North East Buses

(23 Aug 2016, 2:34 pm)GX03 SVC wrote [ -> ]MAX X20 - to run limited stop between Wansbeck Hospital and Newcastle Haymarket bus station, to improve journey times for passengers to/from Northumberland. Calling at the following points only:
Wansbeck Hospital
Ashington Bus Station
Ashington Hirst Welfare Centre
North Seaton Academy
North Seaton Fairfield Drive
Regent Centre Interchange*
Gosforth Brandling Arms*
Newcastle Barras Bridge southbound only*
Newcastle Haymarket Bus Station
*Towards Newcastle, buses call to set down only. Towards Northumberland, buses call to pick up only. This is to reduce idling times when "short hop" fares are issued, when passengers can use another service.

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(23 Aug 2016, 2:34 pm)GX03 SVC wrote [ -> ]MAX X20 - to run limited stop between Wansbeck Hospital and Newcastle Haymarket bus station, to improve journey times for passengers to/from Northumberland. Calling at the following points only:
Wansbeck Hospital
Ashington Bus Station
Ashington Hirst Welfare Centre
North Seaton Academy
North Seaton Fairfield Drive
Regent Centre Interchange*
Gosforth Brandling Arms*
Newcastle Barras Bridge southbound only*
Newcastle Haymarket Bus Station
*Towards Newcastle, buses call to set down only. Towards Northumberland, buses call to pick up only. This is to reduce idling times when "short hop" fares are issued, when passengers can use another service.

(07 Nov 2016, 8:56 pm)Lm2606 wrote [ -> ]You have far too much spare time..

(07 Nov 2016, 8:49 pm)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]A New 46 timetable would be introduced meaning that the PVR would be six because the buses would run through to the General Hospital every 15 minutes Monday-Friday daytime (every 15 minutes Great Park-Haymarket on a Saturday and every 30 minutes Great Park-Haymarket giving Melbury an Evening and Sunday bus. To do this 1772 and 1774 would transfer to Blyth in return for 2801 and 2802. 2801, 2802 and spare 2815 would transfer to Jesmond with 2801 and 2802 gaining 46 branding and WiFi while 2815 would gain generic NHS branding and would be spare for the 46/553. The 51 would also become half-hourly full route (hourly full route on Evenings and Sundays), the 53 timetable would alter to allow West Allotment a bus every 15 minutes. The 553 would be the same Monday-Fridays as it would be on Saturdays with an hourly service full route on Sundays with no short journeys.
Therefore to solve this issue 2801, 2802, 2842, 2844, 2845 and 2847 would be on the 46.
2806, 2824, 2834 and 2840 would be on the 55.
2601 would be on the 6.
2825 and 2846 would be on the 553
1761, 1770, 2870 and 2871 would be on the 51.
2815 and 2848 would be spare.
2870 and 2871 would be on the 18/18A Evenings and Sundays
2601, 2801, 2802 and 2806 would run the 32/32A.


24 New Streetlites would come for Eco Green Killingworth routes 52/53/54 also allowing them to be every 20 minutes. The 52 would also be extended to Blyth via the following route:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Haymar...275974!3e0.
The 54 would additionally serve Northumberland Park Metro and the 53 would follow the 54 route through Cobalt and would be extended to Whitley Bay via the following route:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Bedfor...34f!2m2!1d-
1.4466582!2d55.0083989!3m4!1m2!1d-1.4453022!2d55.0100102!3s0x487e6ef02731c00f:0xc96b0dcddcfe9eab!3m4!1m2!1d-1.4406665!2d55.0124078!3s0x487e6eee8921bfe1:0xcf83e9d8077c5851!3m4!1m2!1d-1.4258045!2d55.0169655!3s0x487e6ec0c23a7bc9:0xc407517b6edf589f!3m4!1m2!1d-1.4209125!2d55.0208806!3s0x487e6eb8589b8997:0xdcce760c9060b492!3m4!1m2!1d-1.43292!2d55.0344169!3s0x487e6e98bcbad129:0x818cde4939483054!3m4!1m2!1d-1.4328899!2d55.0390894!3s0x487e6e9f8e5602f1:0xb41623b955423a3!3m4!1m2!1d-1.4426152!2d55.0434376!3s0x487e6c26fe365b23:0x3f97743f0380a513!3m4!1m2!1d-1.4455017!2d55.0421856!3s0x487e6c27c268510f:0xd7e1914206141e58!1m5!1m1!1s0x487e6c2870e011f5:0xe848fa8b1addbcca!2m2!1d-1.4466353!2d55.0426866!3e0
The timetable diagram would look like this:
09:00 Haymarket
09:14 Freeman Hospital
09:22 Four Lane Ends
09:25 Quorum Business Park
09:29 West Moor
09:33 Killingworth Bus Station
09:39 Burradon
09:44 Dudley
09:48 Southfield Green
09:51 Cramlington Shops
09:54 Cramlington Eastfield Porchester Drive
10:04 Newsham Diamond
10:08 Newsham Farm
10:13 Isabella Community Centre
10:20 Blyth Bus Station

