Stepped on s couple of people's toes there - I'm sorry. In what was a clumsy way I was trying and hoping to generate a little more interaction between our members.
With regard to my PVR request. Thanks who did come back and let me know. I actually made it more but I'm just an outsider looking in.
Interesting, and doing my own research here. Dormanstown/Redcar have a fleet of some 49 vehicles. Most of them,if I'm correct,looking at Bustimes just, on the road/in service.
So no shortage of vehicles to cover all the boards. Unless I'm wrong of course!
Are all the evoras being debranded from the Yorkshire coast livery. Seems a bit pointless of them having it if they are
(06 Feb 2026, 4:51 pm)Ryland wrote [ -> ]Are all the evoras being debranded from the Yorkshire coast livery. Seems a bit pointless of them having it if they are
Yeah apparently the new owners of Arriva don’t want route branding they want everything in Journey Mark.
Once all the Cotswold Stone, Frequenta, Max, Sapphire and Interurban liveries go, it's gonna be such a shame in my opinion. I understand the fleet can look an entire mess with a huge range of liveries which were designed to put on certain routes. I hope they still have 2 different liveries going forward like Stagecoach do as personally it will all look bland with everything in Journey Mark.
Also, I hope Arriva may also deep more into the advertising Market going forward as there is potential to make more money for the company with ads for food places, museums, destinations etc... I know they still put some on some of the buses but I feel like they ain't really making that much of a effort. Both inside and outside the vehicles advertising the latest stuff. That's if they are planning on scrapping route branding all together. Just would seem like a waste of a good opportunity having everything Journey Mark and having only Arriva Stickers inside.
The idea of route and service branding works - short term. Almost inevitably ideas come and go and vehicles get moved to operate different touted and from different depots. The only way it can work long term is for vehicles to be dedicted to and remain there. The way Arriva is moving vehicles around presently and the expected intakes of new fleet should demonstrate this.
(06 Feb 2026, 5:27 pm)Mike_98 wrote [ -> ]Once all the Cotswold Stone, Frequenta, Max, Sapphire and Interurban liveries go, it's gonna be such a shame in my opinion. I understand the fleet can look an entire mess with a huge range of liveries which were designed to put on certain routes. I hope they still have 2 different liveries going forward like Stagecoach do as personally it will all look bland with everything in Journey Mark.
Also, I hope Arriva may also deep more into the advertising Market going forward as there is potential to make more money for the company with ads for food places, museums, destinations etc... I know they still put some on some of the buses but I feel like they ain't really making that much of a effort. Both inside and outside the vehicles advertising the latest stuff. That's if they are planning on scrapping route branding all together. Just would seem like a waste of a good opportunity having everything Journey Mark and having only Arriva Stickers inside.
Arriva dont own the advertising space on their vehicles. An external company called Global own the space and arrange the adverts.
(06 Feb 2026, 5:49 pm)robisdave4554 wrote [ -> ]The idea of route and service branding works - short term. Almost inevitably ideas come and go and vehicles get moved to operate different touted and from different depots. The only way it can work long term is for vehicles to be dedicted to and remain there. The way Arriva is moving vehicles around presently and the expected intakes of new fleet should demonstrate this.
See I always think it's a bad idea personally, especially with a network like Arriva's as it means buses are fixed on a route or are off brand.
I'm not sure what happens down in Teesside but up in Blyth and Ashington if buses are late coming in, they're just swapped around to get things back on time; it's better than what happens at GNE imo where things are cut short, or one bus is 15 minutes late and there's another bus from the same depot just sitting there doing nothing because it's 'the wrong brand'.
Secondly for something like the X4, if the 63 ends up getting Evora's aswell; you've got a situation where there's 8 of them getting rat arsed over the hills every day and the other ones are just sitting around doing easy routes all day - another serious issue with GNE really. It's much better for one day it'll do the 63, then the next day it does the X4 and repeat.
The Evoras came to Redcar to replace the ageing Pulsars that couldn't cope with the demands of the X4 and possibly to allow the crappy Temsa fleet to be withdrawn. The idea of the route branding meant virtually nothing as apart from the fact they are in a powerful vehicle there is nothing else special about them. Clearly Evoras - if that is Redcar are getting anymore - for the 63''s is a good an necessary one as the Pulsars, seriously good that they once were, can't go on for ever. We wait and see what happens.
