(27 Nov 2016, 3:37 pm)Andreos1 wrote There's the rumours that have been mentioned for the 49's (saw standing loads the other day when the X66 was running in 3's). The rumours about the 27 have gone quiet, but it would maybe be worth trying to work out where those Mercs are going to end up - if replaced at some point in 2017.

I would imagine they'll be on the 49's until at least next year though... fair enough if they are moving else where but seems daft to put a Citaro on the X5 timetable and then not allocate then from the day of the changes.

Ethusiasts will notice more than normal passengers though.

(27 Nov 2016, 3:44 pm)Michael wrote I would imagine they'll be on the 49's until at least next year though... fair enough if they are moving else where but seems daft to put a Citaro on the X5 timetable and then not allocate then from the day of the changes.

Ethusiasts will notice more than normal passengers though.

I've heard beginning of next year January February for 49s with the Mercs going on the 12&28

(27 Nov 2016, 5:26 pm)Ryan99 wrote I've heard beginning of next year January February for 49s with the Mercs going on the 12&28

Didn't busman T mention that Chester didn't operate mercs and couldn't see them getting any. Could maybe imagine the 28s getting younger solars though.

(27 Nov 2016, 5:26 pm)Ryan99 wrote I've heard beginning of next year January February for 49s with the Mercs going on the 12&28

While it is possible and not down to me, I don't like the idea of upgrading the 12/12A but not the X30/X31 despite being two completely different services.

(27 Nov 2016, 5:26 pm)Ryan99 wrote I've heard beginning of next year January February for 49s with the Mercs going on the 12&28

i also think this will happen

(27 Nov 2016, 5:38 pm)S813 FVK wrote While it is possible and not down to me, I don't like the idea of upgrading the 12/12A but not the X30/X31 despite being two completely different services.

12 yes because them omnicities are awful every one of them

(27 Nov 2016, 3:44 pm)Michael wrote I would imagine they'll be on the 49's until at least next year though... fair enough if they are moving else where but seems daft to put a Citaro on the X5 timetable and then not allocate then from the day of the changes.

Ethusiasts will notice more than normal passengers though.

What was the service that had branded Cadets (?) on the timetable and didn't actually get what was being advertised? It may have been a Deptford service. Can't remember 100%

(27 Nov 2016, 7:09 pm)Andreos1 wrote What was the service that had branded Cadets (?) on the timetable and didn't actually get what was being advertised? It may have been a Deptford service. Can't remember 100%

It was the 39 - had a Black Cats branded Cadet on it.

(27 Nov 2016, 7:11 pm)S813 FVK wrote It was the 39 - had a Black Cats branded Cadet on it.

It was the 33/33A i think.

(27 Nov 2016, 3:44 pm)Michael wrote I would imagine they'll be on the 49's until at least next year though... fair enough if they are moving else where but seems daft to put a Citaro on the X5 timetable and then not allocate then from the day of the changes.

Ethusiasts will notice more than normal passengers though.

You say this, wonder how many people have picked up on the fact that the Waggonway timetable depicts a Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renown with the Waggonway branding and is not the same colour as the buses currently used on the service. My point being, they put a Renown on the timetable but then put Solar's on it instead, so what appears on the timetables aren't necessarily going to become a reality, that said I think the X5 could potentially get Citaro's in the near future.

(27 Nov 2016, 7:34 pm)Jimmi wrote You say this, wonder how many people have picked up on the fact that the Waggonway timetable depicts a Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renown with the Waggonway branding and is not the same colour as the buses currently used on the service. My point being, they put a Renown on the timetable but then put Solar's on it instead, so what appears on the timetables aren't necessarily going to become a reality, that said I think the X5 could potentially get Citaro's in the near future.

And further to the above point, the Northern timetables show a branded B9 as opposed to an Omnidekka.

That being said, the switch to a Citaro when they already had a solar diagram strongly suggests that something is going to happen soon.

