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(15 Oct 2023, 7:21 pm)Rapidsnap wrote [ -> ]Stagecoach has only operated out of Brenda Road depot since the mid 1990s (Possibly 1996), prior to that they ran from the depot in Lynn Street in Hartlepool. Before that Brenda road was home of United (Tees) and was mainly home to Bristol LHs.

Anyway, when they moved to Brenda Road, the Dennis Falcons, Leyland Lynx and Leyland Nationals had their engines mounted longitudinal under the floor at the rear of the vehicle, hence the seats went to the very rear of the bus and the engine was positioned that it was further down into the vehicle. They were just over 11 metres long rather than the full 12 metres. Buses started going to 12 metres when low floors came in, and operators not wanting to lose seats. The 39xxx MANs are either 10.8m or 11.2m, where as the 22xxx / 24xxx are either 12m or 12.8m.

They have probably tried having the long MANs and ADL Enviro 300s over the pits at Brenda Road and found it difficult to work on them, and I doubt health and safety would allow them to reverse onto the pits either, in fact I think most bus depots I've been to, vehicles tend to be driven forward onto the pits (though it also makes easier to remove the engine from a vehicle when there's nothing behind them).

But all in all, I think they've tried the idea, it didn't work hence no long single deckers at Hartlepool, no point suddenly putting 10 buses at the depot to find they cannot repair them effectively.

It applies in other cases, some depots cannot take Double Deckers, Arriva Stockton for example is one, although they can allocate double deckers to the depot, just just cannot lift them to repair them.

You’re forgetting though Hartlepool also had full size coaches and yes they still ran out of Brenda Road they had coaches up until about 2002 2003.  The depot is already more or less an outstation to Stockton as most of the more major repairs are done by Stockton or Sunderland so in that sense I see no reason why full size buses can not be returned to Hartlepool it seems more of a choice than anything else because they had plenty of time and opportunities to sort the pits out including even building new pits and engineering facilities as the land next to the depot was empty for 20 years before the stag and monkey and Aldi was built on it.  Like you said they is always round it as well.  

As for what you put about Tees they ran plenty of buses from the depot not just LHs but also Leyland Nationals plaxton tigers, Bristol VR as well
(16 Oct 2023, 2:04 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]according to this the £2 fare cap is now till dec 2024, but ive also notice that its not available on the 685 ran by SCNE but is available on the SCNW service 685?  I'm assuming these are the same service or Newcastle to carlike?

What is the source?  Seems to be missing a link.  Jusr looked on Stagecoach website for both Carlisle and Newcastle and £2 on 685 is included but the Service Update page notices are both from several months ago (different dates).
(16 Oct 2023, 3:51 pm)Brampton Trev wrote [ -> ]What is the source?  Seems to be missing a link.  Jusr looked on Stagecoach website for both Carlisle and Newcastle and £2 on 685 is included but the Service Update page notices are both from several months ago (different dates).

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2-bus-fare-cap
The coaches that Hartlepool had were all mid-engined.
(16 Oct 2023, 4:37 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2-bus-fare-cap

Following that link shows the 685 listed under both Stagecoach Cumbria and Stagecoach North East so the £2 fare is valid on both
(16 Oct 2023, 4:37 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2-bus-fare-cap

Interesting that Stagecoach Cumbria appears under North West and North East yet Stagecoach North East only appears under North East when both operate the 685.  And Cumbria services with nothing to do with North East get listed again under North East.
(16 Oct 2023, 6:55 pm)stagecoachfan wrote [ -> ]Following that link shows the 685 listed under both Stagecoach Cumbria and Stagecoach North East so the £2 fare is valid on both

685 under SCNE is under not included

685 under cumbria is accepted. 

Probably just a error
(17 Oct 2023, 9:15 am)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]685 under SCNE is under not included

685 under cumbria is accepted. 

Probably just a error
Likely an accidental omission given there's no mention that the 685 is excluded from the scheme either, probs not helped by the fact Arriva were still running the 685 when the scheme started in January.
(17 Oct 2023, 9:15 am)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]685 under SCNE is under not included

685 under cumbria is accepted. 

Probably just a error

There are some services excluded on the Stagecoach Cumbria site, but 685 is not one of them.

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...exclusions
Cars crashed in to the 20 in Sunderland... looks like its just the doors, panels and front window damaged.

Looks like its 28009, as its stopped tracking.

https://www.facebook.com/SunderlandGloba...564359730/
Hope everyone is ok
28016 was withdrawn so this could be a gonna too
What have the Ex-Manchester E300s replaced at Walkergate? If im right the 14 new MMCs replaced 14 hybrids: 12061-7,70,72-77. According to Bus times the rest of the hybrids are still in service.
(19 Oct 2023, 6:47 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote [ -> ]What have the Ex-Manchester E300s replaced at Walkergate? If im right the 14 new MMCs replaced 14 hybrids: 12061-7,70,72-77. According to Bus times the rest of the hybrids are still in service.

The E400MMC replaced most of the Hybrid but more got withdrawn and these are stands in for the rest of the new batch due next month. There due to move to Sunderland once the E400MMC arrive and replace the rest of the Hybrid
Anyone know what the issue us 19643 at Shields. Been off road since May

Also, are 10631-3 still on course to transfer to Shields for X34?
28009 I'm pretty sure is in for repaint. I think 19643 has had a new engine.
(20 Oct 2023, 8:50 am)ifm001 wrote [ -> ]Anyone know what the issue us 19643 at Shields.  Been off road since May

Also, are 10631-3 still on course to transfer to Shields for X34?

It's due to happen when the new fleet arrives for Walkergate
(20 Oct 2023, 8:50 am)ifm001 wrote [ -> ]Anyone know what the issue us 19643 at Shields. Been off road since May

Also, are 10631-3 still on course to transfer to Shields for X34?


19643 had engine failure whilst operating an X34, which has caused the long term allocation of an E300, usually 27739 atm.


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Are there any buses operating today as bustimes is saying that there aren't any buses tracking today
Yeah the entire wokforce went on an unannounced strike, couldn't possibly be the AVL having a wobble
so could this be for the whole week as it cant be an AVL problem as the Stagecoach has tracking but isn't tracking today plus GNE is tracking today?
Stagecoach are still running today… just a tracking issue I’m on currently on 28033 on the 20 so definitely running
oh ok thx very much for the info
(22 Oct 2023, 8:27 am)BusEnthusiast.com wrote [ -> ]so could this be for the whole week as it cant be an AVL problem as the Stagecoach has tracking but isn't tracking today plus GNE is tracking today?

... GNE use a different system to Stagecoach?
OH ok sorry for the confusion
(22 Oct 2023, 9:43 am)F114TML wrote [ -> ]... GNE use a different system to Stagecoach?

Just been on bustimes and everything seems to be tracking fine for today, so if there was any problem it seems to have been sorted out
Service 20 to be diverted via Stockton Road from Sunday to aid reliability, with ticket acceptance on the 8
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:25:25:511
I seen a photo of 27699 at Sunderland depot.
Ex stagecoach wales.
What depot is 27699 going to?
Newcastle depot or Sunderland I think?