North East Buses

I am not sure they know who the operator is (for the DCC stuff anyway…)

(21 Jun 2022, 7:17 am)NL62WVW wrote [ -> ]There's a few interesting ones, Rob44 will be pleased about the 29

Pleased ish.... going into eldon Square is a good start ( should never have been stopped TBH). Just wonder if GNE are going to run the 28/28b/29 at the taxpayers expence?

(24 Jun 2022, 11:17 am)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]Pleased ish.... going into eldon Square is a good start ( should never have been stopped TBH). Just wonder if GNE are going to run the 28/28b/29 at the taxpayers expence?

Not sure why Nexus can work out punters want to be in Eldon Square, but the commercial team at GNE can't.

(24 Jun 2022, 4:41 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Not sure why Nexus can work out punters want to be in Eldon Square, but the commercial team at GNE can't

Are there still congestion problems with buses still queueing at the bottom. Maybe thats it.

(24 Jun 2022, 4:41 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Not sure why Nexus can work out punters want to be in Eldon Square, but the commercial team at GNE can't.

Presumably Nexus don't charge themselves to use the bus stations/factor this into the contract value, so not the same disincentive as for a commercial operator

(24 Jun 2022, 5:02 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Presumably Nexus don't charge themselves to use the bus stations/factor this into the contract value, so not the same disincentive as for a commercial operator

Maybe. But if GNE wanted that hub & spoke model to work, they would have ensured one of the spokes went in to the hub.

(24 Jun 2022, 5:07 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Maybe. But if GNE wanted that hub & spoke model to work, they would have ensured one of the spokes went in to the hub.

Weren't they pulled out because of lack of space rather than not wanting to be in there. There's plenty space now since they've cut everything.

(24 Jun 2022, 5:11 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Weren't they pulled out because of lack of space rather than not wanting to be in there. There's plenty space now since they've cut everything.

Maybe the revised timetable they brought in didn't have enough time to extend to Eldon Square without costing a extra bus

(24 Jun 2022, 5:11 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ] Weren't they pulled out because of lack of space rather than not wanting to be in there. There's plenty space now since they've cut everything.

Quite possibly, but it doesn't take a financial genius to work out that removing a (probably underperforming) service from a key location/destination isn't going to do much for its balance sheet.

They could have allocated a bus with all bells and whistles, but if people don't want to be on Market St but have an option that will take them closer to where they need to be (which is the case for the majority of punters living on either of the 28 variants), it's going to be the latter that wins every time.

(24 Jun 2022, 5:28 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Quite possibly, but it doesn't take a financial genius to work out that removing a (probably underperforming) service from a key location/destination isn't going to do much for its balance sheet.

They could have allocated a bus with all bells and whistles, but if people don't want to be on Market St but have an option that will take them closer to where they need to be (which is the case for the majority of punters living on either of the 28 variants), it's going to be the latter that wins every time.

I do think Nexus need to do more about Market Street West, the end bus stop that pretty much every GNE service uses has a completely inadequate shelter that isn't at the point where the buses stop. You always see just 2 people in the shelter with the other 20 odd passengers waiting in the open at the actual flag a few metres further up.

(24 Jun 2022, 6:10 pm)deanmachine wrote [ -> ]I do think Nexus need to do more about Market Street West, the end bus stop that pretty much every GNE service uses has a completely inadequate shelter that isn't at the point where the buses stop. You always see just 2 people in the shelter with the other 20 odd passengers waiting in the open at the actual flag a few metres further up.

Think there are 2 stops on the corner. The one where 27 etc departs has flag but no shelter, yet other stop which is underused does have shelter

(24 Jun 2022, 6:13 pm)JP6004 wrote [ -> ]Think there are 2 stops on the corner. The one where 27 etc departs has flag but no shelter, yet other stop which is underused does have shelter

The shelter is in the middle of the two stops, but it's only a little shelter, not suitable for one of the busiest none bus station stops in the city. The larger ones outside of Central Station would be much more suitable.

(24 Jun 2022, 6:28 pm)deanmachine wrote [ -> ]The shelter is in the middle of the two stops, but it's only a little shelter, not suitable for one of the busiest none bus station stops in the city. The larger ones outside of Central Station would be much more suitable.

Market Street really needs an overlook with services, there is some that could go to Eldon. i know it would clog but the 27 and 56 giving people at Eldon an easier connection to Sunderland, South Shields, Concord, Jarrow and Hebburn etc. You'd expect a place like Newcastle to have some sort of a fancy bus station for pretty much all services not 2 stations and many other bus stop stations

(24 Jun 2022, 7:33 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote [ -> ] You'd expect a place like Newcastle to have some sort of a fancy bus station for pretty much all services not 2 stations and many other bus stop stations

There’s more resilience in having multiple bus stations. If there’s an accident, incident, fire alarm, planned or emergency road closure, only a proportion of services are affected rather than every service if they were all funnelled into a single bus station.

Plus people want to be all over the city centre for various reasons, hence on street bus stops.

(24 Jun 2022, 7:42 pm)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]There’s more resilience in having multiple bus stations. If there’s an accident, incident, fire alarm, planned or emergency road closure, only a proportion of services are affected rather than every service if they were all funnelled into a single bus station.

Plus people want to be all over the city centre for various reasons, hence on street bus stops.

I know but when having some key city routes like the 56 you'd expect one to go to the main station and not one of the outskirts.

(24 Jun 2022, 7:46 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote [ -> ]I know but when having some key city routes like the 56 you'd expect one to go to the main station and not one of the outskirts.

What do you mean, outskirts? 
Central Newcastle is roughly from Central Motorway in the north to the river in the south, Newcastle Helix to the west and maybe as far as Manors to the east. 
Market Street is slap bang in the middle of the city centre, a 1-2 minute walk from Greys Monument.

(24 Jun 2022, 7:58 pm)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]What do you mean, outskirts? 
Central Newcastle is roughly from Central Motorway in the north to the river in the south, Newcastle Helix to the west and maybe as far as Manors to the east. 
Market Street is slap bang in the middle of the city centre, a 1-2 minute walk from Greys Monument.

Arguably, Market Street is more convenient as a 'destination', unless you're actually visiting Eldon Square. It's a surprising trek from Eldon Square bus station to anywhere you'd actually want to go!

I presume the 38 blonde bus will be repainted again into graphite for additional 39 routes
I also presume the road will be closed between goathland drive to ruswarp  for a few month due to the construction of the brand new roundabout and therefore the 39 39a and 39b will omit tunstall village green and divert along the new Doxford to ryhope link road behind danby close and goathland drive along eltham road by venerable bede school back on to normal route.

(24 Jun 2022, 10:16 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]Arguably, Market Street is more convenient as a 'destination', unless you're actually visiting Eldon Square. It's a surprising trek from Eldon Square bus station to anywhere you'd actually want to go!

Central Station is another issue, not served by anything to/from gateshead. 
Even from market street, dragging luggage down grainger street is not ideal.

(25 Jun 2022, 8:18 am)ASX_Terranova wrote [ -> ]Central Station is another issue, not served by anything to/from gateshead. 
Even from market street, dragging luggage down grainger street is not ideal.

The metro?

The "1"??

As for a bus station its a shame the centre for life is there..... you could have stuck a bus station there for buses coming over the redraught bridge and scots wood road