North East Buses

27642,27643,27644&27646 apparently in the north east, does anyone know anything about these, like what depot they’re for etc? Cheers

(04 Oct 2024, 2:02 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote [ -> ]27642,27643,27644&27646 apparently in the north east, does anyone know anything about these, like what depot they’re for etc? Cheers

They're at Sunderland, probably for us to replace the open tops.

Tried to make a seperate thread about it but it wont let me so I'll post it here instead.

Queen Victoria Road has finally re-opened both ways to traffic, and I've noticed a random bus stop plonked next to the RVI where the 47 used to go along for Haymarket, and the top St. Thomas' Street stops been removed. Anyone know if this is a mistake or if they're planning to re-route buses this way?

(08 Oct 2024, 12:46 pm)lewisparker1509 wrote [ -> ]Tried to make a seperate thread about it but it wont let me so I'll post it here instead.

Queen Victoria Road has finally re-opened both ways to traffic, and I've noticed a random bus stop plonked next to the RVI where the 47 used to go along for Haymarket, and the top St. Thomas' Street stops been removed. Anyone know if this is a mistake or if they're planning to re-route buses this way?

I can’t see the buses being rerouted as there’s stops at the bottom of St Thomas Street. I know the one at the top of St Thomas Street heading into the city was not in use and they’ve put car parking spaces there but the one at the top of the street leaving the city is now in use.

(08 Oct 2024, 1:53 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote [ -> ]I can’t see the buses being rerouted as there’s stops at the bottom of St Thomas Street. I know the one at the top of St Thomas Street heading into the city was not in use and they’ve put car parking spaces there but the one at the top of the street leaving the city is now in use.

Aye, I can't see them re-routing anything either, which is why I was asking. Just seems very strange they'd just add a random bus stop there which has never been there before, and even more strange that they've placed it on a route that is now withdrawn. As I was writing this another thought popped into head; maybe it's an additional stop for ToonTour next year?

But more than likely, would just be a mistake made by the council 'cause we all know what NCC are like.

Quick question, are the MANviros excluded from running on the 10/11 (South Shields-Jarrow) cus i never see them on there, but see them turn up on other services, just like the Darts

(10 Oct 2024, 1:26 pm)V514DFT wrote [ -> ]Quick question, are the MANviros excluded from running on the 10/11 (South Shields-Jarrow) cus i never see them on there, but see them turn up on other services, just like the Darts

Beleive the section Low Simonside - Hill Park - Jarrow is fully contracted waith Nexus, so pending on Euro emmisions i guess

Want happened to stagecoach Sunderland new buses?

(10 Oct 2024, 6:26 pm)Glen1974 wrote [ -> ]Want happened to stagecoach Sunderland new buses?

Waiting for the rest of the shed to come down snd chargers to be installed.
I see 73061 has had its number applied.

Thanks mate

I noticed at around 1130 today there was an Alpha truck towing a white E200 with Stagecoach fleet names (possibly a Man version) on the A19 North.

Would this be the apprentice training vehicle off for scrap?

22074 getting loaded up, sounds like it's for scrap.

Looks like they've started on the other side of the Sunderland depot.

Had a walk around after work.


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Edit: It has now let me add my photo.

I See Sunderland are now allocating the gas buses to evening boards again. Has anything changed or is it just due to the restrictions currently within in the depot?

Also 19675 has been working out of Sunderland this morning on the 18s https://www.flickr.com/photos/dansnorthe...ed-friend/

(14 Oct 2024, 5:19 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote [ -> ]I See Sunderland are now allocating the gas buses to evening boards again. Has anything changed or is it just due to the restrictions currently within in the depot?

Also 19675 has been working out of Sunderland this morning on the 18s https://www.flickr.com/photos/dansnorthe...ed-friend/

While 27736 is now at Slatyford

27163 in RTC on Acklam Road today I think people are OK

Seen a post earlier saying that 5 of Sunderland's Electric buses are now at Stockton.

