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(16 Jan 2023, 8:50 am)tvd wrote [ -> ]I wonder where the most Westerly point served by Arriva in the region will be now, I'm guessing maybe Stanhope?

Bizarrely, Berwick and Stanhope or more or less the same latitude.
I think Berwick just pinches it though.
Yeah, Berwick station lines up with Stanhope station, so not much in it.
(16 Jan 2023, 8:50 am)tvd wrote [ -> ]I wonder where the most Westerly point served by Arriva in the region will be now, I'm guessing maybe Stanhope?
On Sundays during the summer season, it would be Kirkby Lonsdale on the DalesBus 831 run by Darlington depot (assuming it returns in the same form as the last two years)
Does the 51/52/55 all interwork now, im lost with its interworking pattern now
(16 Jan 2023, 8:56 am)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Bizarrely, Berwick and Stanhope or more or less the same latitude.
I think Berwick just pinches it though.
Don't you mean longitude?
(06 Feb 2023, 7:20 pm)V514DFT wrote [ -> ]Does the 51/52/55 all interwork now, im lost with its interworking pattern now
51/52/53/54 all interwork. Its odd the way they work but I see it mostly as

51 Whitley Bay to Newcastle, 52 to Cramlington, 53 to Palmersvill, 53 to Cramlington, 52 to Newcastle then possibly a 54 or 51 depending on time

54 to Newcastle, 52 to Cramlington, 53 to North Shields & return, 52 to Newcastle then 51 or 54

Don't think the 55 interwork with anything as the same bus that's seen during the day is usually the one that does the last Four Lane Ends run
On Vosa today, didn’t know service 245 and 153 still ran in Peterlee


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(14 Feb 2023, 1:55 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]On Vosa today, didn’t know service 245 and 153 still ran in Peterlee


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Appears to be cancelling a load of registrations for long since withdrawn services from Arriva, 63 in Durham being another.

Looking to the future now and it appears some changes are on the way around the Whitby area from April 2nd:

A new service 96 has been registered running between Whitby and Lealholmside whilst the 95 is down as running between Whitby, Sainsbury's and Sleights.

Also registered is the P1/P2 for the summer with variations for the X4 & X93/X94 which will likely be the introduction of the summer timetable for the X93/X94.[attachment=10386][attachment=10387]
(14 Feb 2023, 1:55 pm)See cbma06 wrote [ -> ]On Vosa today, didn’t know service 245 and 153 still ran in Peterlee


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The BODS (Bus Open Data Service) now cross checks against the DVSA registration database and flags up any missing/out of date registrations.
(14 Feb 2023, 2:51 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Appears to be cancelling a load of registrations for long since withdrawn services from Arriva, 63 in Durham being another.

Looking to the future now and it appears some changes are on the way around the Whitby area from April 2nd:

A new service 96 has been registered running between Whitby and Lealholmside whilst the 95 is down as running between Whitby, Sainsbury's and Sleights.

Also registered is the P1/P2 for the summer with variations for the X4 & X93/X94 which will likely be the introduction of the summer timetable for the X93/X94.


The 96 was always in the tender spec as a separate service but for the last few years has been operated as an extension of the 95. I wonder what has changed… the tender is due to run for another year before all/most of North Yorkshire’s contracts come up for retender next April.
I would assume the X4 will be linked to the 95 changes as some X4 buses also do 95s.


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(17 Feb 2023, 7:08 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]The 96 was always in the tender spec as a separate service but for the last few years has been operated as an extension of the 95. I wonder what has changed… the tender is due to run for another year before all/most of North Yorkshire’s contracts come up for retender next April.
I would assume the X4 will be linked to the 95 changes as some X4 buses also do 95s.


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Not quite - the NYCC tenders in the Scarborough area are now not due for another four years. This year was the review year.

Arriva only submitted a conforming option for the 96 this time around, as the 95 is going hourly (and would no longer work).

The X4 is the Sunday frequency increase, which has been missing since 2019.
(06 Feb 2023, 7:45 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]51/52/53/54 all interwork. Its odd the way they work but I see it mostly as

51 Whitley Bay to Newcastle, 52 to Cramlington, 53 to Palmersvill, 53 to Cramlington, 52 to Newcastle then possibly a 54 or 51 depending on time

54 to Newcastle, 52 to Cramlington, 53 to North Shields & return, 52 to Newcastle then 51 or 54

Don't think the 55 interwork with anything as the same bus that's seen during the day is usually the one that does the last Four Lane Ends run
51/52/53/54 seem to inter work on M-F, 51 seems to interwork with North Road routes on Saturday. 

Anyone doubting usefulness of 51, currently at Station Road, almost full downstairs and about 15 upstairs!
X14 has now appeared as having a change from the 26th March. With a variation & route change
(17 Feb 2023, 7:08 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]The 96 was always in the tender spec as a separate service but for the last few years has been operated as an extension of the 95. I wonder what has changed… the tender is due to run for another year before all/most of North Yorkshire’s contracts come up for retender next April.
I would assume the X4 will be linked to the 95 changes as some X4 buses also do 95s.


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It's only the 8.34 x4 that works off the early 95 service 
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(20 Feb 2023, 12:46 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]X14 has now appeared as having a change from the 26th March. With a variation & route change

Route change?
(21 Feb 2023, 7:17 pm)NEbushopper wrote [ -> ]Route change?
Just says Route & timetable change
(21 Feb 2023, 9:25 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]Just says Route & timetable change

A couple of the journeys are going to operate via Cragside
(14 Feb 2023, 2:51 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Appears to be cancelling a load of registrations for long since withdrawn services from Arriva, 63 in Durham being another.

Looking to the future now and it appears some changes are on the way around the Whitby area from April 2nd:

A new service 96 has been registered running between Whitby and Lealholmside whilst the 95 is down as running between Whitby, Sainsbury's and Sleights.

Also registered is the P1/P2 for the summer with variations for the X4 & X93/X94 which will likely be the introduction of the summer timetable for the X93/X94.
What is the website? Where you can see those time tables
(17 Feb 2023, 7:08 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]The 96 was always in the tender spec as a separate service but for the last few years has been operated as an extension of the 95. I wonder what has changed… the tender is due to run for another year before all/most of North Yorkshire’s contracts come up for retender next April.

According to Google Maps, the 96 will take the following route leaving Whitby:
Victoria Square > Bagdale > Chubb Hill Road > Spring Vale > Stakesby Road > Castle Road > B1460 > Guisborough Road (A171) > A169 then as current 95 route to Lealholmside but omitting Ingham Close and Iburndale Lane.
Confirmed:

PB0002032/450
Variation ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD 308 (308, 306) Blyth Newcastle