North East Buses

heworth is needed as a transport hub as oppose to Pelaw imo

it means buses can connect much easier than from pelaw

(05 Jun 2025, 9:55 pm)DaveFromUpNorth wrote [ -> ]heworth is needed as a transport hub as oppose to Pelaw imo

it means buses can connect much easier than from pelaw

Nobody is suggesting that Pelaw will become a transport hub. It's just where the junctions are.

Heworth will still remain the nearest transport hub.

(05 Jun 2025, 9:55 pm)DaveFromUpNorth wrote [ -> ]heworth is needed as a transport hub as oppose to Pelaw imo

it means buses can connect much easier than from pelaw

Not sure about what this discussion is about . All I ll say is that Metro trains from Sunderland via South Hylton and Washington will leave the Leamside line and enter Pelaw, then en route to Newcastle and beyond. Heworth will remain as a bud interchange.

(05 Jun 2025, 10:14 pm)Economic505 wrote [ -> ]Not sure about what this discussion is about . All I ll say is that Metro trains from Sunderland via South Hylton and Washington will leave the Leamside line and enter Pelaw, then en route to Newcastle and beyond. Heworth will remain as a bud interchange.

This bit, the plan is 3 TPH to Monkseaton and 3 TPH to Heworth in documents that have been released about the line in the past. Lost the document though and after the changes with the NECA sites it's hard to find older stuff now.

Edit: It's this one which is where the study is in: https://www.northeast-ca.gov.uk/download...5nov22.pdf (Page 182)

(05 Jun 2025, 10:20 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]This bit, the plan is 3 TPH to Monkseaton and 3 TPH to Heworth in documents that have been released about the line in the past. Lost the document though and after the changes with the NECA sites it's hard to find older stuff now.

Edit: It's this one which is where the study is in: https://www.northeast-ca.gov.uk/download...5nov22.pdf (Page 182)

I think you may be reading it too literally. To me, they're suggesting that one train would start from Monkseaton, run round the loop via Washington, Sunderland and all the way back round on to the Airport. The train starting at the Airport would do the opposite, round the loop via Sunderland, Washington and then on to Monkseaton. It's marked in red because that bit doesn't exist; it presently goes back and forth between South Hylton and the Airport.

Even if you looked at it rationally, it'd make no sense to have a train that has travelled through Washington to terminate at South Hylton, then the trains from Sunderland to also terminate at South Hylton. Why would it be called the Washington Metro Loop in all official papers, if it's not a loop? It'd be a pointless level crossing (which NR hate and try to avoid), if it was never going to be used. You'd just build another platform at the other side of the road.

Plus, if the intention was to terminate everything at South Hylton, they'd use the existing curve alignment and terminate at Penshaw instead. It'd be a huge saving, as they they wouldn't need to build a new curve alignment and a couple of mile of track with no station - it may even become the longest section without a station on the system?

Maybe 2 different line colours to avoid the confusion, but we'll only know closer to completion
So
Yellow- St James to South Shields
Green- Airport to South Hylton
Red- Monkseaton to Airport via Washington (clockwise)
Blue- Airport to Monkseaton via Washington (anti-clockwise)

(06 Jun 2025, 5:13 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]I think you may be reading it too literally. To me, they're suggesting that one train would start from Monkseaton, run round the loop via Washington, Sunderland and all the way back round on to the Airport. The train starting at the Airport would do the opposite, round the loop via Sunderland, Washington and then on to Monkseaton. It's marked in red because that bit doesn't exist; it presently goes back and forth between South Hylton and the Airport.

Even if you looked at it rationally, it'd make no sense to have a train that has travelled through Washington to terminate at South Hylton, then the trains from Sunderland to also terminate at South Hylton. Why would it be called the Washington Metro Loop in all official papers, if it's not a loop? It'd be a pointless level crossing (which NR hate and try to avoid), if it was never going to be used. You'd just build another platform at the other side of the road.

Plus, if the intention was to terminate everything at South Hylton, they'd use the existing curve alignment and terminate at Penshaw instead. It'd be a huge saving, as they they wouldn't need to build a new curve alignment and a couple of mile of track with no station - it may even become the longest section without a station on the system?

Aye no arguments about South Hylton. 

But I personally read it as

3TPH | Airport - Sunderland - Heworth (Terminate)
3TPH | Airport - Sunderland - Heworth - Monkseaton

Why it's like that I don't know but the line from Monkseaton to Heworth on the red line is definitely only 3 TPH (narrow line), well and is says it on the side.

