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RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 6:53 pm)Aaron21 wrote Voltra is literally the most lazy branding ever. It's just a stickers that's it
I wouldn't really say lazy. Generic? Yeah, and wasn't it said at the time the E10s were launched that the Voltra name would go to most, or all, services with electric buses?
RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 6:35 pm)Aaron21 wrote It's gne. It's electric. It looks really similar to the Voltra 53/54. It'll be Voltra. Be shocked if it stays QuayCity

I initially thought that but then why didn’t they drop the ‘Q’ in preparation instead and have the route as 3A and 3B.
RE: Voltra 2
It's litral the 53/53 currently with the stripes in the colours in the same place & the black round the windows. Exactly the same as 53/54 were when they came up here
RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 7:18 pm)Aaron21 wrote It's litral the 53/53 currently with the stripes in the colours in the same place & the black round the windows. Exactly the same as 53/54 were when they came up here
Has someone just been trolling us the whole time and has just put a green voltra through photoshop or a colour changing website. 

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RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 7:02 pm)ne14ne1 wrote I initially thought that but then why didn’t they drop the ‘Q’ in preparation instead and have the route as 3A and 3B.

tbf they could be for the 57/58 or something else for all we know. The brands are very different, it's not as if they've used the same colours before on things. Massive assumption they're going on the Q3 imo especially the amount money they've spent on the Q3 and it's not exactly the busiest route in the world and it's operated by the wrong depot who would have little work without it. In comparison there's the 57 and 58 which are literally running around with tat the second which used to be a very busy route.

Not saying I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Q3 either mind.
RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 7:40 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Has someone just been trolling us the whole time and has just put a green voltra through photoshop or a colour changing website. 

Coming soon.....  Voltra 3 (See Attachment)  Big Grin Big Grin
Give it time Big Grin
Voltra 2
Could of called the QA/QB as the 55/55A , as that number will be available soon, then you have the 53/54/55 under the same Brand [emoji848]


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RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 8:22 pm)cbma06 wrote Could of called the QA/QB as the 55/55A , as that number will be available soon, then you have the 53/54/55 under the same Brand [emoji848]


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What, and just randomly renumber every route as they eventually become electric?
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(21 Jul 2022, 8:26 pm)ne14ne1 wrote What, and just randomly renumber every route as they eventually become electric?


Nope, it was a dig from the 55 withdrawl this weekend [emoji23]


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RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 7:49 pm)Storx wrote tbf they could be for the 57/58 or something else for all we know. The brands are very different, it's not as if they've used the same colours before on things. Massive assumption they're going on the Q3 imo especially the amount money they've spent on the Q3 and it's not exactly the busiest route in the world and it's operated by the wrong depot who would have little work without it. In comparison there's the 57 and 58 which are literally running around with tat the second which used to be a very busy route.

Not saying I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Q3 either mind.

Exactly this.

Whilst they could very well be for the Q3, they could equally be for anything.  Painting vehicles and then reallocating them or withdrawing them a short while later isn't exactly new ground for GNE currently.
RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 6:53 pm)Aaron21 wrote Voltra is literally the most lazy branding ever. It's just a stickers that's it
Have you even seen Arriva's 22/23/24 branding before? They can't even make the route map accurate. If that's not "lazy branding" then I don't know what is.

Calling the Voltra branding "lazy" is like calling a one bedroom flat in London "a bargain".
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RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 6:55 pm)JP6004 wrote Cobalt and Coast?
I think thats only like that because it was one of the first brands (correct me if i'm wrong) to be branded using the fleet livery style so maybes the reason why it has turned out different to how more modern Volvo B9TL's like the Red Kite Ranger or Tyne Valley 10 look
or whoever designed it
RE: Voltra 2
(22 Jul 2022, 9:12 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote I think thats only like that because it was one of the first brands (correct me if i'm wrong) to be branded using the fleet livery style so maybes the reason why it has turned out different to how more modern Volvo B9TL's like the Red Kite Ranger or Tyne Valley 10 look
or whoever designed it

The Tyne Valley Ten is much worse than Cobalt and Coast imo. There's so many branding errors with it. Chopped up stock images, the logo which is just aligned wrong, 'into Metrocentre'.

