(23 May 2020, 9:45 pm)N1cholas wrote [ -> ]Yes that is correct, All upcoming Service changes will be published on the go north east website soon
Anymore information on these changes?
Are they doing major changes to the Sunderland network like they did not long ago?, like when they merged the 9 and 61 together, 20 and 35 swapped going to shields?
If you don't mind, can i ask where you got the information please?
(23 May 2020, 9:50 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Anymore information on these changes?
If you don't mind, can i ask where you got the information please?
you will find out the rest of the changes sometime next week, wont be monday though as thats a bank holiday, only confirmed them as they have already been posted on social media, got the info from a secure closed facebook group only certain people can get access to.......keep guessing though lets see what you think could happen
(23 May 2020, 9:58 pm)N1cholas wrote [ -> ]you will find out the rest of the changes sometime next week, wont be monday though as thats a bank holiday, only confirmed them as they have already been posted on social media, got the info from a secure closed facebook group only certain people can get access to.......keep guessing though lets see what you think could happen
No probs thanks.
Wonder if they'll go ahead with moving the 78 to Consett.
Maybe an admin wants to move these posts to the "Rumoured May changes" thread
(23 May 2020, 10:15 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]No probs thanks.
Wonder if they'll go ahead with moving the 78 to Consett.
Maybe an admin wants to move these posts to the "Rumoured May changes" thread
Still planned but not from 01/06.
(23 May 2020, 9:48 am)Dan wrote [ -> ]They aren’t running - back to normal in that there are some early morning journeys operated by Go North East and then evening/Sunday by Gateshead Central Taxis.
This reflects the impending ramp up of service levels.
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Thanks Dan, I'd been wondering about the 135/136 daytime as the timetable showing them is still available under the "Nexus contract changes from 17th May" link on the website. I assume that they ceased from 17th May.
Are the early journeys Mon-Sat actually running? (nothing on GoNE or Nexus websites).
(23 May 2020, 9:58 pm)N1cholas wrote [ -> ]you will find out the rest of the changes sometime next week, wont be monday though as thats a bank holiday, only confirmed them as they have already been posted on social media, got the info from a secure closed facebook group only certain people can get access to.......keep guessing though lets see what you think could happen
If the 38 is going to the docks, then i would imagine either the 33 or 33A would be dropped from that section? - or both.
Wonder if the 39 will be dropped to every 30 minutes (15 combined) 39 - every 30 minutes/39A every 30 minutes
Other than that, i can't think if how they could change the Sunderland network anymore? - unless they rip the services apart again.. hopefully that doesn't happen.
9 being split again - 61 returning
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(24 May 2020, 6:07 pm)6049 wrote [ -> ]9 being split again - 61 returning
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Interesting move, but not surprised.
Wonder if the new 61 would be diverted via part of the 38 route? - would imagine that, the 61 would be allocated Citaro's from the 9, with both routes stopping every 20 minutes.
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If the 9 and 61 is getting split, for some reason, i'm expecting at least one other route getting spilt, something like the 20, so it would be: Durham to Sunderland then renumbered for the Sunderland to South Shields section.
(24 May 2020, 6:13 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Interesting move, but not surprised.
Wonder if the new 61 would be diverted via part of the 38 route? - would imagine that, the 61 would be allocated Citaro's from the 9, with both routes stopping every 20 minutes.
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If the 9 and 61 is getting split, for some reason, i'm expecting at least one other route getting spilt, something like the 20, so it would be: Durham to Sunderland then renumbered for the Sunderland to South Shields section.
I'm clueless about the Nexus rota at Deptford so can't comment. Only know about the 9 & 61, 20 is unchanged as far as I'm aware apart from frequency.
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(24 May 2020, 6:13 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Interesting move, but not surprised.
Wonder if the new 61 would be diverted via part of the 38 route? - would imagine that, the 61 would be allocated Citaro's from the 9, with both routes stopping every 20 minutes.
