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Would Route 30 to Newcastle Via X34 from Boldon Work? So it goes South Shields - Cleadon - Boldon - Heworth - Gateshead - Newcastle,going by the timetables it would take just under an hour to do the full route so it would be around 10 Min quicker than GNE 27 (maybe have it skip out Gateshead so it runs Direct from Heworth to Newcastle City Centre,possibly nicking a few passengers from the Metro) ,Plus it would provide new links from Cleadon & up the Stagecoach frequency from Bolton to Newcastle to Every 15 Mins
I have a suggestion about the 685 service as I think Stagecoach are missing a trick.

I've thought for a long time that Stagecoach North East should compete and run a 685 spoiler service against the Arriva journeys.

Arriva will have no answer. They cannot compete from "the west" as they have no presence in Carlisle

Once Stagecoach win then make the route Stagecoach Gold from both Carlisle and Newcastle depots and you have a better, more coordinated service than before.

Maybe even incorporate Megabus fares for off peak services for end to end journeys like with Stagecoach Highlands service 10 between Inverness and Aberdeen.
I think soon it may be an idea for the X47 to serve the new Greenside estate and the X77 to run through the day instead of the X78
What if the frequency of local services was increased to every 15/20 minutes in South Shields on Sundays? whenever I'm in that nick of the woods I find that the levels of service are really quite low on that day. Plus by increasing frequency it might attract more passengers and persuade more people to get the bus than a taxi so as to avoid a 30 minute wait cause loadings don't seem to be all that bad typically
(08 Jul 2015, 7:33 am)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]Don't forget the X34 wouldn't be running if it wasn't for Stagecoach inheriting Catch-A-Bus service 534 all them years ago.

Catch-A-Bus 534? I'm not too familiar with that, how long ago did that happen?
(23 Aug 2015, 4:13 pm)Busman69 wrote [ -> ]Catch-A-Bus 534? I'm not too familiar with that, how long ago did that happen?

OH you talking mid 90s
could start the gold brand they have it all across the Uk for most services why not up here
X62 - Killingworth - West Moor - Quorum - Four Lane Ends - South Gosforth - Barras Bridge - St Marys Place - John Dobson Street - New Bridge Street - Blackett Street - Cowgate - West Denton - North Walbottle

X63 - Killingworth - West Moor - Quorum - BT Call Centre - South Gosforth - Barras Bridge - St Marys Place - John Dobson Street - New Bridge Street - Blackett Street - Fenham - West Denton - Chapel House
  • Operating every 7/8 minutes combined, providing improved faster cross city links
  • Current 62/63 would be curtailed to operate between Four Lane Ends and Newcastle City Centre only on current frequency.
You can tell you working in North Tyneside now Adam......nee suggestions that go via Washington, or is it a mistake Tongue
Service X81
Ashington - Pegswood Bypass - Morpeth - Cowgate - Eldon Gardens - Metro Centre
Every 30 minutes Mon-Sat daytimes, every 60 minutes Sunday and evenings.
  • Provides fast link between Ashington and Morpeth in as little as 13 minutes, compared to Arriva's 35/35a
  • Runs limited stop from Morpeth to Newcastle calling at Shields Road Roundabout, County Hall and Cowgate, in about 35-40 minutes
  • Provides fast link into Newcastle City Centre and Metro Centre
  • Competes with Arriva service X21/X22 with a faster link into Newcastle via Morpeth
10. Mile end road-south shields - horsley hill- marsdern- harton nook- south Tyneside hospital-primrose- fellgate
11 same route as 10 but back wards
12 south shields- chichester- Tyne dock- harton nook- harton estate-cleadon - east boldon- boldon
X20 renumbered x30 so no confusion with the go ahead x20
X30 south shields,Chichester,Tyne dock,primrose,Jarrow
34 south shields,harton nook,cleadon,east boldon-boldon,fellgate, heworth
X34 normal route just to stop at heworth.
The 10/11 will be half hourly PVR 4
The 12 will be half hourly with a PVR 3
X30 PVR 2 half hourly
34 hourly PVR 2
X34 same PVR
East boldon will have 3 buses per hour
34 replaces 558 cleadon to heworth
(03 Feb 2016, 8:36 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote [ -> ]10. Mile end road-south shields - horsley hill- marsdern- harton nook- south Tyneside hospital-primrose- fellgate
11 same route as 10 but back wards
12 south shields- chichester- Tyne dock- harton nook- harton estate-cleadon - east boldon- boldon
X20 renumbered x30 so no confusion with the go ahead x20
X30 south shields,Chichester,Tyne dock,primrose,Jarrow
34 south shields,harton nook,cleadon,east boldon-boldon,fellgate, heworth
X34 normal route just to stop at heworth.
The 10/11 will be half hourly PVR 4
The 12 will be half hourly with a PVR 3
X30 PVR 2 half hourly
34 hourly PVR 2
X34 same PVR
East boldon will have 3 buses per hour
34 replaces 558 cleadon to heworth


Most routes are pointless and miss out profitable areas and why turn back the X34 at Heworth? The place where the people of Harton want to go is Newcastle City Centre not Heworth.
East Bolden doesn't need 3 buses per hour it rarely fills 2 buses per hour.
Whats going to serve Watson Avenue and the Lonnen if the 12 changes to a tottaly different route?