(06 Feb 2026, 5:27 pm)Mike_98 wrote [ -> ]Once all the Cotswold Stone, Frequenta, Max, Sapphire and Interurban liveries go, it's gonna be such a shame in my opinion. I understand the fleet can look an entire mess with a huge range of liveries which were designed to put on certain routes. I hope they still have 2 different liveries going forward like Stagecoach
Stagecoach don't now. Everything will be steel blue.
Does anyone know what's tracking as redcar spare today as its dual tracking on the 62 and x2/3/64/64a
1440 has to be one of the fittest Pulsars in the fleet. Only had it for a short trip out of Boro on a 5a just and its driver was certainly giving it legs! Don't know what its like climbing but on that showing it must give the Evoras a bit of a run
Also. Anyone confirm if the 62/63/64/64a and 5a are interlocking?
(16 Feb 2026, 5:34 pm)robisdave4554 wrote [ -> ] 1440 has to be one of the fittest Pulsars in the fleet. Only had it for a short trip out of Boro on a 5a just and its driver was certainly giving it legs! Don't know what its like climbing but on that showing it must give the Evoras a bit of a run
Also. Anyone confirm if the 62/63/64/64a and 5a are interlocking?
Always enjoyed riding on that one. It seems to have more umph than a lot of the others
Whoops! Should have read are the 62/63/64/64a and 5a interworking?7
(16 Feb 2026, 6:16 pm)robisdave4554 wrote [ -> ]Whoops! Should have read are the 62/63/64/64a and 5a interworking?7
No, as per the PVR's for the depot which I shared with you previously, the 62 is standalone, the 63 interworks with the 5A and the 64/64A/X2/X3 interwork.
Thanks Peter. That's what I thought except I thought I saw a 63 work into the bus station (at M'bro) and out as a 62? That many movements the old grey matter got confused.
(Yesterday, 1:03 am)robisdave4554 wrote [ -> ]Thanks Peter. That's what I thought except I thought I saw a 63 work into the bus station (at M'bro) and out as a 62? That many movements the old grey matter got confused.
The 08:58 63 from South Lackenby works onto a 62 upon arrival at Middlesbrough. So assuming you witnessed the 09:38 62, this is why.
63/64/65 will all interwork from 29 March.
Bang on ! That was when. Look today at the world of. Arriva. The 62 trip arriving Middlesbrough BS at 1206 was 7401. This was to be swopped for 4505 which worked into MBS at 12 something on an X93. I can only assume one of the trips ran late as by the time the changeover was effected the 62 trip from MBS at 1214 was 20 minutes down and got further delayed as the young lady driver was having problems with Ticketer which,given we're now on a vehicle normally allocated to the X4/X93 boards was programmed accordingly. She did her best but essentially it was free rides back to Redcar!!
Then the 28/81 issue surfaces again, as discussed on another thread. Apparently come the changes and combination of these routes in March extra running and layovers are being incorporated in the timetable? It needs it! The 1500 service 28 was on the stand promptly then took a further 11 minutes to load, weave out of the Bus Station and through the crappy traffic lights at the entrance. Our driver having lost more time getting up Marton Road had clearly thrown the towel in. Imagine the frustrations of those so effected by these occurrences. Not isolated when you check in here.
(Yesterday, 6:08 pm)220631612 wrote [ -> ]https://www.moorsbus.org/timetables#timetables-sundays
Redcar depot will be back operating Moorsbus this year
Darlington & Stockton depots are also back on Moorsbus this summer. Darlington get a long run out on Sundays, M3 to Pickering, M7 to Helmsley then M8 to Castle Howard.
More new areas for Arriva this summer on Dalesbus again, more or less as per last year except the 832 will now run Hawes to Kirkby Lonsdale via Garsdale and Sedburgh:
https://www.dalesbus.org/832.html
Its good to read that Arriva are back in the Moorsbus fold this season. Sensible that a local operator is to be involved. Northstar, as far as I am aware did a good job and important they were involved but surely it was unsustainable for them to be sending their vehicles down to Guisborough from their home depot?
o we know if this is reason why Arriva are back?