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If the 9 and 61 is getting split, for some reason, i'm expecting at least one other route getting spilt, something like the 20, so it would be: Durham to Sunderland then renumbered for the Sunderland to South Shields section.
Should terminate the 20 at Sunderland, and extend the 60 to Shields
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(24 May 2020, 6:43 pm)6049 wrote [ -> ]I'm clueless about the Nexus rota at Deptford so can't comment. Only know about the 9 & 61, 20 is unchanged as far as I'm aware apart from frequency.
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Can't see it going back up to every 10 minutes - so expecting it to drop to every 15 minutes now - PVR would be 13?
(24 May 2020, 7:02 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Can't see it going back up to every 10 minutes - so expecting it to drop to every 15 minutes now - PVR would be 13?
Might make sense if X20 was starting to prove more popular
I have a suggestion for the 2/2A/38 & 39
2/2A - Sunderland City Centre - Ashbrooke - Leechmere - Hollycarrside - Esdale Estate - Tunstall Bank Estate - Silksworth - Doxford International - Doxford Park Morrisons - Ryhope - Grangetown - Sunderland City Centre - Sunderland University - Royal Hospital - Chester Road - Pennywell - Prestbury Road - Hastings Hill - Penshaw - Shiney Row - Barnwell (2A) - Fatfield - Biddick (2A) - Harraton (2) - Lambton (2) - Washington Galleries
Merging of services 2/2A/38 & 39 - Operating Monday to Saturday up to Every 10 Minutes and Every 20 Minutes on Sunday
Service would operate a clockwise/anti clockwise loop between Sunderland City Centre and Doxford International and again as they do currently between Fatfield and Washington Galleries whilst also opening new links around Pennywell to Washington and areas currently served by the 38 to Doxford International.
Disconnect the X6/X7 from the X20, and run the X6 back to Hartlepool and X7 to Oakerside, or run the X7 to Hartlepool via castle Eden, Hesleden and BlackHall rocks
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(24 May 2020, 8:27 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]I have a suggestion for the 2/2A/38 & 39
2/2A - Sunderland City Centre - Ashbrooke - Leechmere - Hollycarrside - Esdale Estate - Tunstall Bank Estate - Silksworth - Doxford International - Doxford Park Morrisons - Ryhope - Grangetown - Sunderland City Centre - Sunderland University - Royal Hospital - Chester Road - Pennywell - Prestbury Road - Hastings Hill - Penshaw - Shiney Row - Barnwell (2A) - Fatfield - Biddick (2A) - Harraton (2) - Lambton (2) - Washington Galleries
Merging of services 2/2A/38 & 39 - Operating Monday to Saturday up to Every 10 Minutes and Every 20 Minutes on Sunday
Service would operate a clockwise/anti clockwise loop between Sunderland City Centre and Doxford International and again as they do currently between Fatfield and Washington Galleries whilst also opening new links around Pennywell to Washington and areas currently served by the 38 to Doxford International.
That's 1 long route
- although a good idea for the route - i think it would work... any idea of the PVR? - there's currently 16 "Black Cat" branded Streetlites.
(24 May 2020, 8:35 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]That's 1 long route - although a good idea for the route - i think it would work... any idea of the PVR? - there's currently 16 "Black Cat" branded Streetlites.
It is but I post covid 19 it would be more beneficial for GNE to merge services together that overlap as at the minute a few of these services don't make that much money which is they let they evening journeys go to GCT as they were not sustainable to operate commercially, this would counteract that and more than likely reduce operating costs also.
This is just one example, there are countless amounts of examples where this could work across other services on the GNE network.
(24 May 2020, 10:09 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]It is but I post covid 19 it would be more beneficial for GNE to merge services together that overlap as at the minute a few of these services don't make that much money which is they let they evening journeys go to GCT as they were not sustainable to operate commercially, this would counteract that and more than likely reduce operating costs also.
