receive investment.

Crusader Citaros:
5310-14 - Stanley for services X30 and X31.
5315-19/5328-29/30/32 to Stanley for the Red Kite Services.

Laser Citaros:
5298-5309 - Deptford for Prince Bishops.
Solars would displace Renowns.

Red Kite Omnicities:
5234-42 - Percy Main for Centurion along with 5250 which could be a branded spare.

Prince Bishops Solars:
4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse.
4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40.
5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A.
5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus.
Tom
11 Feb 2014, 5:44 pm #250

This could possibly happen if the Crusader did receive investment.

Crusader Citaros:
5310-14 - Stanley for services X30 and X31.
5315-19/5328-29/30/32 to Stanley for the Red Kite Services.

Laser Citaros:
5298-5309 - Deptford for Prince Bishops.
Solars would displace Renowns.

Red Kite Omnicities:
5234-42 - Percy Main for Centurion along with 5250 which could be a branded spare.

Prince Bishops Solars:
4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse.
4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40.
5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A.
5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus.

19181
11 Feb 2014, 5:46 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:38 pm)Dan Gotta think - those B10BLEs have had a bit of work done to them! They're Euro 4, after all. Interiors aren't too shabby at present, but if they're given a thorough clean regardless...

If they're in a more appropriate red (rather than a tired old yellow which hasn't been repainted for a good while), operators who are less likely to be able to afford £1.5k or so for a repaint, may be more tempted to buy them.

Saying their euro 4 - then i agree - i didn't know that, as for being red, ye saves getting rid of the shabby yellow



Tom- theirs also 4989-4992 - which is still the wrong colour for the Prince Bishops on the fleet allocation

I would say

67/69/69A - 4969,4989,4890,4891,4892
--------------
Then theirs

5211,5212,5213,5214,5215,5216,5217 - Removes more B10's from frontline service.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Feb 2014, 5:46 pm #251

(11 Feb 2014, 5:38 pm)Dan Gotta think - those B10BLEs have had a bit of work done to them! They're Euro 4, after all. Interiors aren't too shabby at present, but if they're given a thorough clean regardless...

If they're in a more appropriate red (rather than a tired old yellow which hasn't been repainted for a good while), operators who are less likely to be able to afford £1.5k or so for a repaint, may be more tempted to buy them.

Saying their euro 4 - then i agree - i didn't know that, as for being red, ye saves getting rid of the shabby yellow



Tom- theirs also 4989-4992 - which is still the wrong colour for the Prince Bishops on the fleet allocation

I would say

67/69/69A - 4969,4989,4890,4891,4892
--------------
Then theirs

5211,5212,5213,5214,5215,5216,5217 - Removes more B10's from frontline service.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

19181
11 Feb 2014, 5:47 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm)Dan We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! Tongue

If GNE think it's another Crusader, it's entirely possible we'll have a cheap in-house design unfortunately.

The current Prince Bishops doesn't look cheap, i really hope its not going to be Crusader job and be rubbish - if of course they receive them Tongue

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Feb 2014, 5:47 pm #252

(11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm)Dan We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! Tongue

If GNE think it's another Crusader, it's entirely possible we'll have a cheap in-house design unfortunately.

The current Prince Bishops doesn't look cheap, i really hope its not going to be Crusader job and be rubbish - if of course they receive them Tongue


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

CatsFast101
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11 Feb 2014, 5:47 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm)Dan We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! Tongue

If GNE think it's another Crusader, it's entirely possible we'll have a cheap in-house design unfortunately.

I think the Prince Bishops livery is very good so if it's a new cheap one on the Citaros I'd be disappointed slightly.
CatsFast101
11 Feb 2014, 5:47 pm #253

(11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm)Dan We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! Tongue

If GNE think it's another Crusader, it's entirely possible we'll have a cheap in-house design unfortunately.

I think the Prince Bishops livery is very good so if it's a new cheap one on the Citaros I'd be disappointed slightly.

Tom
6138
11 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:46 pm)Michael Saying their euro 4 - then i agree - i didn't know that, as for being red, ye saves getting rid of the shabby yellow



Tom- theirs also 4989-4992 - which is still the wrong colour for the Prince Bishops on the fleet allocation

I would say

67/69/69A - 4969,4989,4890,4891,4892
--------------
Then theirs

5211,5212,5213,5214,5215,5216,5217 - Removes more B10's from frontline service.

Yes, I know. PVR for the Pulse is only 4.
4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse. (Replacing 5160/1/2/3)
4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40. (Replacing the tired Artics).
5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A. (Replacing various Renowns from frontline services).
5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus. (Replacing 4910 from frontline services)
Tom
11 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm #254

(11 Feb 2014, 5:46 pm)Michael Saying their euro 4 - then i agree - i didn't know that, as for being red, ye saves getting rid of the shabby yellow



Tom- theirs also 4989-4992 - which is still the wrong colour for the Prince Bishops on the fleet allocation

I would say

67/69/69A - 4969,4989,4890,4891,4892
--------------
Then theirs

5211,5212,5213,5214,5215,5216,5217 - Removes more B10's from frontline service.