Horrid livery, who attempted to copy the best impression ones. The old one it replaced was 10x better.

Little 'replacetheword' / Peterlee Purples / Venture are the laziest ones imo in particular Coaster which just looked crap at the same time.
RE: Voltra 2
(22 Jul 2022, 9:45 pm)Storx wrote The Tyne Valley Ten is much worse than Cobalt and Coast imo. There's so many branding errors with it. Chopped up stock images, the logo which is just aligned wrong, 'into Metrocentre'.

Horrid livery, who attempted to copy the best impression ones. The old one it replaced was 10x better.

Little 'replacetheword' / Peterlee Purples / Venture are the laziest ones imo in particular Coaster which just looked crap at the same time.
The Coaster Livery is just awful.
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All designs after Cobalt & Coast were just a copy and past job. What did u change. The name and that was it. Nothing much else. Coaster has nothing on the side bar the name
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Not sure why people think the Coaster livery is bad, is simple yet effective.

Trust me I've seen liveries that are a hell of a lot worse over the years, here is some examples.

Jaylines Lime and Grape coloured Mercedes Benz 709D when they just put it into service in the previous operators livery - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...6884921242

Blackpool Palladium Livery looks like they just used undercoat for the livery - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...7779126285

Blackpool Metro Coastline Pool Livery version 1 (Mustard) also on loan to Arriva North East - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...1884391608

National Express West Midlands / Coventry new livery (again the obsession with grey) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...1974364534

Nexus Bus / GCT livery (suppose it matches the tape that keeps the buses together and yes the 4x4 is towing it) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...1058743001

There is plenty more subject to taste, then there's a few questionable advert liveries.
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(23 Jul 2022, 8:33 pm)Rapidsnap wrote Not sure why people think the Coaster livery is bad, is simple yet effective.

Trust me I've seen liveries that are a hell of a lot worse over the years, here is some examples.

Jaylines Lime and Grape coloured Mercedes Benz 709D when they just put it into service in the previous operators livery - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...6884921242

Blackpool Palladium Livery looks like they just used undercoat for the livery - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...7779126285

Blackpool Metro Coastline Pool Livery version 1 (Mustard) also on loan to Arriva North East - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...1884391608

National Express West Midlands / Coventry new livery (again the obsession with grey) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...1974364534

Nexus Bus / GCT livery (suppose it matches the tape that keeps the buses together and yes the 4x4 is towing it) - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...1058743001 

There is plenty more subject to taste, then there's a few questionable advert liveries.

You definitely don't like grey mind. Personally I think the two grey liveries look quite smart there, don't mind them at all.

We've had a fair share up here tbf. Magic Roundabout and Pronto being the two that stand out for GNE but this from Arriva tops them - https://www.flickr.com/photos/hhhumber/3551393815 imo or this from Rural Link which looks like they were drunk - https://www.flickr.com/photos/wanderer30/48692775726

Didn't one of Durham operators put GNE's ex Mini Metro Solo's straight out branded up aswell - Scarlett Band rings a bell.
RE: Voltra 2
(23 Jul 2022, 9:29 pm)Storx wrote You definitely don't like grey mind. Personally I think the two grey liveries look quite smart there, don't mind them at all.

