North East Buses

(11 Feb 2022, 9:51 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]When is the 22 getting extended to Whitley Bay?

Since when is the 22 getting extended to Whitley Bay?

(11 Feb 2022, 9:45 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]Why is the 8 scrapped? 

The 8 used to be a secured service (don't know whether it still is). It is a relic of an old circular service which operated prior to deregulation before the 7 was diverted away from Scotswood Road and Newcastle to serve the Metrocentre instead. It most likely existed, initially, to provide a service to factory workers at Vickers and various other factories along Scotswood Road, then to provide a service to Newcastle Business Park in later years. Now that most of the factories are closed, and office workers have adopted more flexible working patterns, the service has been probably deemed surplus to requirements.

To be honest, I'm surprised it's lasted for 36 years. It's had a good run.

(11 Feb 2022, 10:07 pm)Thomas12 wrote [ -> ]Since when is the 22 getting extended to Whitley Bay?

I'm not sure exactly since when, but it's been discussed at the depot in recent weeks. Probably not the best idea for timekeeping but a good link which could spell the end of the Coaster 1.

(11 Feb 2022, 10:57 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]I'm not sure exactly since when, but it's been discussed at the depot in recent weeks. Probably not the best idea for timekeeping but a good link which could spell the end of the Coaster 1.

If that happens that seems very odd - especially when they are withdrawing multiple routes.

What website are these changes on from vosa
 Link if possible.

(12 Feb 2022, 12:16 am)lloyd647 wrote [ -> ]What website are these changes on from vosa
 Link if possible.

You've answered your own question. Go to VOSA and put the registration number into the search box and the relevant change will show up.

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(11 Feb 2022, 10:57 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]I'm not sure exactly since when, but it's been discussed at the depot in recent weeks. Probably not the best idea for timekeeping but a good link which could spell the end of the Coaster 1.

Any hints on the 22 routing if this extension was to go ahead? I'm presuming cobalt & silverlink will still be served?

What’s the obsession with extending routes? Surely an extended route just reduces reliability?

(12 Feb 2022, 9:53 am)ASX_Terranova wrote [ -> ]Any hints on the 22 routing if this extension was to go ahead? I'm presuming cobalt & silverlink will still be served?

The route is unchanged Throckley - Wallsend - Cobalt & Silverlink, so I guess it will either be the 309 route or more likely the 306/308 route. No idea where it will serve between Cobalt/Silverlink and Whitley Bay, but I assume Tynemouth will be served as Stagecoach apparently wants to compete with the Coaster 1 (I know competition is supposed to be over, but this is what I've heard).

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(12 Feb 2022, 10:48 am)Bazza wrote [ -> ]What’s the obsession with extending routes?  Surely an extended route just reduces reliability?

Just sharing the information, and I agree entirely (as I said above) it's not a good idea for punctuality and reliability etc, but apparently Stagecoach want to compete with the Coaster 1 even if customers suffer because of it.

(12 Feb 2022, 12:02 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]The route is unchanged Throckley - Wallsend - Cobalt & Silverlink, so I guess it will either be the 309 route or more likely the 306/308 route. No idea where it will serve between Cobalt/Silverlink and Whitley Bay, but I assume Tynemouth will be served as Stagecoach apparently wants to compete with the Coaster 1 (I know competition is supposed to be over, but this is what I've heard).

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Just sharing the information, and I agree entirely (as I said above) it's not a good idea for punctuality and reliability etc, but apparently Stagecoach want to compete with the Coaster 1 even if customers suffer because of it.

The registration effective 27th March has no mention of Whitley Bay though?

Which company will be getting the 18/32/35 during the day?

Is it possible that the 31 will replace the 32/32A in Montagu Estate the only section of it that doesn’t have enough bus. Quite easily done. The 30 could similarly replace the 35 that way neither would be replaced and no links would be lost. I’m sure both these routes have operated over these routes during road works..

(12 Feb 2022, 2:06 pm)lloyd647 wrote [ -> ]Which company will be getting the 18/32/35 during the day?

No one except those involved in the tender knows.

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So thats finally the end of the 71,another one thats ran for years

(13 Feb 2022, 2:12 pm)V514DFT wrote [ -> ]So thats finally the end of the 71,another one thats ran for years

It's only being renumbered and curtailed at Hillheads Estate. Are Stagecoach likely to be operating the new service?

(13 Feb 2022, 2:57 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]It's only being renumbered and curtailed at Hillheads Estate. Are Stagecoach likely to be operating the new service?

I dont know why they just dont leave it alone,why cant it just stay as the 71?

(11 Feb 2022, 4:11 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]All below from the 27th March 2022........ looks like its linked to the NEXUS contract changes:

PB0002404/47
Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3232A (32, 32A) Walker North Kenton

PB0002404/280
Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 35n (35) Red House Farm City Centre

PB0002404/46
Cancellation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 18 Four Lane Ends Walker

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PB0002404/7
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3838A (38, 38A) Whickham View Freeman Hospital

PB0002404/5
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 30 (31, 36) Fenham Fawdon, Montagu Estate or City Centre

PB0002404/8
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3940 (39, 40) Chapel House or Dumpling Hall Wallsend or Walker

PB0002404/39
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 100 (100) Newcastle Metrocentre

PB0002404/12
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X63 (X63) Newcastle City Centre Newcastle City Centre

PB0002404/27
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 678 (6, 7) Freeman Hospital Metrocentre

PB0002404/3
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 12n (12) Two Ball Lonnen Walker - Wallsend

PB0002404/1
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1 (1) Slatyford or Buddle Road Coach Lane Campus

PB0002404/4
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 22 (22, 22X) Cobalt Throckley

PB0002404/40
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 71 (72, 87, 88) Grainger Street Hillheads Estate, Chapel House or Newbiggin Hall