LEAVE BLYTH 10:25
THEN RETURNING NEWCASTLE AT 11:45

11:49 Haymarket
11:58 Gosforth High Street
12:07 Longbenton Boulevard Shops
12:11 Quorum Business Park
12:15 West Moor
12:19 Killingworth Bus Station
12:26 Backworth
12:31 Northumberland Park Metro
12:35 Shiremoor
12:39 Silverlink North
12:43 New York
12:46 North Tyneside Hospital
12:52 Whitley Bay Town Centre

12:56 Whitley Bay Town Centre
13:00 Dove Marine Laboratory
13:05 Blue Reef Aquarium
13:12 Tynemouth Front Street
13:16 North Shields Howard Street
13:18 North Shields Beford Street
13:27 Billy Mill Roundabout
13:33 Silverlink North
13:38 Shiremoor
13:43 West Allotment
13:49 Benton ASDA
13:56 Forest Hall
14:03 Killingworth
14:09 Burradon
14:14 Fern Drive
14:20 Southfield Green
14:23 Cramlington Shops

LEAVE 14:29
ARRIVE BACK AT 15:59

LEAVE 16:05
ARRIVE 17:08

Therefore 4516-4518 would be withdrawn along with 4512. 4519-4521 and 4523 would setup a new route numbered 56, it would run between Newcastle Haymarket and Whitley Bay every 30 minutes via the following route:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Bedfor...426866!3e0 

A timetable would look like this:
09:10 Newcastle Haymarket
09:12 Barras Bridge
09:19 Osborne Road Acorn Road
09:25 DSS Longbenton
09:28 Four Lane Ends
09:34 Benton ASDA
09:37 Holystone
09:41 Northumberland Park Metro
09:46 Earsdon
09:50 Newsteads Drive
09:53 Beaumont Drive
09:57 Waves Leisure Centre
10:02 Whitley Bay Town Centre

DEPART 10:10
ARRIVE BACK 11:02

1480-1483 would be noted later*

28 NEW Streetlites would come for Blyth/Ashington (even split) for the updated 1 and NEW 1A service that would be branded Eco Green Coastliner. The route would start in Alnwick taking the X18 route to Widdrington Station, then the current 1 to Blyth, then the 309 route to Whitley Bay and finally the new 53 route to North Shields Bedford Street (coordinated so a bus every 10 minutes Whitley Bay-North Shields) taking 171 minutes. The 1A would run from Blyth to Linton Colliery
A timetable would look like this:
09:00 Alnwick Bus Station
09:11 Alnmouth Station Curly Lane
09:16 Alnmouth Argyle Street
09:27 Warkworth Market Place
09:34 Amble Fourways
09:41 North Broomhill Sewage Works
09:43 Acklington East End
09:45 HMP Northumberland
09:52 Red Row, Market Place
09:59 Widdrington Station
10:05 Ellington Plough
10:10 Creswell Crows Nest
10:14 Ellington Library
10:20 Lynemouth Resource Centre
10:26 Wansbeck Hospital Main Entrance
10:33 Ashington Bus Station
10:38 Elephant Public House
10:41 Stakeford Half Moon
10:47 Bedlngton Station Clayford Arms
10:54 Cowpen
11:06 Blyth Bus Station
11:16 Seaton Sluice Astley Arms
11:19 Old Hartley, Hartley Square
11:21 Blyth Road
11:22 Whitley Bay Cemetery
11:29 Whitley Bay Town Centre
11:33 Dove Marine Laboratory
11:38  Blue Reef Aquarium
11:45 Tynemouth Front Street
11:49 North Shields Howard Street
11:51 North Shields Bedford Street

