(04 Aug 2024, 8:09 pm)Ryland wrote [ -> ]2863 is somewhere st the moment. Not sure whether it's in whitby depot parked up or waiting to be fixed at Redcar.
2857 a flying machine
2866 abit sluggish
I think they may just use a random full size bus on the 95 till things are sorted. Could just use a temsa as purely for the 95 and keep the solo for the 96
They may bring a small e200mmc from Darlington as a last resort
(05 Aug 2024, 7:18 am)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]They may bring a small e200mmc from Darlington as a last resort
The E200's can't run the routes due to grounding issues. Also why should Redcar, now be robbing buses from Darlington to sort out their problems again. Might aswell just send every 72 plate there.
(05 Aug 2024, 7:42 am)Storx wrote [ -> ]The E200's can't run the routes due to grounding issues. Also why should Redcar, now be robbing buses from Darlington to sort out their problems again. Might aswell just send every 72 plate there.
1759 could manage the route in sure an e200 could manage.
1438 is on the 95 today
Presumably 2866 is on the 96.
Still no 2863?
2857 is on the 81
(05 Aug 2024, 8:11 am)Ryland wrote [ -> ]1759 could manage the route in sure an e200 could manage.
1438 is on the 95 today
Presumably 2866 is on the 96.
Still no 2863?
2857 is on the 81
The Darts could manage the Jesmond routes which the MMC's couldn't. I believe the MMC's have a lower frontend that the Darts so they'll struggle. There's also the problem that the Darlington routes can only run with midibuses aswell due to the tight corners and narrow streets so you'll just be moving the problem from one depot to another.
2857 has been pulled off the 81 btw, just had a look. Not sure if it's technical or not so maybe that might be heading to Whitby now?
They've had their moneys worth out of the Solos. Surely their time is running out though. The best solution is just to buy some new ones.
Solos are still being manufactured, they'll be a lot cheaper than full sized buses, and Arriva would only need a small number of them.
(05 Aug 2024, 9:01 am)tvd wrote [ -> ]They've had their moneys worth out of the Solos. Surely their time is running out though. The best solution is just to buy some new ones.
Solos are still being manufactured, they'll be a lot cheaper than full sized buses, and Arriva would only need a small number of them.
I know this might be a bizarre opinion but personally if I was Arriva, I'd be looking at binning off the 95/96 contracts then getting 9 Enviro 200 MMC's as:
1 Darlington - Replace 2841
8 Ashington - 57/57A/434
I'm not sure those routes are really worth it alone to have a microfleet of Solo's which they haven't purchased for years, unless they can nab some of the WF Streetlite's from down South to run it. There is currently 3 without a home at Hemel Hempstead, for example.
Adding to the discussion about the minibuses based at Whitby. They are normally also used on two schools services - obviously not this month during the holidays.
(05 Aug 2024, 8:17 am)Storx wrote [ -> ]The Darts could manage the Jesmond routes which the MMC's couldn't. I believe the MMC's have a lower frontend that the Darts so they'll struggle. There's also the problem that the Darlington routes can only run with midibuses aswell due to the tight corners and narrow streets so you'll just be moving the problem from one depot to another.
2857 has been pulled off the 81 btw, just had a look. Not sure if it's technical or not so maybe that might be heading to Whitby now?
(05 Aug 2024, 7:42 am)Storx wrote [ -> ]The E200's can't run the routes due to grounding issues. Also why should Redcar, now be robbing buses from Darlington to sort out their problems again. Might aswell just send every 72 plate there.
If there's no choice then there may after to and it's not Robing so please use the correct term
It's on the 63
1459 is at Redcar on the 63
(05 Aug 2024, 1:39 pm)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]If there's no choice then there may after to and it's not Robing so please use the correct term
It's on the 63
1459 is at Redcar on the 63
1554 is also is on the 62 today
(05 Aug 2024, 9:17 am)Storx wrote [ -> ]I know this might be a bizarre opinion but personally if I was Arriva, I'd be looking at binning off the 95/96 contracts then getting 9 Enviro 200 MMC's as:
1 Darlington - Replace 2841
8 Ashington - 57/57A/434
I'm not sure those routes are really worth it alone to have a microfleet of Solo's which they haven't purchased for years, unless they can nab some of the WF Streetlite's from down South to run it. There is currently 3 without a home at Hemel Hempstead, for example.
Maybe, but a small fleet of Solos (or other minibuses) would allow them to run these routes and the school contracts as now, and also tender for other contracts that might turn up.
Even having them almost as spare buses could be useful. We often see a Solo on the 81 for example, or other routes, and they must save a bit on fuel if you add up all the mileage they do whilst on full sized bus routes. Ok, a very small amount in the total scheme of things but handy nontheless.
1554 still at Redcar today and is on the x4 along with 1556
(06 Aug 2024, 6:34 am)tvd wrote [ -> ]Maybe, but a small fleet of Solos (or other minibuses) would allow them to run these routes and the school contracts as now, and also tender for other contracts that might turn up.
Even having them almost as spare buses could be useful. We often see a Solo on the 81 for example, or other routes, and they must save a bit on fuel if you add up all the mileage they do whilst on full sized bus routes. Ok, a very small amount in the total scheme of things but handy nontheless.