Fairly comprehensive details of these changes are visible in the operators license section on Bustimes:

38/38A: 06:12 journey from Freeman Hospital will run 8 minutes later throughout. 20:10 trip from Quorum will run 6 minutes later between Quorum and Freeman Hospital

30/31/36: Revised Monday to Saturday daytime timetables to improve reliability. Frequency, evening and Sunday timetables unchanged

6/7/8: Service 6 and 7 revised to be hourly each during the daytime (half hourly combined on common sections). Hourly evening service 7 between Metrocentre and Paddy Freeman Park only. 8 withdrawn

71/72/87: Service 71 revised to operate between City Centre and Hillheads Estate only. Service 72 and 87 revised to operate via North West Radial Route rather than Fenham Hall Drive. Frequencies unchanged. Sunday 72 and 87 withdrawn 

100: Reinstated with reduced frequency of up to every 13 minutes M-Sat daytimes, 12 minutes Sunday daytimes and 20/30 on evenings. 

39/40: Uplift of Monday to Saturday daytime frequency back to 12 minutes each (6 combined). 

1: Monday to Saturday daytime will run every 20 minutes to Buddle Road or Slatyford, 10 minutes combined. Coach Lane to Cobalt stretch withdrawn. 

12: Minor changes associated with revision of eastbound route via Stotts Road and Wallsend High Street to Wallsend interchange

X63: Monday to Friday off-peak frequency reduced to every 20 minutes all day. 

22: Minor changes to AM service 22X.

(14 Feb 2022, 11:27 am)peter wrote [ -> ]Fairly comprehensive details of these changes are visible in the operators license section on Bustimes:

38/38A: 06:12 journey from Freeman Hospital will run 8 minutes later throughout. 20:10 trip from Quorum will run 6 minutes later between Quorum and Freeman Hospital

30/31/36: Revised Monday to Saturday daytime timetables to improve reliability. Frequency, evening and Sunday timetables unchanged

6/7/8: Service 6 and 7 revised to be hourly each during the daytime (half hourly combined on common sections). Hourly evening service 7 between Metrocentre and Paddy Freeman Park only. 8 withdrawn

71/72/87/88: Service 71 revised to operate between City Centre and Hillheads Estate only. Service 72 and 87 revised to operate via North West Radial Route rather than Fenham Hall Drive. Frequencies unchanged. Sunday 72 and 87 withdrawn 

100: Reinstated with reduced frequency of up to every 13 minutes M-Sat daytimes, 12 minutes Sunday daytimes and 20/30 on evenings. 

39/40: Uplift of Monday to Saturday daytime frequency back to 12 minutes each (6 combined). 

1: Monday to Saturday daytime will run every 20 minutes to Buddle Road or Slatyford, 10 minutes combined. Coach Lane to Cobalt stretch withdrawn. 

12: Minor changes associated with revision of eastbound route via Stotts Road and Wallsend High Street to Wallsend interchange

X63: Monday to Friday off-peak frequency reduced to every 20 minutes all day. 

22: Minor changes to AM service 22X.

Genuinely surprised at the return of the 100.

Was the Cobalt extension not originally due to funding from Cobalt?  Thought it might have returned to Four Lane Ends rather than terminate at Coach Lane.

(14 Feb 2022, 12:53 pm)Chris 1 wrote [ -> ]Genuinely surprised at the return of the 100.

Was the Cobalt extension not originally due to funding from Cobalt?  Thought it might have returned to Four Lane Ends rather than terminate at Coach Lane.

They'd have to pay Nexus to serve FLE and it doesn't srve any purpose running there.

(14 Feb 2022, 2:20 pm)pbjd wrote [ -> ]They'd have to pay Nexus to serve FLE and it doesn't srve any purpose running there.

In fairness the Metro link was kinda of useful if it was promoted properly to get to Coach Lane Campus. Right now it's impossible to get there without a long walk or a Metro into Newcastle to then get a bus around the back roads of Heaton for 20 minutes or so.

If there was ticketing available (which as usual there isn't) it would be handy for students living in Jesmond who need to get to Coach Lane.

So the 71 is not withdrawn? There will be a 71, 72, 74, 75 and 76?

So will the 12 now go the same way into Wallsend as the 40?,which if it does that means the 12 and 40 will dupe each other from Wellbeck Road

(14 Feb 2022, 5:11 pm)V514DFT wrote [ -> ]So will the 12 now go the same way into Wallsend as the 40?,which if it does that means the 12 and 40 will dupe each other from Wellbeck Road

Yes. The previous routing was a hangover from when it operated via Low Walker.

(14 Feb 2022, 3:42 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]So the 71 is not withdrawn? There will be a 71, 72, 74, 75 and 76?

Nope bustimes.org shows all the stagecoach changes happening

(14 Feb 2022, 7:43 pm)Rapidsnap wrote [ -> ]Yes. The previous routing was a hangover from when it operated via Low Walker.

I think thats a better route anyway tbh,in my lifetime i can only remember it doing its current route

Service changes now live: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:39:39:705

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PVR for the 317 looks to be
Mon - Sat Daytimes - 5
Evening / Sunday - 4

No doubt they be using ADL Enviro 200 Darts.

(04 Mar 2022, 4:04 pm)Rapidsnap wrote [ -> ]PVR for the 317 looks to be
Mon - Sat Daytimes - 5
Evening / Sunday - 4

No doubt they be using ADL Enviro 200 Darts.

What will the other services pvr's be?

Stagecoach putting the 317 into Wallsend Interchange. A change I like

(04 Mar 2022, 4:53 pm)Train8261 wrote [ -> ]Stagecoach putting the 317 into Wallsend Interchange. A change I like

This was the decision of Nexus, not Stagecoach.