We've had a fair share up here tbf. Magic Roundabout and Pronto being the two that stand out for GNE but this from Arriva tops them - https://www.flickr.com/photos/hhhumber/3551393815 imo or this from Rural Link which looks like they were drunk - https://www.flickr.com/photos/wanderer30/48692775726

Didn't one of Durham operators put GNE's ex Mini Metro Solo's straight out branded up aswell - Scarlett Band rings a bell.
Speaking of terrible Rural Link liveries: https://flic.kr/p/LH1HJC

And one they didn't even complete: https://flic.kr/p/Sxe63j


It was Scarlet Band that had the Metrocentre Mini's in full livery: https://flic.kr/p/2iBoTc8

Argubly looked worse after debranding: https://flic.kr/p/2jq6CA5

One even seems to be reverting back to that livery atm
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Not a big fan of grey liveries, just looks totally dull much of the time, don't mind the Nat Ex Platinum's though especially the electric examples, Rural Link however: https://flic.kr/p/2kQN6MQ
RE: Voltra 2
(23 Jul 2022, 9:57 pm)Jimmi wrote Speaking of terrible Rural Link liveries: https://flic.kr/p/LH1HJC

And one they didn't even complete: https://flic.kr/p/Sxe63j


It was Scarlet Band that had the Metrocentre Mini's in full livery: https://flic.kr/p/2iBoTc8

Argubly looked worse after debranding: https://flic.kr/p/2jq6CA5

One even seems to be reverting back to that livery atm



Not a big fan of grey liveries, just looks totally dull much of the time, don't mind the Nat Ex Platinum's though especially the electric examples, Rural Link however: https://flic.kr/p/2kQN6MQ

Forgot about those Rural Link buses, they're just a joke of a company though tbh, surprised they lasted as long as they did. Like the destination of just 'Farm' aswell guess it's too much work to put the Whitehouse part in.

Yeah thought it was them, mind I'm surprised GoAhead don't remove the branding first or at least do what Arriva do and spray paint lines through them so they're pretty much forced to repaint it. It's not the first GoAhead bus to be lingering around in branding, the X Lines coaches are about now and I can't see why anyone would want a bus with the branding.
RE: Voltra 2
(23 Jul 2022, 10:04 pm)Storx wrote Forgot about those Rural Link buses, they're just a joke of a company though tbh, surprised they lasted as long as they did. Like the destination of just 'Farm' aswell guess it's too much work to put the Whitehouse part in.

Yeah thought it was them, mind I'm surprised GoAhead don't remove the branding first or at least do what Arriva do and spray paint lines through them so they're pretty much forced to repaint it. It's not the first GoAhead bus to be lingering around in branding, the X Lines coaches are about now and I can't see why anyone would want a bus with the branding.

The destination on that B6BLE flicked between stuff, forgot what it said prior to flicking onto just Farm, likely included Stannington in there somewhere.

Problem with removing lots of vinyls like on the above example is it often damages the paintwork, Arriva weren't keen to debrand the ex Yorkshire E400's for ages for fears of damaged paintwork, GNE took much the same action by running Citaros in full Bluestar livery until they got their turn to be repainted into corporate livery.
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If anyone wants a laugh, you should see this attempt from cowboy op GRS Travel in the West Midlands, I'm sure one of the local enthusiasts said they used blackboard paint - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...0744198486

To be honest, I find grey liveries dull, I don't mind if it's a lighter metallic grey / silver like the current Cobalt Clipper livery. As a photographer of buses, I do find it more appealing to photo a bus that is well kept and smartly presented regardless of the liveries. I still photo the messy / bad stuff as variety is the spice of life, and sometimes you end up with a funny photograph or two.....

For example this Solo in Devon (which once ran in the North East with Veolia Durham) where the repanelling had gone terribly wrong - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photog...0719747847 - Just to add this was the bus that would take me from Totnes to Plymouth around every random village in between including driving through a beer garden of a pub because the village streets were so narrow.

This was the pub, the Ships Inn in the village of Ugborough - https://www.google.com/maps/@50.3866788,...312!8i6656
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RE: Voltra 2
(21 Jul 2022, 4:44 pm)ne14ne1 wrote I don’t think they should add Electrics or Voltra to the end of QuayCity. 

What happens in future, will every route name have that added to the end?

Red Kite Ranger Voltra…
East Gateshead Rider Voltra…
Tyne Valley Ten Voltra…

…who the hell is going to refer to them as that?

”This is the Cobalt & Coast Hydrogen Three One One service to Hadrian Park”.
I can't imagine the 47 being electric unless the technology vastly improves.