(09 Aug 2015, 11:56 am)GX03 SVC wrote [ -> ]Can't the X17 be the X18 - then the X17 change numbers at Alnwick to become X18. It'll work as long as it's explained to passengers if you need to go to **** get off at Alnwick. Also the X18 (518) has always been "the scenic one" so I don't think passengers would want to get on at Newcastle just to find out it goes through Shilbottle. 
Aye not a bad idea
I think faster journey times for places like Bamburgh, Seahouses and Craster would be much better and possibly attract more passengers.
(09 Aug 2015, 11:35 am)Tom wrote [ -> ]Just a thought, instead of having the X18 operate via the coast (Alnmouth Station, Alnmouth, Warkworth etc.), why doesn't this happen, possibly next summer:
20/X20 - Operates as route from 6th September.
X15 - Omits Felton and Shilbottle to provide faster links from Newcastle to Alnwick and Berwick.
X16 - As route from 6th September.
X17 - Operates from Newcastle to Alnwick, via current X18 route.
X18 - Operate between Morpeth and Alnwick via Felton and Shilbottle to replace X15, then as current route onwards to Berwick.
I had thought something similar re the x18 and 20, but would send the X18 off the A1 at Felton and continue through to Walkworth.
(09 Aug 2015, 4:48 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]I had thought something similar re the x18 and 20, but would send the X18 off the A1 at Felton and continue through to Walkworth.
That's not a bad idea either, would work well I think.
(08 Aug 2015, 10:21 am)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]New 21/21A/X21 leaflet is now available in Middlesbrough Bus Station.
The X22 will connect with the 21 in Peterlee Bus Station. The X22 route from Sunderland will run via Ryhope Green, Dawdon, then head via Seaham Interchange (that's what the timetable says!) then along the A182 then along the A19 coming off at the same slip road as the X10 and head along Burnhope Way (past East Durham College) then into Peterlee Bus Station then onto the 21.
The X22 will only run on school days, out of term time it will operate as the X21.
List of stops on the new X22 Sunderland - Peterlee.
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PB0002717/256 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Hartlepool given service number 57/57A effective from 04-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002032/288 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Regent Centre Metro -Strand 'C' and Gosforth Park given service number Childrens Cancer Run effective from 11-Oct-2015.
PB0002717/30 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Bishop Auckland given service number 56/56A effective from 04-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/239 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Durham given service number X12 effective from 04-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002032/476 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Battle Hill and Regent Centre given service number 553 effective from 17-Aug-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0002032/513 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: St James
Finish Point: North Shields
Via:
Service Number: 900
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 23-AUG-2015
Other Details: Metro replacement service
PB0002717/14 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Darlington and Colburn given service number 26A/X26/X27 effective from 04-Oct-2015. To amend Route.
PB0002717/54 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Darlington and Barnard Castle given service number X75/X76 effective from 04-Oct-2015. To amend Route.
PB0002717/291 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hurworth and Trees Park Village given service number 12/12A/12a effective from 04-Oct-2015. To amend Route.
PB0002717/14 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Darlington and Colburn given service number 26A/X26/X27 effective from 04-Oct-2015. To amend Route.
PB0002717/54 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Darlington and Barnard Castle given service number X75/X76 effective from 04-Oct-2015. To amend Route.
PB0002717/291 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hurworth and Trees Park Village given service number 12/12A/12a effective from 04-Oct-2015. To amend Route.
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Wonder if these relate to stand changes, given all those services currently use Stand M.
(24 Aug 2015, 9:36 pm)MrPottski wrote [ -> ]Wonder if these relate to stand changes, given all those services currently use Stand M.
Could do with making some more changes to stands in Darlington, seems to be far too many buses trying to use stand M at the same time especially if some buses arrive/depart late.
Could be something relating to the Feethams development, road closures maybe?
PHP
PB0002717/54 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Barnard Castle given service number X76/X75 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/200 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Darlington given service number 66/X66/X67 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/201 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Red Hall and Branksome given service number 2 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.
PB0002717/273 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and West Park given service number 19 effective from 25-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/301 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stockton and Hartburn given service number 6 effective from 25-Oct-2015.
PB0002717/306 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between New Marske and Stokesley given service number 81/81a effective from 27-Aug-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
Let the frothing commence...
X67... I'm intrigued. And the 19... hmm
Yes there's an upcoming improvement to our Darlington to Middlesbrough express...
X66 will continue to run every half hour via the current route
X67 will also run every half hour from Darlington via College, Hartburn, Stockton to Middlesbrough
They'll combine to offer a service every 15 minutes between Darlington, Stockton and Middlesbrough (and vice versa). 4 buses an hour instead of 3 now!
(26 Aug 2015, 6:36 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]Yes there's an upcoming improvement to our Darlington to Middlesbrough express...
X66 will continue to run every half hour via the current route
X67 will also run every half hour from Darlington via College, Hartburn, Stockton to Middlesbrough
They'll combine to offer a service every 15 minutes between Darlington, Stockton and Middlesbrough (and vice versa). 4 buses an hour instead of 3 now!
Hope it's a worthwhile improvement, an increased frequency will hopefully attract passengers.
(26 Aug 2015, 6:36 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]Yes there's an upcoming improvement to our Darlington to Middlesbrough express...
X66 will continue to run every half hour via the current route
X67 will also run every half hour from Darlington via College, Hartburn, Stockton to Middlesbrough
They'll combine to offer a service every 15 minutes between Darlington, Stockton and Middlesbrough (and vice versa). 4 buses an hour instead of 3 now!
Pretty much what I predicted except it runs via Hartburn when I said Longnewton after the speculation saying that it would run via Longnewton on here.
