(11 Aug 2025, 3:59 pm)LVK 404L wrote [ -> ]Seems 19437 and 19438 have gonw back to Sunderland. 36962 appears to have gone back to Shieldsz 36964 will prob follow.
I thought Shields were getting the extra 2 deckers for additional scholars runs?
19437 and 19438 are now at Walkergate. Unsure as of why.
Does anybody know the whereabouts of 27242? Not been seen for a month after last appearance in South Shields
(19 Aug 2025, 10:36 pm)Youngymmv wrote [ -> ]Does anybody know the whereabouts of 27242? Not been seen for a month after last appearance in South Shields
still at sheilds depot
73176 is it service yet at Stockton
(20 Aug 2025, 6:21 pm)Glen1974 wrote [ -> ]73176 is it service yet at Stockton
no seen it on the felling bypass heading towards Newcastle
73176 was picked up today by Slatyford - apparently it is the first one for Slatyford.
According to the EM we are due another batch of 5 to replace the 4 ‘Scottish/midlands’ yutongs as well as 27175 which is the last Diesel in the fleet
Just observing the fleet list & have noticed the last two weeks 35222 appears to be the only remaining Dart in service with SNE, albeit restricted to duty's on the 4/8s between 09:41 & 14:11 most days.
Could/is this finally the end of the Darts, given most are now parked at the back of Chichester Depot. Have to say that SNE have certainly had their use out of them, which can't be said for the 397s, which I do believe they were desperate to get rid of at the earliest possible opportunity.
The only buses I can see starting to be disposed from the fleet this year & next would be:
15x MAN E300s (24101 - 24115)
19x Scania E300s (28001 - 15/17-20)
15x Enviro 200s (36081 - 36094) + 36050.
Although I would imagine some of these could be displaced by cascades & PVR reductions should they lose any work etc.
(20 Aug 2025, 7:39 pm)Teessider2014 wrote [ -> ]73176 was picked up today by Slatyford - apparently it is the first one for Slatyford.
According to the EM we are due another batch of 5 to replace the 4 ‘Scottish/midlands’ yutongs as well as 27175 which is the last Diesel in the fleet
Really 73176 is Slatyford’s? I thought we might have been borrowing it for driver training a bit like when Stockton used Sunderland’s 73074 for training.
(21 Aug 2025, 7:09 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote [ -> ]Really 73176 is Slatyford’s? I thought we might have been borrowing it for driver training a bit like when Stockton used Sunderland’s 73074 for training.
All I know is ours where told ‘not to prep it, it’s not ours’
(21 Aug 2025, 7:16 pm)Teessider2014 wrote [ -> ]All I know is ours where told ‘not to prep it, it’s not ours’
Interesting, I wasn’t expecting any of ours to be 25 plate. The majority are going to be 75 plate by the sounds of things. Unsure how many are being delivered to Slatyford if anyone knows?
Sounds like Slatyford are getting the full 18 batch 73176-73195. Be interesting to see how this works with no proper chargers
(21 Aug 2025, 7:16 pm)Teessider2014 wrote [ -> ]All I know is ours where told ‘not to prep it, it’s not ours’
Doesn't explain why it had Cleveland Transit legal lettering when I photographed it on August 6th
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The sign guys who fit the electrical speel on the side of the buses put the legal lettering on this batch of buses inadvertently putting the wrong ones on!
Is 73176 a stagecoach Stockton one or for slatyford depot?
(22 Aug 2025, 6:34 pm)Glen1974 wrote [ -> ]Is 73176 a stagecoach Stockton one or for slatyford depot?
slaty
When is stagecoach Stockton U11dd due is it September?
Considering there was a fare increase only four months ago when service reductions had taken place, I have no doubt this will result in falling patronage for shorter distance trips. Considering the fare cap is £2.50, I dread to think how much would be charged if the fare cap been scrapped, although equally one wonders how much NECA & the state are reimbursing operators per each ticket sold.
Similar with Scottish Borders where under 22s can go free, but when that card runs out it's full fare, with no fare cap so £7 singles for a one hour journey. If operators & local authorities wanted to make Public Transport appealing to everybody, there should be an incentive for everybody to use it, opposed to just tailoring to the needs of the young & elderly, whilst hiking up prices for everybody else to where it's unaffordable for what you are paying for.
There's no magic money tree as some people believe sometimes! What really disappoints me is certain operators promoting they care about connecting communities etc, whilst at the same time removing vital links, hoping to win them back with LA funding. Yes, there's a balance to be struck in the sense of making a business viable, but removing a vital bus opposed to dropping frequency from another can speak volumes, especially to people who know exactly what is being done with their service.
Also isn't it at all strange some routes that were withdrawn commercially in 2022, suddenly became viable once another operator was about to win or regain the contract...
(27 Aug 2025, 10:30 am)S830OFT wrote [ -> ]Considering there was a fare increase only four months ago when service reductions had taken place, I have no doubt this will result in falling patronage for shorter distance trips. Considering the fare cap is £2.50, I dread to think how much would be charged if the fare cap been scrapped, although equally one wonders how much NECA & the state are reimbursing operators per each ticket sold.
