North East Buses

(07 Jun 2024, 7:21 pm)Bus Lad Roy wrote [ -> ]Scrap or repair?

It's in the dead row with some bits missing at the back end

Shame cos when it left it was far and away the best of the lot. Had a lot of work done last year.

(07 Jun 2024, 12:06 am)col87 wrote [ -> ]A lot of the Hartlepool is now either withdrawn or spending quite a bit of time off the road and the buses they are managing to  put out on the road are struggling to last a full day something seriously needs to be done about it but as it stands Hartlepool is unlikely to get brand new buses again unfortunately.

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A lot of the Hartlepool is now either withdrawn or spending quite a bit of time off the road and the buses they are managing to  put out on the road are struggling to last a full day something seriously needs to be done about it but as it stands Hartlepool is unlikely to get brand new buses again unfortunately.

They ideally need to receive some decent cascades from somewhere while waiting for the new electrics, although im not hopeful they will turn up in time or in sufficient numbers

(09 Jun 2024, 11:09 am)toward6931 wrote [ -> ]They ideally need to receive some decent cascades from somewhere while waiting for the new electrics, although im not hopeful they will turn up in time or in sufficient numbers

They needs something doing but Hartlepool is never a priority.

(09 Jun 2024, 11:09 am)toward6931 wrote [ -> ]They ideally need to receive some decent cascades from somewhere while waiting for the new electrics, although im not hopeful they will turn up in time or in sufficient numbers

Wonder if some of the Sunderland buses will end up at Hartlepool by end of the year?

(09 Jun 2024, 12:05 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Wonder if some of the Sunderland buses will end up at Hartlepool by end of the year?

I'm not sure there's going to be anything coming from Sunderland, they need more buses to get rid of the gas buses before they can do that. 

I'm assuming (might be wrong) that the post you quoted was referring to the Slatyford and Stockton electrics which should see enough to displace most the old stuff.

I'd assume the buses will come from South Shields or out the region instead though, remember Hartlepool can't do maintenance on E300's or the E200 MMC's

(09 Jun 2024, 4:42 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]I'm not sure there's going to be anything coming from Sunderland, they need more buses to get rid of the gas buses before they can do that. 

I'm assuming (might be wrong) that the post you quoted was referring to the Slatyford and Stockton electrics which should see enough to displace most the old stuff.

I'd assume the buses will come from South Shields or out the region instead though, remember Hartlepool can't do maintenance on E300's or the E200 MMC's

Think they'll be around 10 gas buses left in service once the electric buses enter service, no doubt, you're right about us getting more 2nd hand crap to replace them though.

(09 Jun 2024, 4:53 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Think they'll be around 10 gas buses left in service once the electric buses enter service, no doubt, you're right about us getting more 2nd hand crap to replace them though.

Yeah thought it was something like that, agreed though. Be interesting to see what replaces them as they really need to go as a matter of urgency really.

Mind I was up near Aberdeen the other week and they had an Enviro 200 and an Enviro 300 on the 35 (Inverness / Elgin to Aberdeen via Banff) which I couldn't think of anything worse, it's bad enough for 20 minutes nevermind hours so seems like the North East isn't the only place struggling.

E200s 37318 has transferred to Sunderland and 37319 has transferred to Hartlepool.

Loan or permanents?

(09 Jun 2024, 4:42 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]I'm not sure there's going to be anything coming from Sunderland, they need more buses to get rid of the gas buses before they can do that. 

I'm assuming (might be wrong) that the post you quoted was referring to the Slatyford and Stockton electrics which should see enough to displace most the old stuff.

I'd assume the buses will come from South Shields or out the region instead though, remember Hartlepool can't do maintenance on E300's or the E200 MMC's

As I said before the plan is some of Stocktons fleet will move to Hartlepool once they get the new electric buses.  How this will work I don’t know but this was from the Stagecoach management themselves who have said this.

(07 Jun 2024, 12:06 am)col87 wrote [ -> ]A lot of the Hartlepool is now either withdrawn or spending quite a bit of time off the road and the buses they are managing to  put out on the road are struggling to last a full day something seriously needs to be done about it but as it stands Hartlepool is unlikely to get brand new buses again unfortunately.

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A lot of the Hartlepool is now either withdrawn or spending quite a bit of time off the road and the buses they are managing to  put out on the road are struggling to last a full day something seriously needs to be done about it but as it stands Hartlepool is unlikely to get brand new buses again unfortunately.

24169 on dead row at Stockton with panels missing.

(07 Jun 2024, 5:19 pm)V514DFT wrote [ -> ]Shame cus MAN produced the ALX300's which were decent workhorses

Completely different chassis and engine though.

(10 Jun 2024, 8:46 pm)F114TML wrote [ -> ]Completely different chassis and engine though.

Same engine used in the 18.220/18.240 and in the 14.220, the MAN D0836

(07 Jun 2024, 6:09 am)LVK 404L wrote [ -> ]39731 back in Sunderland today according to Bustimes

Makes you wonder why it came down. It was only at Stockton for 3 and a half days before it went back.

(13 Jun 2024, 10:14 am)stagecoachfan wrote [ -> ]Makes you wonder why it came down. It was only at Stockton for 3 and a half days before it went back.

Vehicle shortage maybe? 
I've noticed Sunderland and Shields are getting vehicles MOT'd at Stockton now. Anyone know why Sunderland have stopped doing them?