Been stored at Stockton until the depot is ready.

Can't find the bloody post now!

ALL BUT CONFIRMED

Slatyford are no longer getting electric buses it is too much of a hassle to get the infrastructure at Slatyford depot being an old depot. Slatyford’s 18 electric buses will now go to Stockton along with the 40 they were already getting.

Slatyford will be keeping the 09 plated 24101-24115 over the 64/65 plate 27’s as the 24’s have a Euro 6 engine and the 27’s are just scraping through the CAZ requirements. Stocktons 262’s will go to Slatyford to replace the 27’s since they’re getting the electrics that were meant for Slatyford.

(16 Oct 2024, 3:36 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote [ -> ]ALL BUT CONFIRMED

Slatyford are no longer getting electric buses it is too much of a hassle to get the infrastructure at Slatyford depot being an old depot. Slatyford’s 18 electric buses will now go to Stockton along with the 40 they were already getting.

Slatyford will be keeping the 09 plated 24101-24115 over the 64/65 plate 27’s as the 24’s have a Euro 6 engine and the 27’s are just scraping through the CAZ requirements. Stocktons 262’s will go to Slatyford to replace the 27’s since they’re getting the electrics that were meant for Slatyford.

Shame... they could of gone to Sunderland with the other 20.

(16 Oct 2024, 3:36 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote [ -> ]ALL BUT CONFIRMED

Slatyford are no longer getting electric buses it is too much of a hassle to get the infrastructure at Slatyford depot being an old depot. Slatyford’s 18 electric buses will now go to Stockton along with the 40 they were already getting.

Slatyford will be keeping the 09 plated 24101-24115 over the 64/65 plate 27’s as the 24’s have a Euro 6 engine and the 27’s are just scraping through the CAZ requirements. Stocktons 262’s will go to Slatyford to replace the 27’s since they’re getting the electrics that were meant for Slatyford.

That’s not how government funding works. They can’t just transfer buses to a completely different area without the express permission of central government. It’s not even in the same mayoral authority!

(16 Oct 2024, 3:36 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote [ -> ]ALL BUT CONFIRMED

Slatyford are no longer getting electric buses it is too much of a hassle to get the infrastructure at Slatyford depot being an old depot. Slatyford’s 18 electric buses will now go to Stockton along with the 40 they were already getting.

Slatyford will be keeping the 09 plated 24101-24115 over the 64/65 plate 27’s as the 24’s have a Euro 6 engine and the 27’s are just scraping through the CAZ requirements. Stocktons 262’s will go to Slatyford to replace the 27’s since they’re getting the electrics that were meant for Slatyford.

Just curious but where is this confirmed? Considering the bid for the buses was for the TNE area, I'm not too sure how on earth they can just go to Stockton.

The government has funded these through a process which says where they'd go, it's not for the bus operator to decide otherwise.

These buses could've went somewhere else in Newcastle (or Sunderland, North Tyneside, South Tyneside, Gateshead, Durham or Northumberland) with another operator if Stagecoach decided they didn't want them. I hope to god that the North East mayoral team block this, especially considering who is in charge of Teesside which would be an own goal, even politically.

Edit: Someone else beat me to it.

(15 Oct 2024, 8:24 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Seen a post earlier saying that 5 of Sunderland's Electric buses are now at Stockton.

Been stored at Stockton until the depot is ready.

Can't find the bloody post now!

I'm standing outside Stockton depot as I type this. A Yutong just arrived and is currently parked in the yard.

EDIT. It just reversed into the shed.

(16 Oct 2024, 4:41 pm)stagecoachfan wrote [ -> ]I'm standing outside Stockton depot as I type this. A Yutong just arrived and is currently parked in the yard.

EDIT. It just reversed into the shed.

Nice catch!

They do look smart, looking forward to seeing them in service.