The 1A timetable would be:
09:00 Blyth
09:08 Cowpen
09:12 Bebside
09:15 St Cuthberts Church Bedlington East
09:18 Stead Lane Bedlington Station
09:21 Bedlington Station Big MAMAs PIZZA HOUSE
09:25 East Sleekburn
09:31 Worsdell Street South Cambois Turning Circle
09:35 Cambois
09:43 Stakeford Lane
09:47 Guide Post
09:50 Ashington Drive
09:55 North Seaton Road
10:02 Ashington Bus Station
10:06 Alexandra Road St Benedicts Middle School
10:09 North Seaton Post Office
10:17 Newbiggin Creswell Arms
10:20 Woodhorn
10:23 Lynemouth Bridge Road
10:27 Cresswell Golden Sands Holiday Park
10:28 Cresswell Turning Circle
10:32 Ellington Library
10:36 Linton Colliery Turning Circle

2816, 2821, 2831, 1772 and 1774(transferred above) and 1791 would be freed up. 1772 would be used on the 472 and 1774 would become a spare midibus at Jesmond.
1791 would move to Ashington to allow for the new 517 Alnwick Town Service running every 45 minutes on the following route:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Alnmou...933302!3e0

The X21/X22 would be modified so that it runs more frequently at every 15 minutes each with the X22 being extended to Cresswell va the following route;https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Ashington,+Northumberland,+Ashington/Cresswell+Towers+Holiday+Park/@55.2176057,-1.5775348,5299m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m29!4m28!1m20!1m1!1s0x487e0db1c94795f9:0xa437bfed3bbd4191!2m2!1d-1.567872!2d55.183704!3m4!1m2!1d-1.547339!2d55.1853959!3s0x487e0d97b07ed2c1:0xa6eb962452f51a33!3m4!1m2!1d-1.5717107!2d55.2112643!3s0x487e0dd6abf1c259:0x3e96ee471bb7d032!3m4!1m2!1d-1.5273348!2d55.2109865!3s0x487e0dfed80907af:0x5f4c09477c938942!1m5!1m1!1s0x487e0e16c5efb541:0xffe5b824445fb9b!2m2!1d-1.5431734!2d55.2324425!3e0
This would make the PVR 24 with the extra eight buses being 1465, 1466 and 1506-1511 transferred from Darlington, 1424-1428 and 1463 would transfer to Jesmond replacing 7467-7471 and 7473. This would mean that 14 Eco Green Streetlites would come to Darlington for the 1/1B/5/5A/12/19. 
The 43/44/45 branding would be applied to 1424-1428 and 1463 along with 1495-1497 and 1499 and 1500 along with 7484, 7488 and 7490-7494 and 1401 and 1402 which would be freed up later. 1419 would be branded MAX X16 and would allow the X16 to be half-hourly full route with the current short X14 journeys becoming X16

6 Streetlites would come for the 2 which would be extended to Pegswood taking an extra 7 minutes. This would allow for 1401 and 1402 would transfer to be 43/44/45 branded at Jesmond with 1403 being spare at Jesmond. Terefore Jesmond would no longer have ALX400s in its fleet except for spare 7480. 7466 would be withdrawn and 1768 and 1769 would transfer to Ashington to allow the 57/57A to be more frequent.

7 Streetlites including one spare would be branded Sapphire X23 for a new service running every 15 minutes between Newcastle and Ashington via the following route taking 49 minutes which would also allow more buses for Stannington:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Haymar...183704!3e0


NEW X17 service would run between Newcastle and Morpeth Lancaster Park/Newcastle Airport running limited stop between Newcastle Haymarket and Newcastle Airport only calling at Barras Bridge, Cowgate KFC, Kenton Bar Roundabout, Twin Farms for Bank Foot Metro, Woolsington Green Lane, Wheatsheaf Pub for Callerton Parkway Station and Premier Inn, Ponteland Road Newcastle Airport for main Premier Inn and the terminal building. 1481-1483 would be branded MAX for the journey between Haymarket and Newcastle Airport that would run every 15 minutes and the onward journey via Ponteland and Whalton would be hourly using 2816, 2821 and 2831, 1771 would transfer from Blyth for the role of X17 spare. 1480 would be MAX spare for Jesmond covering for the X16 and X17. The X17 route would be the following:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Haymar...172188!3e0.

