North East Buses

(08 Mar 2023, 5:42 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]

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I don't think there is a PVR 8 deckers which need replacing

The only route with a PVR of 8 that has deckers is the 16/16A. B5LH's are really not that good in the rural areas

(08 Mar 2023, 12:31 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/service-ch...m-26-March

I will give it 12-18months before the 'Coaster' is split again and the 97 makes a return in some form.

(08 Mar 2023, 6:14 pm)Arcticrossy92 wrote [ -> ]I will give it 12-18months before the 'Coaster' is split again and the 97 makes a return in some form.

They should of just got rid of the 96 and have Coaster redo that.

(08 Mar 2023, 6:14 pm)Arcticrossy92 wrote [ -> ]I will give it 12-18months before the 'Coaster' is split again and the 97 makes a return in some form.

I'll give it less than that.

(08 Mar 2023, 6:20 pm)MurdnunoC wrote [ -> ]I'll give it less than that.

I agree September/October time i was thinking

(08 Mar 2023, 6:07 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]Wow a whole need for another route. I've used both and the 41 gets hardly anyone. 41A on the other had gets quite a few people

It's to keep the PVR down. If they all ran by the 41A route they'd need another bus and it'll be quite marginal as it is. You could probably drop it down to every 20 minutes and get away with it but is that better - I don't know.

(08 Mar 2023, 6:15 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote [ -> ]They should of just got rid of the 96 and have Coaster redo that.

Why when the 96 came back because of the 1 being curtailed at Gateshead

Does anyone know if the 39/39A/39B are going back to every 15 mins or the 57 going back to every 20.

The 8 is...its just a matter of when

(08 Mar 2023, 12:09 pm).cbma06 wrote [ -> ]61/61a been put into the east Durham brand, saves a paint job.




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If there was any doubt about GNE’s new approach to branding - this has strong ‘deckchair rearrangement’ vibes.For GNE’s sake it would be nice for the process to be sped up, rather than the organic approach Arriva has taken which still sees Vehicles in Cotswold Stone.cbma06 Wrot

The minute the 41 (and 40) stopped being a circular is where it went wrong imo, aswell as losing the 42 at the time, thats when those routes did better

(07 Mar 2023, 12:37 pm)Thomas12 wrote [ -> ]There is also confirmation that the 1 will be replacing the 97.

Registration number PB0003954/1221
Licence Number PB0003954
Status Variation
Service number.1, 1
Service type Normal Stopping
Start point Whitley Bay
Finish point Metrocentre
Via Tynemouth, North Shields, Howdon, Wallsend, Byker, Newcastle, Gateshead, Whickham
Date received 07 Mar 2023
Effective date 26 Mar 2023

PVR will increase to 13.

so a PVR increase of around 4. They're going to struggle with the reliability as the 17 plates seem to just break down all of the time

(09 Mar 2023, 8:57 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]PVR will increase to 13.

Going off the timetable it'll be 14

(09 Mar 2023, 9:07 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]so a PVR increase of around 4. They're going to struggle with the reliability as the 17 plates seem to just break down all of the time

Probably have 5468/69 plus 5479/80 painted into Coaster then to make up the PVR.

Could then swap 5453-5461 at Consett for 5488/5490-5498 to place onto the 6, 66 plate Streetlites cover allocations for the 25/28/28B/29 at Riverside once theY move over from Washington, 5462-5467 would also be spare to be allocated elsewhere.

As for the spare Yutong's with the Q3 Frequency Reduction I could see these on the X66.

(09 Mar 2023, 10:34 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]Probably have 5468/69 plus 5479/80 painted into Coaster then to make up the PVR.

Could then swap 5453-5461 at Consett for 5488/5490-5498 to place onto the 6, 66 plate Streetlites cover allocations for the 25/28/28B/29 at Riverside once theY move over from Washington, 5462-5467 would also be spare to be allocated elsewhere.