Yes, I know. PVR for the Pulse is only 4.
4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse. (Replacing 5160/1/2/3)
4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40. (Replacing the tired Artics).
5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A. (Replacing various Renowns from frontline services).
5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus. (Replacing 4910 from frontline services)

11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm)Tom Yes, I know. PVR for the Pulse is only 4.
4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse. (Replacing 5160/1/2/3)
4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40. (Replacing the tired Artics).
5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A. (Replacing various Renowns from frontline services).
5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus. (Replacing 4910 from frontline services)

Does 4910 even appear on Soccerbus journeys?
northtynelinks2
11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm #255

(11 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm)Tom Yes, I know. PVR for the Pulse is only 4.
4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse. (Replacing 5160/1/2/3)
4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40. (Replacing the tired Artics).
5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A. (Replacing various Renowns from frontline services).
5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus. (Replacing 4910 from frontline services)

Does 4910 even appear on Soccerbus journeys?

Dan
Site Administrator
18138
11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:47 pm)Michael The current Prince Bishops doesn't look cheap, i really hope its not going to be Crusader job and be rubbish - if of course they receive them Tongue

That's the problem. I highly doubt it was cheap.
Even though it's only a few vinyls, I'd suggest it wasn't on the cheap side.

If GNE think it is to receive investment the following year (far too early to be discussing this, but hey ho!), I'm inclined to suggest that it will be a cheaper design to get them through the year prior to yet another cascade (probably the Fast Cats, or something similar).
(11 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm)Tom Yes, I know. PVR for the Pulse is only 4.
4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse. (Replacing 5160/1/2/3)
4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40. (Replacing the tired Artics).
5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A. (Replacing various Renowns from frontline services).
5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus. (Replacing 4910 from frontline services)

Where's aureolin with his contractual requirement line?! Tongue
(11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm)northtynelinks2 Does 4910 even appear on Soccerbus journeys?

It does.
Dan
11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm #256

(11 Feb 2014, 5:47 pm)Michael The current Prince Bishops doesn't look cheap, i really hope its not going to be Crusader job and be rubbish - if of course they receive them Tongue

That's the problem. I highly doubt it was cheap.
Even though it's only a few vinyls, I'd suggest it wasn't on the cheap side.

If GNE think it is to receive investment the following year (far too early to be discussing this, but hey ho!), I'm inclined to suggest that it will be a cheaper design to get them through the year prior to yet another cascade (probably the Fast Cats, or something similar).
(11 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm)Tom Yes, I know. PVR for the Pulse is only 4.
4989-92 - Riverside for the Pulse. (Replacing 5160/1/2/3)
4969/5211-13 - Riverside for the X40. (Replacing the tired Artics).
5214-16 - Chester-le-Street for the 71, branded as the ''Lambton Worm''. 5216 would be a spare for both the 71 and 34/34A. (Replacing various Renowns from frontline services).
5217 - Riverside for the Soccerbus. (Replacing 4910 from frontline services)

Where's aureolin with his contractual requirement line?! Tongue
(11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm)northtynelinks2 Does 4910 even appear on Soccerbus journeys?

It does.

Tom
6138
11 Feb 2014, 5:52 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm)northtynelinks2 Does 4910 even appear on Soccerbus journeys?

Yeah, mostly. It's normally on the Blaydon Racers when the Soccerbus isn't operating, but is branded for advertising.
Tom
11 Feb 2014, 5:52 pm #257

(11 Feb 2014, 5:51 pm)northtynelinks2 Does 4910 even appear on Soccerbus journeys?

Yeah, mostly. It's normally on the Blaydon Racers when the Soccerbus isn't operating, but is branded for advertising.

6857
11 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm)Dan We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! Tongue

If GNE think it's another Crusader, it's entirely possible we'll have a cheap in-house design unfortunately.

Simple answer to that net - it was either a plain purple one or use the present branding, so easy choice to make.

As for mentions of investment for Fab57, would I be as bold as to throw something I made earlier into the speculation Wink

Kuyoyo
11 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm #258

(11 Feb 2014, 5:43 pm)Dan We should hope that the current livery will be retained on the Mercs - should the PB receive them! Tongue

If GNE think it's another Crusader, it's entirely possible we'll have a cheap in-house design unfortunately.

Simple answer to that net - it was either a plain purple one or use the present branding, so easy choice to make.

As for mentions of investment for Fab57, would I be as bold as to throw something I made earlier into the speculation Wink

Dan
Site Administrator
18138
11 Feb 2014, 5:56 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm)Kuyoyo As for mentions of investment for Fab57, would I be as bold as to throw something I made earlier into the speculation Wink

[Image: 2151.gif]

Somewhat similar services, aren't they?
Dan
11 Feb 2014, 5:56 pm #259

(11 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm)Kuyoyo As for mentions of investment for Fab57, would I be as bold as to throw something I made earlier into the speculation Wink

[Image: 2151.gif]

Somewhat similar services, aren't they?

19181
11 Feb 2014, 5:59 pm
(11 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm)Kuyoyo Simple answer to that net - it was either a plain purple one or use the present branding, so easy choice to make.

As for mentions of investment for Fab57, would I be as bold as to throw something I made earlier into the speculation Wink

It looks much better on a versa than the current B10's.

bet it gets some streetshites though!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
11 Feb 2014, 5:59 pm #260

(11 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm)Kuyoyo Simple answer to that net - it was either a plain purple one or use the present branding, so easy choice to make.

As for mentions of investment for Fab57, would I be as bold as to throw something I made earlier into the speculation Wink

It looks much better on a versa than the current B10's.

bet it gets some streetshites though!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

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