(06 Jun 2025, 5:59 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Aye no arguments about South Hylton. 

But I personally read it as

3TPH | Airport - Sunderland - Heworth (Terminate)
3TPH | Airport - Sunderland - Heworth - Monkseaton

Why it's like that I don't know but the line from Monkseaton to Heworth on the red line is definitely only 3 TPH (narrow line), well and is says it on the side.

Peaks maybe? That doc will have been written before they temporarily removed them from the timetable, but the ambition is still to bring them back. It needs them, especially on a morning.

(06 Jun 2025, 6:22 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]Peaks maybe? That doc will have been written before they temporarily removed them from the timetable, but the ambition is still to bring them back. It needs them, especially on a morning.

God knows to be honest, don't think any of us can really say unless we were part of the study - which I don't think any of us were.

Wonder if they might only have 3 trains running beyond beyond Heworth during the day, with them extended at peaks only giving the full 12 TPH between Monkseaton and Pelaw. Probably more than enough trains having only 3 TPH from Newcastle through the Washington stations during the day really, and would save a few drivers.

Thought i'd provide a list of old units and a list of new units
CLASS 599/994

4001- Stored
4002- Scrapped
4003- Scrapped 
4004- Active
4005- Active
4006- Active
4007- Scrapped 
4008- Active
4009- Active
4010- Scrapped 
4011- Active
4012- Active
4013- Scrapped 
4014- Active
4015- Active
4016- Scrapped 
4017- Active
4018- Scrapped 
4019- Active
4020- Active
4021- Scrapped 
4022- Scrapped
4023- Active
4024- Active
4025- Scrapped 
4026- Active
4027- Active 
4028- Active
4029- Active
4030- Stored 
4031- Scrapped 
4032- Active
4033- Active
4034- Active
4035- Active
4036- Active 
4037- Scrapped
4038- Active
4039- Active
4040- Scrapped 
4041- Active
4042- Active
4043- Active
4044- Active
4045- Active 
4046- Active 
4047- Active
4048- Active
4049- Active
4050- Active
4051- Active
4052- Scrapped
4053- Active
4054- Scrapped 
4055- Scrapped
4056- Active
4057- Scrapped 
4058- Active
4059- Active
4060- Active
4061- Active
4062- Scrapped
4063- Active
4064- Scrapped 
4065- Active
4066- Active
4067- Active
4068- Active
4069- Active
4070- Scrapped
4071- Active
4072- Stored 
4073- Active 
4074- Active
4075- Active
4076- Scrapped
4077- Scrapped
4078- Active
4079- Active
4080- Active
4081- Active
4082- Scrapped 
4083- Scrapped
4084- Scrapped 
4085- Active
4086- Active
4087- Active 
4088- Scrapped
4089- Active
4090- Active
Key
Green= Active
Blue= Stored
Red= Scrapped
Peach= Stored and missing parts

CLASS 555's

555001- Delivered (undergoing testing)
555002- In Service 
555003- In Service 
555004- In Service 
555005- In Service 
555006- In Service 
555007- In Service 
555008- Delivered (undergoing testing)
555009- Delivered (undergoing testing)
555010- Delivered 
555011- Delivered (undergoing testing)
555012- Delivered (undergoing testing)
555013- Delivered (undergoing testing)
555014- Delivered 
555015- In Service 
555016- Delivered 
555017- Pending
555018- Pending
555019- Pending
555020- In Service 
555021- In Service 
555022- Pending
555023- Pending
555024- Pending
555025- Pending 
555026- Pending
555027- In Service 
555028- In Service 
555029- Pending
555030- Pending
555031- Pending
555032- Pending 
555033- Pending
555034- Pending
555035- Delivered 
555036- Pending 
555037- Pending
555038- Pending 
555039- Pending 
555040- Pending 
555041- Pending 
555042- Pending 
555043- Not Built
555044- Not Built
555045- Not Built
555046- Not Built
Key
Purple= In service
Yellow= Delivered (undergoing testing)
Orange= Delivered
Pink= Pending
Teal= Not Built
List Updated: 23/06/2025
If you see any mistakes, or have any updates, please dont hesitate to private message me or quote me directly, and will happily update the list for you
Cheers

It’s great that the number in service has reached double figures. Feels more positive.