(16 Oct 2024, 3:43 pm)markydh wrote [ -> ]That’s not how government funding works. They can’t just transfer buses to a completely different area without the express permission of central government. It’s not even in the same mayoral authority!

I know speaking last year to somebody who was clued up on the legalities of the bids, they had told me that there was very strict rules about how the buses could be used for a certain number of years. We were talking Arriva, and they were saying they'd have to ensure that they were run on the services funded for a certain percentage of their time. If that is the case, I don't see how Stagecoach could get away with not just using them on different routes, nevermind in different depots in different counties.

(16 Oct 2024, 5:38 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Nice catch!

They do look smart, looking forward to seeing them in service.

One of those "right place, right time" moments! I just happened to be passing by chance!

NL74FTX by the way!

(16 Oct 2024, 3:46 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Just curious but where is this confirmed? Considering the bid for the buses was for the TNE area, I'm not too sure how on earth they can just go to Stockton.

The government has funded these through a process which says where they'd go, it's not for the bus operator to decide otherwise.

These buses could've went somewhere else in Newcastle (or Sunderland, North Tyneside, South Tyneside, Gateshead, Durham or Northumberland) with another operator if Stagecoach decided they didn't want them. I hope to god that the North East mayoral team block this, especially considering who is in charge of Teesside which would be an own goal, even politically.

Edit: Someone else beat me to it.

I’m a driver at Slatyford speaking to a union rep who said that our order has been cancelled and apparently they’re going to Stockton instead. Something to do with they need to run a big cable from near Kenton school where the electric infrastructure is to Slatyford depot which is a whole thing itself then taking the roof off the depot where they’ve done this before but had complaints from the residents near the depot for the noise so had to put the roof back on. So apparently they’re just going to give them to Stockton and take the 262’s from them.

(16 Oct 2024, 6:34 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote [ -> ]I’m a driver at Slatyford speaking to a union rep who said that our order has been cancelled and apparently they’re going to Stockton instead. Something to do with they need to run a big cable from near Kenton school where the electric infrastructure is to Slatyford depot which is a whole thing itself then taking the roof off the depot where they’ve done this before but had complaints from the residents near the depot for the noise so had to put the roof back on. So apparently they’re just going to give them to Stockton and take the 262’s from them.

Aye that's fair, would make sense from the Slatyford side mind. Be interesting to see if the Stockton side happens though, as I could see big problems with that. Can't see Kim etc being happy that they're losing their electric buses to Houchen.

This is totally sidewards conversation, but is there any reason why the chargers can't be fitted inside the shed? It seems pretty high to the stage it wouldn't be an issue there?

(16 Oct 2024, 7:09 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Aye that's fair, would make sense from the Slatyford side mind. Be interesting to see if the Stockton side happens though, as I could see big problems with that. Can't see Kim etc being happy that they're losing their electric buses to Houchen.

This is totally sidewards conversation, but is there any reason why the chargers can't be fitted inside the shed? It seems pretty high to the stage it wouldn't be an issue there?

Yeah I’m sure she’ll have something to say about it, would have thought it’d be Newcastle that got the majority anyway not Stockton as Newcastle is bigger and busier than Stockton.

I’m sure the plan was to have them fitted in the shed but roof was needing to be removed due to the heat apparently which makes no sense as they’ve got open doors either end of the depot.

(16 Oct 2024, 6:18 pm)stagecoachfan wrote [ -> ]One of those "right place, right time" moments! I just happened to be passing by chance!

NL74FTX by the way!

Cheers, I think that's 6, what's arrived now?


Wonder how long it'll take for them to install all the chargers etc at Sunderland? Last time I walked around, the other section was getting knocked down, haven't been around since then so might have a walk around tomorrow after work.

Does anyone know if there is another 262** at Slatyford? I swear I saw one in engineering at about 10:15 this morning in beachball when 26291 and 26292 were out in service on 685 and 62/63.