Thank you for reading

(07 Nov 2016, 9:50 pm)Tom wrote [ -> ]Sorry but I just don't see the point in any of those suggestions and most of the routes don't make sense.

(08 Nov 2016, 3:48 pm)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]How, what is wrong with them?

(08 Nov 2016, 4:10 pm)Tom wrote [ -> ]A lot haha.

First of all I can't see many of them making a profit at all! 

52/53/54 doesn't really need to be every 20 minutes and extended to Blyth considering there is already plenty of buses along this stretch.

Cresswell doesn't need a bus every 15 minutes, I think the 1 serving there is enough. Then I don't think the demand is there for another bus between Alnwick and Widdrington, considering there is already two buses operating along that route, along with more between Alnwick and Amble (albeit not the same route). And you are adding another bus with the new town service from Alnmouth to Alnwick which I can't see many people using either considering there are already plenty buses around the town (15, T01, T02, 472 etc.)

If you are not withdrawing the X20 then again I don't see the point in the X23 (every 15 minutes is ridiculous considering you are having a X21/X22 every 7/8 minutes!!) and does Stannington really need a bus every 15 minutes when few people use the 44 there. And the X17 every 15 minutes between Airport and town is too much as the demand isn't really there I don't think, every 60 minutes maybe at a push. 

Basically they are all duplicating other routes or the frequencies are unrealistic.

(08 Nov 2016, 4:14 pm)NK53 TKT wrote [ -> ]It is to rival the metro

(07 Sep 2017, 12:21 pm)S830OFT wrote [ -> ]There is a few suggestions for North East services.
*New* X13: Newcastle - Newcastle Airport - Ponteland - Shilvington - Morpeth.
This service will create new links between Newcastle Airport and Morpeth and a extra service to Newcastle. The service will operate via the old 79 route from Ponteland, between Newcastle and Newcastle Airport the service will operate limited stop. The service will operate every 2 hours Mon - Sat daytimes using a Optare Solo.

X14: Service Withdrawn - The route is transferred to route X16.

X16: This service will continue to operate hourly, although extended to Thropton to replace service X14. The sunday service will be transferred to service X18.

*New* X19: Cobalt - Northumberland Park - Cramlington - Bedlington - Morpeth. This service will operate one journey each direction Monday to Friday peak times. This service will offer new links from Morpeth and Bedlington to Cobalt, also providing a extra service alongside service 43.

(07 Sep 2017, 1:27 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]Seems pointless to withdraw the X14, as that's always been the one to serve Thropton. Why not cut the X16 and increase the X14 frequency between Morpeth and Newcastle, like it was before the X16s introduction? 

"Sunday service transferred to the X18" - I'm assuming this means the newly introduced 2 hourly X14 Sunday service? The one that gives Morpeth a bus to Newcastle every half an hour?

(07 Sep 2017, 1:27 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]Seems pointless to withdraw the X14, as that's always been the one to serve Thropton. Why not cut the X16 and increase the X14 frequency between Morpeth and Newcastle, like it was before the X16s introduction? 

"Sunday service transferred to the X18" - I'm assuming this means the newly introduced 2 hourly X14 Sunday service? The one that gives Morpeth a bus to Newcastle every half an hour?

(07 Sep 2017, 1:55 pm)S830OFT wrote [ -> ]With some X14 journeys cut previously it would make more sense to take it off and replace it with service X16. It would work if Jesmond operate the New X13 and X19 using 1 bus. Then Ashington to operate service X16 using Max E400s. And yes the recently introduced Sunday service.

(07 Sep 2017, 12:21 pm)S830OFT wrote [ -> ]*New* X19: Cobalt - Northumberland Park - Cramlington - Bedlington - Morpeth. This service will operate one journey each direction Monday to Friday peak times. This service will offer new links from Morpeth and Bedlington to Cobalt, also providing a extra service alongside service 43.