These changes are annoying for me as I will now only have two buses an hour to/from Middlesbrough to/from Harrowgate Hill and North Road, just hope they will go up/down North Road at around the same times as the 5/5A does (not that it's ever on-time anyway!) otherwise the amount of trips I make to Stockton and Boro may drastically decrease unless I start using the 7.
Class! What extra vehicle will be used for the X66/X67? I'm guessing all the Omni's will be rebranded in Darlo? Including the X66/X26/X27 mapped ones? Also What is happening to service 19?
(26 Aug 2015, 6:43 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Pretty much what I predicted except it runs via Hartburn when I said Longnewton after the speculation saying that it would run via Longnewton on here.
These changes are annoying for me as I will now only have two buses an hour to/from Middlesbrough to/from Harrowgate Hill and North Road, just hope they will go up/down North Road at around the same times as the 5/5A does (not that it's ever on-time anyway!) otherwise the amount of trips I make to Stockton and Boro may drastically decrease unless I start using the 7.
Sadly I was misinformed about Longnewton. I'm sure when I originally hinted it (prior to it being removed) I did put Hartburn as well.
(26 Aug 2015, 6:45 pm)JoshP wrote [ -> ]Class! What extra vehicle will be used for the X66/X67? I'm guessing all the Omni's will be rebranded in Darlo? Including the X66/X26/X27 mapped ones? Also What is happening to service 19?
I'm lead to understand the X66/X67 will be shared between Darlington and Stockton (the X67 replacing Stockton's 6) with some Pulsars being MAX'd for Stockton's turns.
(26 Aug 2015, 6:45 pm)JoshP wrote [ -> ]Class! What extra vehicle will be used for the X66/X67? I'm guessing all the Omni's will be rebranded in Darlo? Including the X66/X26/X27 mapped ones? Also What is happening to service 19?
Two of the 1404/5/7 due for Stockton should be refurbished I understand for our share of it. 1415 expected to stay, being a generic spare for both MAX routes (X12, X66)
PVR will be 7, an increase of one on the existing services covering the same corridor. More proof of investment going into our operations over the next few months, with an extra bus on the 46 (Durham), X66 and who knows what else in the future?
(26 Aug 2015, 6:43 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Pretty much what I predicted except it runs via Hartburn when I said Longnewton after the speculation saying that it would run via Longnewton on here.
These changes are annoying for me as I will now only have two buses an hour to/from Middlesbrough to/from Harrowgate Hill and North Road, just hope they will go up/down North Road at around the same times as the 5/5A does (not that it's ever on-time anyway!) otherwise the amount of trips I make to Stockton and Boro may drastically decrease unless I start using the 7.
Thanks to another source, the X67 will be operating out of Darlington via the old OK1 route then via Hartburn. Sunday X66s will also be diverted via Hartburn and both the X66/X67 will operate via Thornaby Station.
(26 Aug 2015, 6:43 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Pretty much what I predicted except it runs via Hartburn when I said Longnewton after the speculation saying that it would run via Longnewton on here.
These changes are annoying for me as I will now only have two buses an hour to/from Middlesbrough to/from Harrowgate Hill and North Road, just hope they will go up/down North Road at around the same times as the 5/5A does (not that it's ever on-time anyway!) otherwise the amount of trips I make to Stockton and Boro may drastically decrease unless I start using the 7.
X66 & X67 will also interwork in Darlington allowing through journeys on most departures.
(26 Aug 2015, 8:25 pm)Mark wrote [ -> ]X66 & X67 will also interwork in Darlington allowing through journeys on most departures.
That's good if you get on a X67 in Middlesbrough or Stockton and want to get off down North Road, still totally useless for me getting to/from Newton Aycliffe though.
PB0002717/238 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Durham and Newcastle given service number X12 effective from 15-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
(26 Aug 2015, 8:16 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Thanks to another source, the X67 will be operating out of Darlington via the old OK1 route then via Hartburn. Sunday X66s will also be diverted via Hartburn and both the X66/X67 will operate via Thornaby Station.
What do they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?!
I would have put the X66 via Longnewton and saved the time by making it setting down only into Darlington on North Road, picking up only outbound.
PB0002717/390 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Whitby Park & Ride and Whitby Park & Ride given service number P1/P2 effective from 02-Nov-2015
Just the one today - new Saturday shopping shuttle service
PB0002717/407 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stockton High Street
Finish Point: Teesside Park
Via:
Service Number: S1
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 31-OCT-2015
Other Details: Up to every 30 minutes, Saturdays only.
(04 Sep 2015, 1:27 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]Just the one today - new Saturday shopping shuttle service
PB0002717/407 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stockton High Street
Finish Point: Teesside Park
Via:
Service Number: S1
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 31-OCT-2015
Other Details: Up to every 30 minutes, Saturdays only.
Intresting, always thought someone should have started a bus to Teesside Park after the demise of Leven Valley even just on Saturday's. Pity there is not many shops I like at Teesside Park.
(04 Sep 2015, 1:32 pm)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]Intresting, always thought someone should have started a bus to Teesside Park after the demise of Leven Valley even just on Saturday's. Pity there is not many shops I like at Teesside Park.
I think we're just running it as a trial using one of the buses that would otherwise be sat idle in the yard (PVR of 9/27/27A is -3 on a Saturday compared to weekdays). If its successful it may be extended I guess, otherwise just quietly dropped.
Teesside Park used to subsidise the Alrite/A1 Coaches/Compass Royston/Leven Valley services but I think this is being done on an entirely commercial basis. Hopefully the run upto Christmas will prove to be busy, though it doesn't really have any time to settle in being started at the end of October.