(27 Nov 2016, 7:34 pm)Jimmi wrote You say this, wonder how many people have picked up on the fact that the Waggonway timetable depicts a Volvo B10BLE/Wright Renown with the Waggonway branding and is not the same colour as the buses currently used on the service. My point being, they put a Renown on the timetable but then put Solar's on it instead, so what appears on the timetables aren't necessarily going to become a reality, that said I think the X5 could potentially get Citaro's in the near future.

That was my exact point but i explained it wrong and you explained it better

But ye the X5 should be in line to get Citaro's in the near future

I would like to see an upgrade on the 93/94

(27 Nov 2016, 9:06 pm)V514DFT wrote I would like to see an upgrade on the 93/94

Aye, I agree with you there mind, stick some Merc's on The Loop.

(27 Nov 2016, 9:06 pm)V514DFT wrote I would like to see an upgrade on the 93/94

Have the Scanias ever been off the 93/94? Think they must be some of the only buses that haven't changed allocations

(27 Nov 2016, 9:10 pm)Tom wrote Have the Scanias ever been off the 93/94? Think they must be some of the only buses that haven't changed allocations

They haven't, All ( excluding 5225/6 ) remain in good shape for quite a demanding route, Various steep climbs along the route.

(27 Nov 2016, 9:14 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote They haven't, All ( excluding 5225/6 ) remain in good shape for quite a demanding route, Various steep climbs along the route.

Thought so, they are some of my favourite solars.

(27 Nov 2016, 9:09 pm)citaro5284 wrote Aye, I agree with you there mind, stick some Merc's on The Loop.

Is that a hint Citaro?

(27 Nov 2016, 9:15 pm)Tom wrote Thought so, they are some of my favourite solars.

5220 is the best one on the Loop imo.

(27 Nov 2016, 9:17 pm)Michael wrote Is that a hint Citaro?

no, just a personal opinion Michael.

(27 Nov 2016, 9:21 pm)citaro5284 wrote no, just a personal opinion Michael.

, i do think the loop should be upgraded though.

I think the Citaros would suit black, if they kept it black.

Some of the Scanias on the Green Arrow 97 are older than the Loop examples, most have been on since the Highwayman days. Some are 51 reg examples and in my opinion should take priority over the loop.

Don't forget when the Loop buses were new and 5227 5228 they were new to Chester depot and used on the 21 when it was branded as 24/7 . Not surprisingly they were shipped out pretty quick

Be surprised if the 28s got any sort of upgrade. Though the current Solars seem even less reliable than the DAFs where (and those heaps carried on for years after they should have) Chester seem to cover it well enough with plain red Solars and Streetlite subs.

(27 Nov 2016, 9:39 pm)Michael wrote , i do think the loop should be upgraded though.

I think the Citaros would suit black, if they kept it black.

Rather have mercs any day a streetlite in black would look like a hearse

(27 Nov 2016, 8:54 am)Andreos1 wrote Without the radio, it wont be out. I am dying to know how drivers/control communicate with each other adequately, to pull it out of service on a daily basis. I would have thought whatever method used then (whether its smoke signals, morse code or mobile phone) would be suitable on a night too.

Are radio's needed on the x10 but not the x9?

Whoever was driving 4967 this morning on the Q3 wants his licence taken away.

Doesn't indicate on Percy St and tries to swing in from the right into Haymarket. Narrowly avoiding a parked 306 which has to be moved so he can swing around and blocking the road to an ambulance.

Just lazy

Does any know were abouts 9098 is today

Passed me heading north on the A19 earlier on an X9 so should be on the 1030 off Eldon Square I believe


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(27 Nov 2016, 10:21 pm)a718abb wrote Some of the Scanias on the Green Arrow 97 are older than the Loop examples, most have been on since the Highwayman days. Some are 51 reg examples and in my opinion should take priority over the loop.

Didn't some Scanias on the Green Arrow receive upgrades to make them Euro 5 equivalent?  Government funding which came via Gateshead Council IIRC.  Maybe this will have some bearing on where they end up?