This is just one example, there are countless amounts of examples where this could work across other services on the GNE network.
I agree, its always worth a shot, even if on a night, least they would get the 39 back (along in a different form)
I've forgot what the normal timetables were, its been that long ago since a normal service....
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Only thing i would change is the Chester Road - Pennywell - Prestbury Road - Hastings Hill section
Maybe have 2 go its current route and the 2A via Pennywell?, least then it keeps the Broadway and Grindon Mill section with a bus to Washington.
(24 May 2020, 8:27 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]I have a suggestion for the 2/2A/38 & 39
2/2A - Sunderland City Centre - Ashbrooke - Leechmere - Hollycarrside - Esdale Estate - Tunstall Bank Estate - Silksworth - Doxford International - Doxford Park Morrisons - Ryhope - Grangetown - Sunderland City Centre - Sunderland University - Royal Hospital - Chester Road - Pennywell - Prestbury Road - Hastings Hill - Penshaw - Shiney Row - Barnwell (2A) - Fatfield - Biddick (2A) - Harraton (2) - Lambton (2) - Washington Galleries
Merging of services 2/2A/38 & 39 - Operating Monday to Saturday up to Every 10 Minutes and Every 20 Minutes on Sunday
Service would operate a clockwise/anti clockwise loop between Sunderland City Centre and Doxford International and again as they do currently between Fatfield and Washington Galleries whilst also opening new links around Pennywell to Washington and areas currently served by the 38 to Doxford International.
Post Covid 19, when traffic builds up, there might be some problems with reliability with such a long route, so might need more stand time at the interchange, but does seem like a reasonable suggestion to keep operating commercially especially during evenings to prevent GCT from grabbing them!
(24 May 2020, 11:12 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]I agree, its always worth a shot, even if on a night, least they would get the 39 back (along in a different form)
I've forgot what the normal timetables were, its been that long ago since a normal service....
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Only thing i would change is the Chester Road - Pennywell - Prestbury Road - Hastings Hill section
Maybe have 2 go its current route and the 2A via Pennywell?, least then it keeps the Broadway and Grindon Mill section with a bus to Washington.
Yeah I forgot to note that bit of having them split on Pennywell/Chester Road.
In regards to PVR I think for all four services is 20, i think 16 buses would cover it with 2 spares as there is now on the 2/2A/39.
(24 May 2020, 8:27 pm)Malarkey wrote [ -> ]I have a suggestion for the 2/2A/38 & 39
2/2A - Sunderland City Centre - Ashbrooke - Leechmere - Hollycarrside - Esdale Estate - Tunstall Bank Estate - Silksworth - Doxford International - Doxford Park Morrisons - Ryhope - Grangetown - Sunderland City Centre - Sunderland University - Royal Hospital - Chester Road - Pennywell - Prestbury Road - Hastings Hill - Penshaw - Shiney Row - Barnwell (2A) - Fatfield - Biddick (2A) - Harraton (2) - Lambton (2) - Washington Galleries
Merging of services 2/2A/38 & 39 - Operating Monday to Saturday up to Every 10 Minutes and Every 20 Minutes on Sunday
This is a bad idea imo. The reason the 39 struggles is it barely has a purpose. Pennywell -> Sunderland is Stagecoach territory with the 20, Doxford Park to Sunderland is also Stagecoach territory with the 4 and 12. Then the rest of the route is mostly duplicated by the 2 which runs all night so the majority of the route has a service anyway.
Unless you suddenly have some reason for a massive demand between Grangetown / Ryhope to Doxford Park and Washington to Chester Road there's no need for it being every 10 minutes whereas the sections which are popular Silksworth -> Sunderland and Chester Road your decreasing to every 10 minutes from every 7.5 minutes. Not to mention your also making the route slower between Sunderland and Penshaw and onwards.
Personally I'd just renumber the 39 to the number 1 and market is as one bus route every 7.5 minutes with different endings. The core of the 39 is the same as the 2 anyway.