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(14 Jul 2022, 6:24 pm)reymyster9 wrote [ -> ]JH also have MX60BXD, a former Peter Hogg Streetlite WF that hasn't entered service yet.

Thanks. Any idea when it will enter service?

Peter Hogg seems to have a small fleet.
(14 Jul 2022, 6:55 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]Thanks. Any idea when it will enter service?

Peter Hogg seems to have a small fleet.
It was painted a few months ago into red, I believe they've had a few mechanical issues with it but it'll probably be used for their new public service contracts alongside the other WF and the E200s I'd imagine.
(14 Jul 2022, 7:19 pm)reymyster9 wrote [ -> ]It was painted a few months ago into red, I believe they've had a few mechanical issues with it but it'll probably be used for their new public service contracts alongside the other WF and the E200s I'd imagine.

Most of JH's single decks are red for some reason. A few mechanical issues doesn't sound like a great start for the new public service work. The WF and E200s currently do scholars trips, I'm not sure if JH are still doing those from September though. Expect from being on scholars for a while the interiors are probably a bit of a state.
(14 Jul 2022, 7:27 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]Most of JH's single decks are red for some reason. A few mechanical issues doesn't sound like a great start for the new public service work. The WF and E200s currently do scholars trips, I'm not sure if JH are still doing those from September though. Expect from being on scholars for a while the interiors are probably a bit of a state.
JH have lost all of their Nexus school services, GNE picked up 61.
(14 Jul 2022, 7:41 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]JH have lost all of their Nexus school services, GNE picked up 61.

What is the pvr of the 30/31, i know the 82/82A requires 3 vehicles.
(14 Jul 2022, 8:13 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote [ -> ]What is the pvr of the 30/31, i know the 82/82A requires 3 vehicles.

The PVR is just 1
R.I.P the short Amazon 4 runs from Heworth on a evening
(14 Jul 2022, 8:21 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]R.I.P the short Amazon 4 runs from Heworth on a evening
They are being replaced with 58/X58.
I notice Nexus has been getting some stick despite this being a GNE thread! GNE cuts mean Nexus have to step in. [Nexus] are not perfect but I tell ya what, bring back the PTE level of control seen before Oct 86. Those too young to remember, pick ya selves a timetable from EBay and admire the frequency of such a comprehensive network. The Tories destroyed it overnight.
Seems to be no peak time 55 runs, they are very popular, quite strange

I don't see why the 861, couldn't run dead to Doxford on an evening to Operate a 16:07 service.
(15 Jul 2022, 2:45 am)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]Seems to be no peak time 55 runs, they are very popular, quite strange

I don't see why the 861, couldn't run dead to Doxford on an evening to Operate a 16:07 service.


The X20 diverts into Doxford Park on a morning and afternoon peak to cover the loss of the 55.

The Stagecoach X1 also runs.


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When the 39B replaces the 37 will the extra peak time only journeys get withdrawn.
(15 Jul 2022, 10:31 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote [ -> ]When the 39B replaces the 37 will the extra peak time only journeys get withdrawn.

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/services/G...2022-07-29&direction=inbound
(15 Jul 2022, 10:34 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/services/G...2022-07-29&direction=inbound

Why was the 37 half-hourly in the peaks, half the time it was dead?
Any word on Ticket acceptance on the 725/82 for gne tickets
(16 Jul 2022, 4:18 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]Any word on Ticket allowance on the 725/82?

Yes, you are allowed tickets on both services.
Which vehicle was allocated on Today's X11?
(16 Jul 2022, 5:56 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]Which vehicle was allocated on Today's X11?