(13 Jun 2024, 3:57 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote [ -> ]Vehicle shortage maybe? 
I've noticed Sunderland and Shields are getting vehicles MOT'd at Stockton now. Anyone know why Sunderland have stopped doing them?

Believe there’s issues with Sunderland’s Testing lane

(13 Jun 2024, 4:24 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Believe there’s issues with Sunderland’s Testing lane

Seems mad to trail down to Stockton rather than use Newcastle facilities, has to be getting on for twice the distance

(13 Jun 2024, 5:01 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Seems mad to trail down to Stockton rather than use Newcastle facilities, has to be getting on for twice the distance

Won't be much in it time wise. Remember you can't go through Newcastle because of the LEZ. Stockton is a bomb down the A19, then a couple minutes down Portrack Lane. Just had a Google search for them as I was curious and it's 36 minutes to Stockton, 31 minutes to Slatyford and 29 minutes to Walkergate without traffic and there's a tunnel fee for Walkergate. 

Travelling across Newcastle is a joke lately aswell.

(11 Jun 2024, 9:09 am)stagecoachfan wrote [ -> ]Same engine used in the 18.220/18.240 and in the 14.220, the MAN D0836

I was on 26293 earlier whilst it was working the 59 to Middlesbrough.   The whole left headlamp was being held in by black gaffa tape.

(13 Jun 2024, 6:09 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Won't be much in it time wise. Remember you can't go through Newcastle because of the LEZ. Stockton is a bomb down the A19, then a couple minutes down Portrack Lane. Just had a Google search for them as I was curious and it's 36 minutes to Stockton, 31 minutes to Slatyford and 29 minutes to Walkergate without traffic and there's a tunnel fee for Walkergate. 

Travelling across Newcastle is a joke lately aswell.

Double the mileage though, which would more than offset the tunnel cost...  Dont think there's any LEZ between Sunderland and Walkergate (must admit I forgot about that for Slatyford) Of course Walkergate on a weekend when the Tunnel is a ball ache would be less sensible.

(15 Jun 2024, 9:14 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Double the mileage though, which would more than offset the tunnel cost...  Dont think there's any LEZ between Sunderland and Walkergate (must admit I forgot about that for Slatyford) Of course Walkergate on a weekend when the Tunnel is a ball ache would be less sensible.

Chances are there are no fees for Stagecoach running through the tunnel either.

The holder of the cross-Tyne Nexus contract gets free tunnel fees for their fleet - a privilege that isn’t often removed even if the contract is lost…


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(15 Jun 2024, 9:18 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]Chances are there are no fees for Stagecoach running through the tunnel either.

The holder of the cross-Tyne Nexus contract gets free tunnel fees for their fleet - a privilege that isn’t often removed even if the contract is lost…


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Interesting, didn't know that.  Don't think I've ever been through the tunnel on a bus but had wondered in the old days of manned ticket booths etc how that worked with PSVs!

(15 Jun 2024, 9:27 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Interesting, didn't know that.  Don't think I've ever been through the tunnel on a bus but had wondered in the old days of manned ticket booths etc how that worked with PSVs!

Nowadays it’s all based on vehicle registrations which are on a whitelist so are exempt from paying fees. Given the frequent movement of buses between depots, I understand entire fleets are exempt (even if they aren’t operating on the cross-Tyne Nexus contract).

When the barriers were there, northbound buses were supposed to use a specific lane, “scan” a tunnel permit box (given to operators of the cross-Tyne contract), and then go through that barrier. From memory it was the second from right lane on northbound journeys (southbound being through the bus lane). I recall a number of occasions where the boxes didn’t work and drivers simply told the tunnel operatives on the radio that they were a Go North East bus on the 9 (or whichever service number it was at that moment in time), and they’d be let through.

Must be a considerable amount of revenue which TT2 are forfeiting from bus operators since the move to the whitelist!


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(15 Jun 2024, 9:14 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote [ -> ]Double the mileage though, which would more than offset the tunnel cost...  Dont think there's any LEZ between Sunderland and Walkergate (must admit I forgot about that for Slatyford) Of course Walkergate on a weekend when the Tunnel is a ball ache would be less sensible.

Yeah that's true about milage mind, can't argue about that.

(19 May 2024, 6:55 am)ReDemPTiion wrote [ -> ]22341’s  MOT expires 14th June 2024 does anyone know if this will get another MOT or will it be withdrawn?

Got a new mot i believe its only temp tho with the leccys due in jan and with the latest rumor stocktons due 3 buses from else where to cover for the buses VOR pending the service reliabilities at the end of this month/next month

Do there need 3 more buses at Stockton depot and are of the some buses off the road than?

yes.... theres about 3/4 buses absolutely buggered

24169-god knows
24121- withdrawn
24122- diff broke
24120- withdrawn due to chassis rot.
and with the service changes ( reliability to services) due to happen in the coming weeks more buses are needed

Thanks for info mate

If they got about 10 extra double deckers at slatyford for the 62/63 services that regularly get allocated singles decks they could kill two birds with one stone by cascading the displaced singles around

(20 Jun 2024, 10:28 am)toward6931 wrote [ -> ]If they got about 10 extra double deckers at slatyford for the 62/63 services that regularly get allocated singles decks they could kill two birds with one stone by cascading the displaced singles around

It would help if Slatyford didn't allocated there decker to absolutely every service. 72 I can understand since it runs of a school 115. But come on. The 10/11/30/31/36 have decekrs on constant for runs that don't need them