Similar with Scottish Borders where under 22s can go free, but when that card runs out it's full fare, with no fare cap so £7 singles for a one hour journey. If operators & local authorities wanted to make Public Transport appealing to everybody, there should be an incentive for everybody to use it, opposed to just tailoring to the needs of the young & elderly, whilst hiking up prices for everybody else to where it's unaffordable for what you are paying for.
There's no magic money tree as some people believe sometimes! What really disappoints me is certain operators promoting they care about connecting communities etc, whilst at the same time removing vital links, hoping to win them back with LA funding. Yes, there's a balance to be struck in the sense of making a business viable, but removing a vital bus opposed to dropping frequency from another can speak volumes, especially to people who know exactly what is being done with their service.
Also isn't it at all strange some routes that were withdrawn commercially in 2022, suddenly became viable once another operator was about to win or regain the contract...
Thats always been the case..... GNE dikd this with my local service when GCT had won the LA contract. They offered to do it commercially and did, and this type of behaviour was back up on here. Dont think it would be now though
The price of the Flexi ticket is absurd.
Apparently 73183 and 73193 have arrived at Stockton. Both YK75 plate. I believe these are for Slatyford but being stored at Stockton for the time being. Slatyford already have 73176 at the depot for the 30/31/36 services with driver training commencing next week. I believe Slatyford’s batch will be 73176-73193.
Has 27166 left stagecoach Stockton depot or sill not been in service for long time that all.
Second fare hike in less than 6 months......
Given the first (ignoring the 1st Jan single fare charges) lift earlier this year was massively over inflation already (around 10% in a number of products), this further hit to the customer suggests that the business is really not doing well, from a financial point of view.
Whilst huge investment is being seen in the region (that for the sake of argument will all be capitalised so won't hit the P&L all at once + any depreciation increase from new vehicles is likely offset by direct cost decrease in fuel and engineering heads), it does add fuel to the fire.
If this second round of fare hikes don't work, expect network cuts early 2026 is my take on things. Certainly doesn't shout confidence.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:50:35:970
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:11:25:838
Well tomorrow the 75 plates can officially go on the road
(31 Aug 2025, 9:06 pm)Superman wrote [ -> ]Second fare hike in less than 6 months......
Given the first (ignoring the 1st Jan single fare charges) lift earlier this year was massively over inflation already (around 10% in a number of products), this further hit to the customer suggests that the business is really not doing well, from a financial point of view.
Whilst huge investment is being seen in the region (that for the sake of argument will all be capitalised so won't hit the P&L all at once + any depreciation increase from new vehicles is likely offset by direct cost decrease in fuel and engineering heads), it does add fuel to the fire.
If this second round of fare hikes don't work, expect network cuts early 2026 is my take on things. Certainly doesn't shout confidence.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:50:35:970
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:11:25:838
I do think Stagecoach selling Hartlepool and South Shields would be the best idea going forward. While I can’t comment much on South Shields it’s quite clear they don’t care much about Hartlepool which is very much run on the bare minimum and has no thought at all other than been used as a scrapyard for withdrawn buses and to send buses from elsewhere that the majority of time are already knackered.
They is nothing really left to cut on the town network as it’s already bad enough as it is with buses constantly late and breaking down. The fare increases are a joke as well as many people are struggling financially as it is so this could see them struggle more. I do wonder if an independent would do a better job, certainly Stagecoach having a monopoly in the majority of the places they operate is not proving to be good for passengers.
(01 Sep 2025, 5:39 pm)col87 wrote [ -> ]I do think Stagecoach selling Hartlepool and South Shields would be the best idea going forward. While I can’t comment much on South Shields it’s quite clear they don’t care much about Hartlepool which is very much run on the bare minimum and has no thought at all other than been used as a scrapyard for withdrawn buses and to send buses from elsewhere that the majority of time are already knackered.
They is nothing really left to cut on the town network as it’s already bad enough as it is with buses constantly late and breaking down. The fare increases are a joke as well as many people are struggling financially as it is so this could see them struggle more. I do wonder if an independent would do a better job, certainly Stagecoach having a monopoly in the majority of the places they operate is not proving to be good for passengers.
Stagecoach are bad in Sunderland too, the 16 is horrendous atm, emails etc is just automated bollocks with the same replies and "Well investigate" - yet never seem to find out why, the service was so bad.
Paying £65 a month now for a pass and they aren't even providing a good service.
(31 Aug 2025, 9:48 pm)V514DFT wrote [ -> ]Well tomorrow the 75 plates can officially go on the road
Think it’s 2-3 weeks before the Yutongs at Slatyford enter service on the 30/31/36 services. Driver training should commence this week
Yeah i know, was commenting more on the fact that the 75 plates couldnt actually go on the road until midnight 1st September
(01 Sep 2025, 6:39 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Stagecoach are bad in Sunderland too, the 16 is horrendous atm, emails etc is just automated bollocks with the same replies and "Well investigate" - yet never seem to find out why, the service was so bad.
Paying £65 a month now for a pass and they aren't even providing a good service.
Slatyford arent much better with the 62/63, there were supposed to be a service changes involving a new route to help out the 62/63, it ended up not happening and instead pissed around with these and the 10/11, 71/72, but yet they happily launched the 49