Aye no arguments there really. Just the issue is they really need to be wheel forward due to grounding issues.
From what I've heard on the grapevine, obviously Chinese whispers might have impacted it, Switch/Optare or whatever they're called this week have awful after support and it's why most are dodging their products.
Is it worth have a microfleet of 3 buses, let's say just to run that route when you could otherwise get fleet continuity and just have a full midibus fleet of short Enviro 200 MMC's if that makes sense.
If I did keep the 95/96 I'd probably look at the cheapest crap you can buy, Ivecos or what not and then if you lose the contract just bin them off tbh. Probably easier. It doesn't really matter if the customers like the buses as your paid anyway. Same with the 434 really.
(06 Aug 2024, 7:44 am)Ryland wrote [ -> ]1554 still at Redcar today and is on the x4 along with 1556
1554 was taken off in Middlesbrough, replaced by 1436 off a 63 and returned to Stockton. It’s out on 5s now tracking as 1553
(06 Aug 2024, 7:44 am)Ryland wrote [ -> ]1554 still at Redcar today and is on the x4 along with 1556
(06 Aug 2024, 2:59 pm)RRA219X wrote [ -> ]1554 was taken off in Middlesbrough, replaced by 1436 off a 63 and returned to Stockton. It’s out on 5s now tracking as 1553
At lest it got replaced with a more relble bus 1436
According to BusTimes tracking (if accurate), 2857 was swapped off the 81 in Redcar yesterday, then worked an X4 to Whitby where it was swapped with 1433 onto the 95. Tracking today showing 1433 on X4 with 2857 on 95.
cainebjAccording to BusTimes tracking (if accurate), 2857 was swapped off the 81 in Redcar yesterday, then worked an X4 to Whitby where it was swapped with 1433 onto the 95. Tracking today showing 1433 on X4 with 2857 on 95.
Indeed
Spottybus
Didn’t manage the full day as it broke down near Eston Square
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That’s redcar for you, they seem to be pinching Stocktons buses to cover their routes, now 2870 is in a complete mess they probably pinch another solo from Darlington which would mean Redcar would lose a pulsar
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That's where you incorrect Redcar won't lose a pulsar I really wish people would stop jumping to incorrect information
(07 Aug 2024, 5:20 pm)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]cainebjAccording to BusTimes tracking (if accurate), 2857 was swapped off the 81 in Redcar yesterday, then worked an X4 to Whitby where it was swapped with 1433 onto the 95. Tracking today showing 1433 on X4 with 2857 on 95.
Indeed
Spottybus
Didn’t manage the full day as it broke down near Eston Square
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That’s redcar for you, they seem to be pinching Stocktons buses to cover their routes, now 2870 is in a complete mess they probably pinch another solo from Darlington which would mean Redcar would lose a pulsar
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That's where you incorrect Redcar won't lose a pulsar I really wish people would stop jumping to incorrect information
Could just be rumours but Darlington are due to loose solo 2841 to Whitby apparently
(07 Aug 2024, 5:54 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote [ -> ]Could just be rumours but Darlington are due to loose solo 2841 to Whitby apparently
Atm whitby has 2866 and 2857 2863 could be at Redcar receiving maintenance or at the whitby outstation but that one not been seen
Question
Is 2870 still in the ditch in Grosmont?
If not do we know where it currently is?
(08 Aug 2024, 12:25 am)Spottybus wrote [ -> ]No, it’s currently at Redcar depot atm I think
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Doesn't look like that's coming back!
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(08 Aug 2024, 12:25 am)Spottybus wrote [ -> ]No, it’s currently at Redcar depot atm I think
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A bit of T Cut and that will be as good as new.
1459Y YJ62 JPX is tracking on the 81 Today. New transferred bus or a loan does anyone know. Or is it one of Redcars but with different Ticketer.
Also 2870 is tracking today aswell on the 62. Very Strange
Im told 1459Y is 1471 while 2870 is 1567 .
2863 is in the shed at Redcar i seen it this afternoon while I was waiking past
SpSN is only 1459 nothing new
2841 as now transferred to Redcar as replacement for 2870
(05 Aug 2024, 7:42 am)Storx wrote [ -> ]The E200's can't run the routes due to grounding issues. Also why should Redcar, now be robbing buses from Darlington to sort out their problems again. Might aswell just send every 72 plate there.
Yeah I’ve driven round the routes many times and while Solos are used on the 96, the roads really aren’t great and they’re arguably too big. It’s tendered for as a 16 seater but Arriva link it with the 323 school which requires a 30 seat (or thereabouts). They also run the 318 which is on the 95 board. I would have them the other way around as the 318 requires a minibus while 323 you could theoretically run any single deck on (though I am sure a DD has done it before, albeit presumably missing Castleton station!)
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(09 Aug 2024, 11:17 am)Mark66t wrote [ -> ]2841 as now transferred to Redcar as replacement for 2870
Redcar aren't losing anything in this place are they?
And it's 2841 in the depot now. Noticed it flying around darlo yesterday
Ryland
Redcar aren't losing anything in this place are they?
And it's 2841 in the depot now. Noticed it flying around darlo yesterday
Nothing is leaving Redcar I been told 2841 was on reserve list