A few people from Simonside and loads from Whitleas use the 10/11 to go to Schools in the Harton area, Whats going to fill that missing link when you chage the route?
14 dene estate-blue bell-wheatsheaf-sunderland-thorndale road-barnes-thorney close estate-grindon
4 doxford park-east herrington-barnes'-royal hospital-hylton road-millfield-sunderland-wheatsheaf - southwick -downhill.
8 south hylton-royal hospital-palion-southwick-carley hill-witherwack
16 hastings hill-chester road-Sunderland -southwick -ramsgate road - red house
17 new south bents -seaburn-roker-wheatsheaf-Sunderland - grangetown-ashbrooke-prospect-springwell-grindon

14 replaces the 23 fully the sunday extension to seaburn will remain.
4 remains the same doxford park to barnes then replaces the 18 to hylton road to then replace the 8 into Sunderland then to downhill the town end farm extension will be withdrawn
8 normal route to hylton road then replaces route 18 to southwick then replaces the 16 to witherwack creating some of the old 6.
16 rerouted round ransgate road again
New 17 old 18 route south bents to prospect then the 19 route to grindon
People between southwick and seaburn could use the 99 or a change of bus
New Service 6

Town End Farm – Hylton Castle – Castletown – Hylton Riverside – Southwick – Pallion – Ford – Springwell – Durham Road – Doxford International

Operating via Baxter Road, Bexhill Road, Blackwood Road, Washington Road, Craigavon Road, Grange Road, Ringway, Ferryboat Lane, Wessington Way, Colima Avenue, Timber Beach Road, Hylton Park Road, Alexandra Avenue, Camden Street, Queen Alexandra Bridge, Pallion New Road, Pallion Subway, Merle Terrace, St Luke’s Road, Front Road, Holborn Road, Springwell Road, Durham Road, Parkside, City Way, Monarch Way, Admiral Way, Emperor Way

Replacing Service 4 in Town End Farm which will revert to terminate at Downhill.
Entering GNE territory, introducing a Stagecoach service to Castletown, Hylton Riverside, Ford, East Herrington/Parkside; and opening up new direct links from North Sunderland estates to Doxford International.

Every 20 mins, PVR=5


New Service 21

Plains Farm – Thorney Close – Grindon – The Broadway – Killingworth Drive – Cleveland Road – Barnes Park Road – Ormonde Street – Chester Road – City Centre – Docks

Operating via Pancras Road, Perth Road, Polmuir Road, Primate Road, Durham Road, Thorney Close Road, Thorndale Road, Tilbury Road, Tay Road, Gleneagles Road, Greenwood Road, Chester Road, The Broadway, then existing service 5A route with all buses operating clockwise around Docks.

Replacing Services 5&5A which will be withdrawn, alternative facilities to Gilley Law continue to be provided by Service 13 and alternative facilities to Springwell Road are provided by Services 16, 18 & 19.
Replacing Service 3 in Plains Farm, which will operate direct via Durham Road, reducing the PVR by 1 vehicle.

Every 30 mins, PVR=3 (utilising existing Service 5 vehicle allocation)


Overall increase in PVR of 4 vehicles for new Services 6 & 21, opening up a lot of new links and serving new communities, likely increasing Megarider sales.
Service 4 doxford park-east herrington-sunderland - southwick - downhill-boldon or town end farm
Service 4 to run every 10 mins with a extension to boldon at every 30 mins
To interwork a trip on 30 then back to doxford park
PVR 12 Sunderland pvr2 south shields-
this service could work but only in the summer bar Airshow weekend:

Open top service from Seaburn along the coast this service has happened in the past under the old Busways company
10 connect the dots E300s for service 6/7/8 to allow for the ALX300s 22021-22030 to replace 22010, 22014, 22015, 22462, 22673-22675 and 20550-20552. 
21 E400MMCs for replacing 19141-19163. 14669-14674 would be replaced on CitySightseeing services at Slatyford by 19141-19146. 19147 and 19148 would replace 16834 and 16836 at Stockton along with 17025-17032 being replaced by 19149-19156. 22408-22412 would be replaced on the X47 for higher capacity by 19157-19161. These would replace 20121, 20553 and 20554 at Driver Training.
(15 Apr 2016, 3:51 pm)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]10 connect the dots E300s for service 6/7/8 to allow for the ALX300s 22021-22030 to replace 22010, 22014, 22015, 22462, 22673-22675 and 20550-20552. 
21 E400MMCs for replacing 19141-19163. 14669-14674 would be replaced on CitySightseeing services at Slatyford by 19141-19146. 19147 and 19148 would replace 16834 and 16836 at Stockton along with 17025-17032 being replaced by 19149-19156. 22408-22412 would be replaced on the X47 for higher capacity by 19157-19161. These would replace 20121, 20553 and 20554 at Driver Training.

The tridents don't need replacing as the schools are withdrawn
These threads are also for service suggestions not new vehicle or vehicle relocation suggestions.
(15 Apr 2016, 4:24 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]These threads are also for service suggestions not new vehicle or vehicle relocation suggestions.

Technically in my post were service suggestions