As for the spare Yutong's with the Q3 Frequency Reduction I could see these on the X66.

Is branding still a thing?  Don't think there's been anything repainted to anything other than corporate since they got rid of Gilbert?

(09 Mar 2023, 10:34 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]Probably have 5468/69 plus 5479/80 painted into Coaster then to make up the PVR.

Is there any point with how unpredictable the 1 seems to be? Like another post pointed out earlier in the thread in the space of about 5-10 years the coasters changer 3 times. If they repainted more buses into coaster livery i doubt that they’ll be needing it within the next year or so.

(07 Mar 2023, 7:59 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Arriva will have surplus space when the Northumberland Line opens next year as it will hit some routes hard in particular the X7, X8, X9, X10, X11 and X21. Don't underestimate how much damage it will do for bus numbers as it will as they're really pushing it rather than it being some side tracked thing like Horden station especially if it's included in Network One which has been mentioned in the past.

While I think there will be some migration from buses to the train for people commuting to Newcastle, I don't see it being the death of ANEs services. 

The Blyth stations for example are out the way of the town centre, and services such as the X8/9/10/11 have served Cramlington for years where there's been a train link. For people in Bedlington, they'd first have to get down to Bedlington Station. There's also all the local links these services provide currently, which can't be replicated on the train (not everything is about commuting to Newcastle). You'd be surprised at how many short hop trips are made on the X21, for example.

(10 Mar 2023, 8:31 am)mb134 wrote [ -> ]While I think there will be some migration from buses to the train for people commuting to Newcastle, I don't see it being the death of ANEs services. 

The Blyth stations for example are out the way of the town centre, and services such as the X8/9/10/11 have served Cramlington for years where there's been a train link. For people in Bedlington, they'd first have to get down to Bedlington Station. There's also all the local links these services provide currently, which can't be replicated on the train (not everything is about commuting to Newcastle). You'd be surprised at how many short hop trips are made on the X21, for example.

Aye don't dispute but not think they might drop the X21 and X22 down to every 3p minutes for example and integrate them with the 1/2 better so you'd effectively have a 15 minute bus service in most parts anyway it's arguably better than 5 buses an hour which don't really work together. 

I don't know why but I have a feeling they might drop one of the X10 or X11 and just have one route doing it every 20 minutes throughout. Wouldn't be surprised if the 43/X8/X9 are meddled with aswell would help changeovers if the 43 are based at Blyth. 

Cramlington's train service is dire in comparison to this though to be fair. Always been an after thought imo. 

Who knows though - anything could happen tbh but I think the impact might be big personally. I'd walk 15 minutes to catch the train over the X7 personally even known timewise it'll be similar but it's the reliability factor of it. The X7 is attrocious at peak times so you can't really trust it.

(07 Mar 2023, 10:28 am)Ex-conductor wrote [ -> ]GNE also merged the 1 with the eastern section of the erstwhile 85/86 between North Shields and Whitley Bay, taking the 1 through Marden Estate and giving a very indirect route between those two towns. Annoyingly the western side was covered by the W3, a Nexus-supported bus service for which the contract was at first given to GNE. The whole route of the 85/86 circle had been, at the time, a commercial service.
When the 1/85/86 merger took place, buses along the sea front between Tynemouth and Culleroats, ceased, as did buses along the full length of the Broadway between Tynemouth and Whitley Bay with the withdrawal of the 310.

It's interesting to note that, from a very good network of bus services in the North Shields/Tynemouth area once operated by the Tynemouth bus company, only two GNE routes will serve those areas after 26 March (the 1 and the 307).

Indeed.  A far cry from being 'The Driving Force of North Tyneside'

(10 Mar 2023, 1:35 pm)Chris 1 wrote [ -> ]Indeed.  A far cry from being 'The Driving Force of North Tyneside'

This is what happens when private bus companies is all for profit these days instead of passengers needs, deregulation and profiteering destroyed the bus industry outside of London


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