(25 Aug 2021, 1:52 pm)Keeiajs wrote [ -> ]I know the 62/62A have been introduced however i don't think it is long until the 62A is changed to the 63 and extended to Durham. As that service has seen the most "uproar". & 265/202/208 were the busiest indiGO services.
265 turned into a 65 with frequency doubled and bigger buses
202 covered by new 62
208 passengers will only have to change once from an hourly frequency to at least double frequency
I live in the east Durham area and I doubt that the 62A will be turned into a 63 and go to Durham, the 208 wasn’t pulling in enough customers to cover costs for an hourly daily service to Durham and can’t compete against Arriva 22/24, service 62 covers most the 202 and a added bonus extended to Sunderland , and don’t forget most of these Peterlee services were originally demmed un profitable by Arriva/United. GNE should be promoting the the connection part between 3 daily buses (55,X1) between Peterlee to Hetton Interchange and transfer to the half hourly service 65 to Durham, have to give Dan a Pat on his back about GNE with these bus changes, only other change I would do was put them in little purples brand and change the 3 digit system into a 2 digit system.
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(25 Aug 2021, 2:39 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]265 turned into a 65 with frequency doubled and bigger buses
202 covered by new 62
208 passengers will only have to change once from an hourly frequency to at least double frequency
I live in the east Durham area and I doubt that the 62A will be turned into a 63 and go to Durham, the 208 wasn’t pulling in enough customers to cover costs for an hourly daily service to Durham and can’t compete against Arriva 22/24, service 62 covers most the 202 and a added bonus extended to Sunderland , and don’t forget most of these Peterlee services were originally demmed un profitable by Arriva/United. GNE should be promoting the the connection part between 3 daily buses (55,X1) between Peterlee to Hetton Interchange and transfer to the half hourly service 65 to Durham, have to give Dan a Pat on his back about GNE with these bus changes, only other change I would do was put them in little purples brand and change the 3 digit system into a 2 digit system.
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I liked the 3 digit system. However now just go to the 60.... And I think the 67/69 should be renumbered 47/48.
(25 Aug 2021, 3:15 pm)Keeiajs wrote [ -> ]And I think the 67/69 should be renumbered 47/48.
47 is taken, though. the 67/69 don't need to be renumbered anyway.
(25 Aug 2021, 3:23 pm)omnicity4659 wrote [ -> ]47 is taken, though. the 67/69 don't need to be renumbered anyway.
I mean if the 201/204/206/209/210 were re-numbered in the 60 digits they would have to.
(25 Aug 2021, 3:30 pm)Keeiajs wrote [ -> ]I mean if the 201/204/206/209/210 were re-numbered in the 60 digits they would have to.
I would change the 55 into a 36, so Gateshead area can use the number 55, and then the 35 and 36 can share most locations on route
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(25 Aug 2021, 3:53 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]I would change the 55 into a 36, so Gateshead area can use the number 55, and then the 35 and 36 can share most locations on route
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I would aswell.
Speaking of renumbering, I'd say the Q3 could be renumbered given that in September there won't be a Q1 or 2 any more.
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I do think renumbering only works when the new number isn’t already taken and is an easy swap. Taking the Peterlee locals into 6x series, would be confusing if you had to renumber the existing Gateshead 67/69, and it comes down to what’s in a number really?
I’d have certainly renumbered the 204 & Q3 in these changes, any random spare number would have done. Simply “3” might have worked for the Q3, but not sure on Arriva and Stagecoach routes around there. Number 18 for instance for the 204.
(26 Aug 2021, 12:06 am)Drifter60 wrote [ -> ]I do think renumbering only works when the new number isn’t already taken and is an easy swap. Taking the Peterlee locals into 6x series, would be confusing if you had to renumber the existing Gateshead 67/69, and it comes down to what’s in a number really?
I’d have certainly renumbered the 204 & Q3 in these changes, any random spare number would have done. Simply “3” might have worked for the Q3, but not sure on Arriva and Stagecoach routes around there. Number 18 for instance for the 204.
Are the 67/69 secured services? , just I’m not round that area.
So who’s doing the 204/204A now? Will it be ran from the 65 at Durham, or is Peterlee doing it as separate?
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Nexus website has started to put the timetable up
(26 Aug 2021, 9:30 am)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]So who’s doing the 204/204A now? Will it be ran from the 65 at Durham, or is Peterlee doing it as separate?
Both look like they are standalone. Could the 204/204A be ran out of Chester instead?
204/204A - 65 the drivers could just switch buses.
(26 Aug 2021, 11:42 am)Keeiajs wrote [ -> ]204/204A - 65 the drivers could just switch buses.
They aren’t in Durham at the same time. Only way to do it would be have the drivers come in on the 65 wait 25 minutes do the 204/204A then wait another 25 minutes for the following 65.
(26 Aug 2021, 12:06 am)Drifter60 wrote [ -> ]I do think renumbering only works when the new number isn’t already taken and is an easy swap. Taking the Peterlee locals into 6x series, would be confusing if you had to renumber the existing Gateshead 67/69, and it comes down to what’s in a number really?
I’d have certainly renumbered the 204 & Q3 in these changes, any random spare number would have done. Simply “3” might have worked for the Q3, but not sure on Arriva and Stagecoach routes around there. Number 18 for instance for the 204.
There is no route 3 for Stagecoach Newcastle or Arriva Northumbria, so the 3 would be suitable.
What are happening to the rest of the 17' Plate Black Cats.
CS will be withdrawn from 4th September
(26 Aug 2021, 3:34 pm)Train8261 wrote [ -> ]CS will be withdrawn from 4th September
Not surprised, SNS should aswell, they get like 5 people a day max maybe.
(26 Aug 2021, 3:45 pm)Keeiajs wrote [ -> ]Not surprised, SNS should aswell, they get like 5 people a day max maybe.
I'm not shocked either, I had an early finish from work today so spotted a SNS and it actually had someone on it!
(26 Aug 2021, 11:41 am)User2613 wrote [ -> ]Both look like they are standalone. Could the 204/204A be ran out of Chester instead?
Wouldn't be surprised if it's Consett over CLS, the Durham Cathedral buses are already ran by them so they must already have a way of getting drivers there, sure it won't be a big issue to have an extra one.
(26 Aug 2021, 3:45 pm)Keeiajs wrote [ -> ]Not surprised, SNS should aswell, they get like 5 people a day max maybe.
Surely the purpose of the service is important in this case, not the passenger numbers?