7132


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(16 Jul 2022, 6:45 pm)TEN 6083 wrote [ -> ]7132


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Why couldn't a Tacho'd B9TL be allocated instead? Yeah not ideal for lack of facilities but way better than leaving punters behind (or worst case only on common sections with the X93 further down). Arriva use normal service buses on the 685/X15/X18 absolutely fine.
(16 Jul 2022, 7:00 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]Why couldn't a Tacho'd B9TL be allocated instead? Yeah not ideal for lack of facilities but way better than leaving punters behind (or worst case only on common sections with the X93 further down). Arriva use normal service buses on the 685/X15/X18 absolutely fine.
I would rather a bus then a coach
Hopefully through these services change it will correct a X5/X15 vehicle during the day which appears on the 47 later is the evening will be sorted
(14 Jul 2022, 10:04 pm)Economic505 wrote [ -> ]I notice Nexus has been getting some stick despite this being a GNE thread! GNE cuts mean Nexus have to step in. [Nexus] are not perfect but I tell ya what, bring back the PTE level of control seen before Oct 86. Those too young to remember, pick ya selves a timetable from EBay and admire the frequency of such a comprehensive network. The Tories destroyed it overnight.

From the 1974 Tyne and Wear PTE Newcastle & Gateshead Timetable:
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Wow 3 buses to kibblesworth... thats a novelty!

Also i see the 46 goes though gosforth. any idea where this bus headed as it isnt the same as the current arriva 45 as that was the 398 - and yes i do remeber that and the 397

Finally no dupe numbers that i can see either!
(17 Jul 2022, 9:02 am)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]Wow 3 buses to kibblesworth... thats a novelty!

Also i see the 46 goes though gosforth. any idea where this bus headed as it isnt the same as the current arriva 45 as that was the 398 - and yes i do remeber that and the 397

Finally no dupe numbers that i can see either!

46 went to Polwarth Drive, as it does now. 

It was grouped with the 45 and 47, I believe. 45 went to Gosforth Park while the 47 terminated somewhere in Fawdon.

All three were operated by Tyne and Wear PTE.
(17 Jul 2022, 9:17 am)MurdnunoC wrote [ -> ]46 went to Polwarth Drive, as it does now. 

It was grouped with the 45 and 47, I believe. 45 went to Gosforth Park while the 47 terminated somewhere in Fawdon.

All three were operated by Tyne and Wear PTE.

i must say i thought the 46 didn't start until the early existence of northumbria  motor services? I certainly don't remember seeing it at the Haymarket when waiting for the 397/44 home on a Saturday afternoon, although that was almost 40 years ago!
(17 Jul 2022, 10:27 am)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]i must say i thought the 46 didn't start until the early existence of northumbria  motor services? I certainly don't remember seeing it at the Haymarket when waiting for the 397/44 home on a Saturday afternoon, although that was almost 40 years ago!

It started at Central Station, IIRC.

I think it passed over from Tyne and Wear PTE to United sometime in the early 80s, probably coinciding with the renumbering of the 397/398.
(14 Jul 2022, 10:04 pm)Economic505 wrote [ -> ]I notice Nexus has been getting some stick despite this being a GNE thread! GNE cuts mean Nexus have to step in. [Nexus] are not perfect but I tell ya what, bring back the PTE level of control seen before Oct 86. Those too young to remember, pick ya selves a timetable from EBay and admire the frequency of such a comprehensive network. The Tories destroyed it overnight.

(17 Jul 2022, 10:27 am)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]i must say i thought the 46 didn't start until the early existence of northumbria  motor services? I certainly don't remember seeing it at the Haymarket when waiting for the 397/44 home on a Saturday afternoon, although that was almost 40 years ago!
The 46 was around in 1971, which is the earliest timetable I have.
(17 Jul 2022, 10:30 am)MurdnunoC wrote [ -> ]It started at Central Station, IIRC.

I think it passed over from Tyne and Wear PTE to United sometime in the early 80s, probably coinciding with the renumbering of the 397/398.

cheers that make sense.
I’m surprised that GNE hasn’t put the new timetables up as a pdf, as looking through the format there got is confusing the passengers, nexus site has the pdf’s but that’s for GNE services which enter the Tyne and Wear boundary only and not County Durham, DCC website doesn’t really show much these on the bus side of things, mostly just a link to the bus operators website.


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I'm guessing with these changes the X45 Streetdecks will be splitting between the X1 and X21 as it looks like 1 has been on the X21 on all day.